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JollyJoker
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posted March 15, 2010 08:00 PM

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EDIT: This is an age old question. We all agree murder is wrong, and murder is when you kill a living human being. So the question is: "When does "life" begin?" Ancient it is! Saying that all living cells is "alive" would mean that killing a tree is murder. Saying that all animalistic cells are "alive" would mean killing a rabit, or even killing bacteria would be murder. Saying that all human, or human to be cells are "alive" would mean that every man propably kills thousands every night, and  women become murderers every month or so.
I guess we can all agree on that at least, right?


No, we can't. I agree with ohforfsake - life or not is an irrelevant question here. The situation we have is that a growing life (who will try and pinpoint the second life begins) is completely dependent on ONE and only ONE person.
It's a bit like one of these cases when someone needs a transplant, but there is only one person that can give it. As far as I know in these cases there is no law forcing that one person to give wwhat the other needs.
So society can't help, te life is yet in the making - so it's that one person's decision, life or not.
While you can see it differently, it's a valid view, which is all what is needed to make it a PERSONAL decision, not a state decision.

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posted March 15, 2010 08:17 PM
Edited by Shares at 20:19, 15 Mar 2010.

That's called passive euthanasia(passive death help). It's when you don't do everything in your power to save some ones life, and isn't considered murder. At least not in the western civilisations. Active death help is a subject of controversy (is pulling the plug on a coma patient murder?). Killing isn't.
As well as the question can be put in two ways. In a morale way, or in a logical way. I should have thought of that earlier.
"When does a human start living?"
"When is a mother no longer in FULL responsability of a "child?"
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Corribus
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posted March 15, 2010 09:31 PM

GUYS: The Abortion thread can be found here..

Geez...
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posted March 15, 2010 11:28 PM

Yeah, that the Earth is round has been known since ancient times.
But I think most people (I did too, they even said so in school) that we found out that during the Middle Ages...
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Celfious
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posted March 15, 2010 11:33 PM

I cant state anything on record here but am permitted to post enough for readers to come to their own various perception(s).

you have this guy

for example


but then there are the voters, who think that voting between less than a handful of candidates who are filtered through and gain the 'trust' of those rich and influential enough to push them down the line


the Americans actually will have a fraction of a whisper when they often times vote D or R

better said democrat republican or pig elephant? Wasnt there a jackass party somewhere in this whole mix?

Right... Well, I guess since a majority sees nothing wrong then by god nothing is wrong.

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DagothGares
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posted March 15, 2010 11:36 PM

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Yeah, that the Earth is round has been known since ancient times.
But I think most people (I did too, they even said so in school) that we found out that during the Middle Ages...
Your second sentence misses a verb.
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Celfious
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posted March 15, 2010 11:37 PM
Edited by Celfious at 23:47, 15 Mar 2010.

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Yeah, that the Earth is round has been known since ancient times.
But I think most people (I did too, they even said so in school) that we found out that during the Middle Ages...


heck i dont know or really bothermyself with the fine tuned facts I just remember vague portions of what was standard education in schools.

I am positive however that many civilizations long ago and less recently within the last 1000 years had various ideas if the world was flat or round. Some civilizations killed those who proposed the earth was not flat. heck, i dont know heres wiki cya
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth




we were told in many of my schools...
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Early modern Europe: Columbus

The common misconception that people before the age of exploration believed that Earth was flat entered the popular imagination after Washington Irving's publication of The Life and Voyages of Christopher Columbus in 1828. This belief is even repeated in some widely read textbooks.
no joke its what many of us were taught growing up

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posted March 16, 2010 12:53 AM
Edited by Xerox at 00:56, 16 Mar 2010.

Dagoth; I write my posts in a very special why. Sometimes I begin with a sentence, then jump down to the bottom of the page and write something else and then jump back to finish my first sentence.
During this post I wrote what I wrote below first then I wrote something else here and edited what I wrote below and then I editet what I originally wrote here and wrote this. Does it make sense now?

But I have always thought it is amusing how many books basically state "zomg EVERYONE thought the world was flat untill X year".

edit: In that Wiki article it states that BBC made an investigation and it stated that some people in modern countries still believe the Earth is flat. xD
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ohforfsake
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posted March 16, 2010 01:09 AM

Well, the world IS flat. Just look at it, does it seem round to you? Also when you see boats on the horizon and you may see the top of the boat first, that is just because the horizon is a curve on the otherwise flat Earth. That is right, the Earth curves some places, you know like hills. Also in space photos the Earth is depicted as a sphere, but don't be fooled, it is fake. I can't prove it, but neither can they prove it is real to a certanity that satisfies me, as I just set it at 100% given all kinds of random bs I can invent as a maybe oppose.

