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Moonlith
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posted July 24, 2010 12:57 PM

Wow, someone with actual common sense posted here?

*Sheds away a tear* T-thank you... I needed that...
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OmegaDestroyer
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posted July 24, 2010 06:22 PM
Edited by OmegaDestroyer at 18:22, 24 Jul 2010.

I'd feel a shread of pity for Iran if it contemporized beyond the point of lashing women for showing their hair in public.  Until that day, I will consider it nothing more than a backwater, barbaric nation.
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Moonlith
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posted July 25, 2010 03:04 AM

I'm not sure where a nation which mistreats and exploits the poor and third world countries finds the guts to lecture other nations on bad standards of ethics and morals.

Ah well.
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DagothGares
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posted July 25, 2010 03:54 AM

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I'm not sure where a nation which mistreats and exploits the poor and third world countries finds the guts to lecture other nations on bad standards of ethics and morals.

Ah well.
At the very least individual rights are protected in that nation, so on that point, yes, they actually do have the right to criticise others for that.
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baklava
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posted July 25, 2010 04:11 AM

"Where they'll cut off your ear if they don't like your face,
It's barbaric, but hey, it's home"

A (later edited) song from Disney's Aladdin




Meh. I have no problem with people going "What the **** are you doing?" at Iran after seeing women whipped in public and hands being cut off randomly. What I tend to find confusing is America trying to sanction it to stone age for allegedly having plans to some day build a nuke while they themselves chill with 5000 of those.

I mean, ok, they definitely shouldn't have nukes, but what happened to the 'lead by example' thing? I somehow wouldn't feel comfortable with America exclusively owning nuclear weapons while telling me I need to trust in their democratic higher judgment.

But yeah, it's a psycho social system they've got over there, I hear.
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baklava
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posted July 25, 2010 04:14 AM

Also I nominate Bixie for the post-of-the-thread award.
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blizzardboy
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posted July 25, 2010 04:21 AM
Edited by blizzardboy at 04:24, 25 Jul 2010.

I support Iran getting nukes, but America/Israel (and Saudi Arabia) might not let that happen at all costs for fear of them being handed down to 3rd party proxies, which is a legitimate fear, but the way I see it such dangers are unavoidable and I trust Iran more than Pakistan, and yet Pakistan already has nukes, so whatever...

Iran getting nukes means the US will leave them alone. If your conventional army blows but you have nukes, that's all it takes. A 2nd cold war will issue in peace.
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Binabik
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posted July 25, 2010 04:27 AM

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I'm not sure where a nation which mistreats and exploits the poor and third world countries finds the guts to lecture other nations on bad standards of ethics and morals.

I'm not sure where some smartarse punk kid like you, who has no freaking clue what the hell he's talking about, and does nothing but make idiotic one line rebel rebel comments, without ever presenting a single bit of knowledge, evidence, or even logical argument about the topic, finds the guts to say ANYTHING about ANYTHING in this forum.

Also I nominate Bixie for the post-of-the-thread totally unsupported meaningless comments award.

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Moonlith
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posted July 25, 2010 04:42 AM
Edited by Moonlith at 04:59, 25 Jul 2010.

Got your appendage stepped on much huh?

Nationalistic pride is laughable.


I could argue really, but it's the same as argueing with religious fanatics; it's pointless and a waste of time. I'm more of a 'live and let live' kind of person, in the sense that I fully support your right to be conceited. Just as much as I have the right to mock it.

You're also being used as example #2 which I referred to in my first post, thanks for that!
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Binabik
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posted July 25, 2010 05:02 AM

You CLAIM you could present an argument, but I sure as hell don't recall you ever actually doing it. I seriously doubt if you could, especially since most of the crap you post is total nonsense.

So you post your one-liners with no knowledge, no evidence, and not even a logical argument, and then when someone disagrees with your nonsense all you do is claim that they are nationalistic, or blind sheep or whatever other stupid counters you use to compensate for not having any substance to your claims.

And if you think I'm nationalistic, again you don't know what the hell you're talking about. I'm a borderline anarchist, I hardly think that qualifies as nationalistic.

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baklava
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posted July 25, 2010 05:05 AM
Edited by baklava at 05:06, 25 Jul 2010.

