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Fraudatio
Fraudatio


Famous Hero
posted November 14, 2010 10:17 AM

Me too! I have an agreement with a friend to upgrade out pcs when H6 comes, I hope i get addicted again

Nice seeing some sign of life from you guys!

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infinitus
infinitus


Supreme Hero
posted November 14, 2010 11:44 AM

Let's hope Heroes 6 will be good game for multiplayer, from what i read all look good, except UBI don't care at all of his Heroes 5 game server, many players lost all ranking points because server error, every game on server now end up with server error, no points win or loose from such games... Let's just hope they don't think only about single player aspect of game. If they remove lan network for multiplayer like many games do this days, we all will be doomed to play on laggy UBI server ...  

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natalka
natalka


Supreme Hero
Bad-mannered
posted November 15, 2010 05:17 PM

Infinitus, you think that removing half the resources is good??? It is utter crap - those resources are there from heroes 1.

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infinitus
infinitus


Supreme Hero
posted November 15, 2010 05:26 PM

Quote:
Infinitus, you think that removing half the resources is good??? It is utter crap - those resources are there from heroes 1.

Sound like bad idea at first look, but ho know maybe will be for the better ... What i like no more random skills and spells. This compensate big time missing resources

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nevermind
nevermind


Famous Hero
posted November 15, 2010 05:56 PM
Edited by nevermind at 17:57, 15 Nov 2010.

Quote:
Infinitus, you think that removing half the resources is good??? It is utter crap - those resources are there from heroes 1.



Actually thats a very bad idea but fortunately thats the only bad idea in the game so far i think- they put in some very good ideas too so i hope overall the game will be awesome and the effect of the very very stupid idea of reducing to 4 resources will be less felt overall in the game.

Also i'm still hoping that they will change the 4 resources decision because of community pressure - i hear alot of people thinking that is the worst decision up to now.  

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SwampLord
SwampLord


Supreme Hero
Lord of the Swamp
posted November 15, 2010 06:24 PM

Hmmm, I think I may actually try and get into competitive Heroes with VI; I have the time now and it seems like it'd be a lot of fun.

I do agree that the 4 resources thing could end quite poorly, but who knows, maybe it'll work out. Best thing to do would probably be to start a thread on the official forums if you really want to call for a reversal.
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Clay_Man
Clay_Man


Known Hero
TOH gamer
posted November 15, 2010 06:41 PM

I might be back too

Btw, there were never really a town where you needed more than 2 type of rare resource apart from guilds and some unique buildings, so that's not that much of a big deal IMO.

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SwampLord
SwampLord


Supreme Hero
Lord of the Swamp
posted November 15, 2010 10:36 PM

Quote:
I might be back too

Btw, there were never really a town where you needed more than 2 type of rare resource apart from guilds and some unique buildings, so that's not that much of a big deal IMO.


I'm more concerned with the effect on town variety rather than the effect within the town itself, but it really isn't a huge detail, as you said.

I also do like that you can grab all the mines in an area by holding a certain point, that should help to prevent town camping and such.
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Fraudatio
Fraudatio


Famous Hero
posted November 16, 2010 06:28 PM

Obviously many disagree this, but what conserns me the most is the elimination of randomness when it comes to skills. To me the Skillwheel was maybe the most facinating factor of H5, and to get a preset tree like in WoW etc. sounds terrible to me, as i have to be my own "randomist".

Its back to the old randomness vs whatever discussion i guess, but well. This is a great consern for me when it comes to my own future addictiveness.

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the_teacher
the_teacher


Supreme Hero
Talk to the hand!
posted November 17, 2010 08:14 PM

The most atractive game is the roulette, and this represents the essence of randomness.
If they plan to take it out, will not be heroes anymore. We have chess already, honestly don't need another one.

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SwampLord
SwampLord


Supreme Hero
Lord of the Swamp
posted November 17, 2010 08:22 PM
Edited by SwampLord at 20:25, 17 Nov 2010.

In my opinion, they need to cut back on the randomness in some elements but leave it in others.