Also if the Earth was round, all the people on the bottom, like William, would be really really angry because their heads were upside down. Oh my god!! Now I actually believe the Earth to be a assymetrical sphere! Thanks Will!
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Elodin
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posted March 16, 2010 01:47 AM

I have replied to the abortion discussion in the abortion thread.


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DagothGares
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posted March 16, 2010 07:32 AM

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Dagoth; I write my posts in a very special why. Sometimes I begin with a sentence, then jump down to the bottom of the page and write something else and then jump back to finish my first sentence.
During this post I wrote what I wrote below first then I wrote something else here and edited what I wrote below and then I editet what I originally wrote here and wrote this. Does it make sense now?
It still misses a verb, though.
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posted March 16, 2010 10:21 AM

Every culture with an ocean close to it and a single brain within it, knew that the earth wasn't flat.
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posted March 16, 2010 10:32 AM

It seems this thread will soon find its way to the Wastelands.
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posted March 16, 2010 10:42 AM

It went very off topic, but most of it's content is quite serious(notice the lack of i in the beginning). The abortion discussion goes on in the abortion thread, so all it needs is a clean up. But it's not my thread, so it's not up to me I guess.
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JollyJoker
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posted March 17, 2010 09:45 AM

Some obvious examples for EXTREME human stupidity:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1141267/Saudi-judge-sentences-pregnant-gang-rape-victim-100-lashes-committing-adultery.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/bangladesh/7073191/Rape-victim-receives-101-lashes-for-becoming-pregnant.html

http://www.christiananswers.net/q-sum/q-life005.html

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Mytical
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posted March 17, 2010 09:58 AM

Hmm, thought JJ saod that since we all do stupid things in life we shouldn't bother bringing up examples of stupidity..must have misunderstood.

Yeah, whichever judge or whatever came up with that is indeed worthy of the Darwin awards.  "Gee, lets punish the victim!  Hyuk, sounds like a good idea to me.
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JollyJoker
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posted March 17, 2010 10:29 AM

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must have misunderstood.
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You did.
What I said was, shaving one's private parts while driving falls into the category doing things you shouldn't do while driving, falling into the category of being careless or reckless, and we are all guilty of that - the difference is, most of the time it just works out, sometimes you just have bad luck.
So I didn't think, those cases of recklessness would deserve being wiped out of the gene pool.

ESPECIALLY when compared with the real cases of human stupidity, the really sorry ones.

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posted March 17, 2010 11:33 AM
Edited by Fauch at 11:58, 17 Mar 2010.

wow, indeed that's some extreme cases of human stupidity. that girl who was shaving herself while driving was VERY intelligent in comparison.

a quite known case here in france is the Plaza family in Gouvieux.

there were 2 children, Emilien and Anne-charlotte, their parents were the kind alcoholic, violent, unable to care about them, so their children were put in an adoption family, the Plazas.

with their new parents they received much love and were happy.

5 years later, during an inspection of their work, it was decided they were giving too much love to the children and they had to let them go because they may grow away from their biological parents (who are still unable to care about children. it seems that their father is currently in prison)

as a result, the children were put in a center for children with no parents and are now very unhappy. the people who love them have no right to visit or talk to them.

the ones who have all the rights are the biological parents, despite their failure at caring about their children.

currently the organism responsible for that decision is the target of the hatred of the whole french population. it is not known yet if they'll finally admit their mistake, it has already lasted for several months without any chance of discussion.

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posted March 17, 2010 12:01 PM

Assuming the articles are true (I don't know if it's just the media that tries to create some kind of emotional porn), then it surprises me that we can accept societies/states that does that stuff to the people it's supposed to protect.

I think the best way to deal with that sort of thing, except for war, which won't be smart, as we probably haven't got the technology to win a war without causalties on any side, is to make us self independent of the products we get from these areas and invite everyone who wishes to come to our countries. Then those who're not allowed, should be attempted to be freed.
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Elodin
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posted March 17, 2010 01:08 PM

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Some obvious examples for EXTREME human stupidity:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1141267/Saudi-judge-sentences-pregnant-gang-rape-victim-100-lashes-committing-adultery.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/bangladesh/7073191/Rape-victim-receives-101-lashes-for-becoming-pregnant.html

http://www.christiananswers.net/q-sum/q-life005.html


Well, I think it is extremely stupid (and evil) to think a pre-born baby should be murdered because his father is a rapist.

I do agree it is stupid to punish a woman for being raped of course.
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