Quote:
I'm not sure where some smartarse punk kid like you, who has no freaking clue what the hell he's talking about, and does nothing but make idiotic one line rebel rebel comments, without ever presenting a single bit of knowledge, evidence, or even logical argument about the topic, finds the guts to say ANYTHING about ANYTHING in this forum.

Also I nominate Bixie for the post-of-the-thread totally unsupported meaningless comments award.

I...
You...
I'm speechless.

These little yet miraculous manifestations of irony are all it takes to convince me there is a higher power. A ****ing awesome higher power, at that.
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Moonlith
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posted July 25, 2010 05:09 AM
Edited by Moonlith at 05:15, 25 Jul 2010.

Quote:
You CLAIM you could present an argument, but I sure as hell don't recall you ever actually doing it. I seriously doubt if you could, especially since most of the crap you post is total nonsense.

So you post your one-liners with no knowledge, no evidence, and not even a logical argument, and then when someone disagrees with your nonsense all you do is claim that they are nationalistic, or blind sheep or whatever other stupid counters you use to compensate for not having any substance to your claims.

And if you think I'm nationalistic, again you don't know what the hell you're talking about. I'm a borderline anarchist, I hardly think that qualifies as nationalistic.


I mostly think you are conceited.

Basicly, summing up your message, your argument comes down to "you're stupid" and "I know more than you". Which pretty much underlines my opinion on you.

And clearly you need a reminder what qualifies as "nonsense" and "lacking logic".... For a guideline, I'll refer you to Elodin's posts.
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Binabik
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posted July 25, 2010 05:22 AM

@ Bak

Irony? Yea, I knew before I posted it that you would bring that up. But maybe if you think you can remember when I have addressed these topics in detail. I don't see any need to repeat it every time I post. The problem with Moonlith (and a few others) is that rebellious one liners are virtually the ONLY thing they post.

I still find it totally hard to believe how many people who have probably never stepped foot into another country think they know so much more about it than people who have lived there for decades. That just totally amazes me how bold that is.


@ Moonlith

You still haven't said anything.

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Moonlith
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posted July 25, 2010 05:28 AM
Edited by Moonlith at 05:36, 25 Jul 2010.

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I could argue really, but it's the same as argueing with religious fanatics; it's pointless and a waste of time.

That's what I said, didn't I?

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I still find it totally hard to believe how many people who have probably never stepped foot into another country think they know so much more about it than people who have lived there for decades. That just totally amazes me how bold that is.

That's funny, since I'm the one (among others) who decides not to judge Iran based on what the general media says about it, unlike SOME people on this forum. *points to example #1*
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GrayFace
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posted July 25, 2010 10:41 AM

Interesting videos.
In theory I would support overthrowing government in countries that treat citizens badly, even when they don't pose any treat to the world. I just don't care about states or nations, only about good people in them. Yet, this will never be the case. Governments are overthrown for economic and political reasons and most usually for no good.

Moonlith, declaring forum members stupid doesn't make you a critical thinker, it does the opposite.

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baklava
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posted July 25, 2010 02:34 PM
Edited by baklava at 14:36, 25 Jul 2010.

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I still find it totally hard to believe how many people who have probably never stepped foot into another country think they know so much more about it than people who have lived there for decades.

You've lived in Iran for decades?

Until you explain what part of what Bixie said is wrong or meaningless, or at least link to a post made ten years ago in which you did that, you're not only not better, but are also infinitely funnier since you're getting frustrated.

Anyway, I could agree with you if it weren't for two factors. One, nations like yours are constantly doing just that to nations like mine; and two, every nation contains dumb people, and dumb people believe what they're told. That's how propaganda works. A lot of people living in Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia had no idea just how crappy that system is. It's understandable that the same happens to the uneducated masses from Iran, North Korea, mid-west USA etc.
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Moonlith
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posted July 25, 2010 07:14 PM

Just to make sure this is pointed out loud and clear, Binabik; he was referring to you in that last sentence.
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baklava
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posted July 25, 2010 09:29 PM

Of all the people I expected to ruin the pun... Damn it Moonlith.
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mvassilev
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posted July 25, 2010 09:57 PM

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A lot of people living in Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia had no idea just how crappy that system is.
No amount of propaganda can disguise the fact that standing in line for bread sucks.
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Geny
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posted July 25, 2010 09:59 PM
Edited by Geny at 21:59, 25 Jul 2010.

It can if it makes you think there are no better option.
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