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Heroes Community > Tournament of Honor > Thread: Mentoring kamikaze tactic on 2m
Thread: Mentoring kamikaze tactic on 2m
infinitus
infinitus


Supreme Hero
posted December 23, 2009 09:12 AM

Mentoring kamikaze tactic on 2m

Yesterday i have really hot game vs Vex on 2m. I was Havez with mentoring, he Hagash. I lost game after 3 final battles... Before last final battle i have mentored warlock level 15 with expert destructive and empowered arrmagedon + last stand. In kamikaze attack i kill 15 kents from 250. Faiz with mass decoy - i kent down ... Are this too match for 1 skill or more wasted on main hero, plus 10000 gold on secondaries ? For example if i invested this skill in defense or diplomacy i get more effect ... If someone have replays of mentoring abuse on 2m, please post here. Maybe i don't know how to use it...    

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Mytical
Mytical


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Undefeatable Hero
Chaos seeking Harmony
posted December 23, 2009 09:15 AM

Mentoring abuse 101, get the mentored hero Swift Mind.  Make sure they have enough creatures to withstand anything like the decay effect.  Then..just NUKE, preferably with empowered spell.
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infinitus
infinitus


Supreme Hero
posted December 23, 2009 09:24 AM

And were are the proofs ? Replay please. From my many games on 2m, i never win a game because mentoring kamikaze. Please notice i talk only about rmg2m ... I don't trust any theory talks, it's empty talk ...

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Elvin
Elvin


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posted December 23, 2009 09:35 AM

Then you are doing it wrong. Not saying mentoring abuse will always win you the game or on any map but if used right and under certain circumstances you can seriously weaken the opponent.
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Towerlord
Towerlord


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posted December 23, 2009 09:46 AM

Have you tried 7 stacks of 2 Magnetic golems + last stand + armagedon + warlock ? I think you would've messed him up really bad with that combo.
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Elvin
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posted December 23, 2009 09:55 AM

Hoho nice, hadn't thought of that.
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Mytical
Mytical


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posted December 23, 2009 10:01 AM

Mine is mostly 'theory', be first to admit..but look at it this way.  Your heroes task is to kill as many as possible before being taken out.  How could Swift Mind NOT be a help there?  And yes, taking something not affected by Decay would always be a good thing, let alone something healed by destructive magic.
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Elvin
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posted December 23, 2009 10:09 AM

Destructive, sorcery and enlight on expert already take 15 levels. Now if you tried swift mind by loading the secondary with all spellpower artifacts and surrender..

Either way I'd be more concerned with which hero class I attempt it, spellpower, how early or late in the game it is and of course opponent lineup. If you can get a dungeon town for stalkers so much the better but there are enough sneaky ways.
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infinitus
infinitus


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posted December 23, 2009 12:11 PM
Edited by infinitus at 12:44, 23 Dec 2009.

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Have you tried 7 stacks of 2 Magnetic golems + last stand + armagedon + warlock ? I think you would've messed him up really bad with that combo.

Need to try... But main hero at level 20-25, full equipped with arts it's hard to damage with secondary mentored hero. From my experiences my mentored heroes get time only for 1 cast...

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Then you are doing it wrong. Not saying mentoring abuse will always win you the game or on any map but if used right and under certain circumstances you can seriously weaken the opponent.

Wrong or not, with help of mentoring, last game i get control over the map, economic domination too - I controlled 6 towns from 8, daily my economy supply me with 11000+ gold vs 4000+ for Vex. Mentoring is good counter for academy vs log factions, let say Haggash with expert log+war path+snatch can take most of arties on map. But if academy have mentored heroes, no logs is not a problem, cos academy can creep with a lot of secondary heroes ... I glad to loose this game cos this show me - economic domination and mentored kamikaze is not guaranty for win game.

P.S. In last game, 3 or 4 doctor shamans blocked totally one cast of Havez level 22 ! Someone seen something like this ?      

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Jinxer
Jinxer


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posted December 23, 2009 03:43 PM

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P.S. In last game, 3 or 4 doctor shamans blocked totally one cast of Havez level 22 ! Someone seen something like this ?      



Kinda... only the opposite.. I have NEVER EVER seen my witch doctors block any spell in any game ever.... No matter if I have 400 or not. Just more random roll of dice from UBI and there silly random dice generator. So the fact that 2 can block doesnt suprise me one bit.
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veco
veco


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who am I?
posted December 23, 2009 05:08 PM

Actually, I'm under the impression that the less gobbos the more chance for blocking the spell
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