For example, the Sylvan racial ability is the perfect example of this; it can swing a battle dramatically due to massive critting but is totally random and luck-based, thus making it very frustrating both for the user when it fails and for the enemy when it succeeds repeatedly.

I'm personally fine with the "directed randomness" that III had for skills as a bare minimum; they can make it more directed, but I don't think you should be able to outright pick your hero skills as people will go for the 2-3 best every time. Semi-random skills forces you to adapt your strategy while still offering you some say in the matter.

I also don't like no random spells; again, I feel that people will simply pick the best spells every time. Imagine HoMM III if you were guaranteed access to DD, Town Portal, and Fly; no other spells would ever be used because everyone would pick those 3 100% of the time.

To sum up, random elements are good and useful when they encourage diverse gameplay and prevent overpowered abilities or combos from being consistently abused. They are not good when they constitute an entire mechanic and replace strategy altogether.
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infinitus
infinitus


Supreme Hero
posted November 18, 2010 09:00 AM

Paradox is, all of you ho love randomness of Heroes 5 don't play this game anymore, i don't like randomness but still active

Quote:
The most atractive game is the roulette, and this represents the essence of randomness.

I don't like roulette, but sure nice filing then - " thanks god you finally give me resurrection spell after i build 3 magic guild to get it" I prefer to take it by myself not by chance ...

Quote:
I also don't like no random spells; again, I feel that people will simply pick the best spells every time.

Question of balance, if game is balanced no best spell anymore, all equal, same to skill ... Only mater of taste and freedom to choose.

And from practice some facts. Vex leave Heroes 5 because of luck, morale randomness. Camoes leave because of randomness. And this from after game comments :
- i lost because i get all the bad runes
- i lost because i not get frenzy
- i lost because i not get medic tent in time
- i lost because i not get log with good chances to get.

And this list can be continued to infinite, just read game reports from any tourney ... I glad developer of Heroes 6 want to put more strategy in this game, hope in Heroes 6 will be less loose games because of chance factor.

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DIEGIS
DIEGIS


Supreme Hero
power of Zamolxis
posted November 18, 2010 11:02 AM
Edited by DIEGIS at 11:03, 18 Nov 2010.

 I lost of reasons above and others, many time; I even made a statistic form to see lucky factor. But, as you see I am still playing.

 Nothing copares with a fresh new game in homm5, if ure playing for fun (Ive had games with 0 chances to win-but 100% chances to learn/understand some facts etc)-Thats homm5, again and its a good game.

 Now hopping 6 will be with all resourses and a nice view inside castle, excepting this all seems promising
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morgan_le_fey
morgan_le_fey


Famous Hero
posted November 22, 2010 08:10 AM

desinging anything by democracy is the fairest and most inefficient way to do the job.

le fey
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ctpahhuk
ctpahhuk


Adventuring Hero
krs.83@mail.ru
posted November 26, 2010 09:26 PM

New guys making h6. It will be not good game

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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
What if Elvin was female?
posted November 26, 2010 10:11 PM

Obligatory close-minded post
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rychenroller
rychenroller


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted November 28, 2010 12:47 AM

you never know who might come back
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vesuvius
vesuvius

Hero of Order
Honor Above all Else
posted December 02, 2010 07:33 PM

no doubt, there will be a lot of imbalance issues in multi learned over the first few months of the release, but that is how things are on any new game.  It also makes discovering all the tricks and strategies fun for the first 6 months.  Whatever the case, I'll be back to playing TOH hardcore for rankings.
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sxshopper
sxshopper


Known Hero
posted December 15, 2010 07:13 PM

I'll be back too! I hope they will make simultaneous turns....pity that there are only 5 factions IN ...and today's news..the 4th is stronghold...what a bullsnow!


anyway still can't wait for heroes 6, see u in the game in march

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rethwen
rethwen


Adventuring Hero
posted January 05, 2011 04:08 AM

Heya Guys,

Keep me in the loop on this heroes VI.  If Ves is going to play then I will play too--I love his clan choices for us.  

Rethwen the Eternal Batty
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