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Jiriki9

    
      
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posted February 21, 2011 04:01 AM |
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ok. 45. ACs...much work ahead 
First I'll propose some older classes which, I think, should definitely be in (skill-prereqs in brackets):
NOTE: You find what the skills do on p.1
Barbarian (Battle, Offense & Rush)
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Barbarian (Battle, Offense & Anti-Magic)
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Barbarian (Battle, Offense & Art of War)
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Barbarian (Battle, Rush & Anti-Magic)
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Barbarian (Battle, Rush & Art of War)
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Barbarian (Battle, Anti-Magic & Art of War)
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Barbarian (Offense, Rush & Anti-Magic)
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Barbarian (Offense, Rush & Art of War)
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Barbarian (Offense, Anti-Magic & Art of War)
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posted February 21, 2011 04:22 AM |
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posted February 21, 2011 04:31 AM |
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Another old Buddy:
Ranger (Battle Lore, Scouting & Wood Magic)
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Ranger (Battle Lore, Scouting & Art of War)
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Ranger (Battle Lore, Scouting & Defense)
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Ranger (Battle Lore, Wood Magic & Art of War)
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Ranger (Battle Lore, Wood Magic & Defense)
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Ranger (Battle Lore, Art of War & Defense)
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Ranger (Scouting, Wood Magic & Art of War)
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Ranger (Scouting, Wood Magic & Defense)
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Ranger (Scouting, Art of War & Defense)
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Ranger (Wood Magic, Art of War & Defense)
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posted February 21, 2011 05:01 AM |
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Battle Lore, Scouting & Wood Magic
PS: Who decided we need to have all those crap Heroes 3 skills back in game as proper skill?
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posted February 21, 2011 05:16 AM |
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Edited by Jiriki9 at 07:31, 21 Feb 2011.
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quote: PS: Who decided we need to have all those crap Heroes 3 skills back in game as proper skill?
^^different people I think^^ those who said YES when I asked also, whsoe skills do you think are crap?^^
Now for the good ol'
Knight (Leadership, Defense & Nobility)
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Knight (Leadership, Defense & Estates)
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Knight (Leadership, Defense & Light Magic)
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Knight (Leadership, Defense & Offense)
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Knight (Leadership, Nobility & Light Magic)
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Knight (Leadership, Nobility & Offense)
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Knight (Leadership, Estates & Light Magic)
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Knight (Leadership, Estates & Offense)
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KNight (Leadership, Light Magic & Offense)
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Knight (Defense, Noblity & Light Magic)
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Knight (Defense, Nobility & Offense)
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Knight (Defense, Estates & Light Magic)
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Knight (Defense, Estates & Offense)
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Knight (Defense, Light Magic & Offense)
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Knight (Nobility, Light Magic & Offense)
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Knight (Estates, light Magic & Offense)
EDIT: Since i be off soon, a cascade for you...
For these advanced classes, jsut say, shall they be in or not and, if there is no skill in brackets given and you wish, choose one main skill (of those we allready have) for them (the other two will be determined later)
2. Lord (Nobility &Estates)
3. Sorceror
4. Witch/er
5. Dragon Hunter
6. Elementalist (3 elemental magic skills)
7. Grey Mage/Greymantle/Watchman (Light&Dark magic)
8. Conqueror
9. Explorer
10. Seer
11. Prophet
12. Summoner
13. Demonologist
14. Archmage (elemental magic skill + the mana-cost reducing skill+darkORlight magic)
15. Mage Slayer
16. Demon Hunter
17. Assassin
18. Thief
19. Magelord
20. Guild Master
21. Supplyer
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posted February 21, 2011 07:37 AM |
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Knight (Leadership, Defense & Offense)
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posted February 21, 2011 07:40 AM |
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2. Lord (Nobility &Estates)
YES! 
quote: lso, whsoe skills do you think are crap?
Scouting, Navigation, Estates, etc. - these skills were much better suited as perks than skills. Why not bring in Eagle Eye also?
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posted February 21, 2011 02:20 PM |
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quote: Scouting, Navigation, Estates, etc. - these skills were much better suited as perks than skills. Why not bring in Eagle Eye also? 
Because it's technically a racial 
Proceeding to
Sorceror
Yes or No?
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posted February 21, 2011 09:04 PM |
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Yes
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posted February 21, 2011 09:16 PM |
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Edited by Jiriki9 at 14:35, 22 Feb 2011.
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Okay. Activity has become zero. and that very coinceding with us coming to the advanced classes. so I ask how I should go on with them?
Only give advanced classes like I gave knight, barbarian, ranger: with proposals for their complete skill prerequesites
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Ask for groups of 5 ACs each if they shall be in
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Just decide myself which Advanced classes are in (since they have to be so many) and just let you decide the skills needed for them
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Give a skill triplet and ask you which advanced class should have that as prerequesites (with option: "Don't have that triplet in!"
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Continue as I started
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Let ACs rest for now and do something different first.
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posted February 22, 2011 02:44 PM |
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Just decide myself which Advanced classes are in (since they have to be so many) and just let you decide the skills needed for them
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posted February 22, 2011 03:36 PM |
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Okay^^
So, hereby I give a summary of the Advanced classes I wish in, including those you have decided previously:
Advanced Classes:
Note: they are in blocks of 5 side by side to better read them.
For those who allready have some or all skills determined, those are given.
Alchemist, Aquamancer, Arbomancer, Archmage, Assassin
Barbarian (Battle, Offence, Antimagic), Beastmaster/Beastlord, Captain/Admiral/Sailor, Conqueror, Dark Knight
Demon Hunter, Demonologist, Dragon Hunter, Elementalist, Explorer
Ferromancer, Field Marshal, Forgemaster, Geomancer, Greycloak
Guild Master, Heretic, Illusionist, Inquisitor, Knight (Leadership, Defense & Offense)
Lich, Lord (Nobility, Estates & ?), Magelord, Merchant, Overlord
Prophet, Protector, Pyromancer, Ranger (Battle Lore, Scouting & Wood Magic), Rebel
Reaver, Sage, Seer, Siege Master/Siege Engineer, Slayer
Sorceror, Summoner, Thief, Tyrant/Oppressor, Witch
Now, before coming to skill prereqs, a different question:
I suggest each Advanced class gives a special bonus or ability (Else the whole thing makes not much sense). Shall that be
Growing effect with the hero level
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Growing effect with the level of the needed skills
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be static, you get them when you get the class, and it does not change
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posted February 22, 2011 09:21 PM |
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Growing with hero level
(I also say: low increase, since so many other things already grow with hero level)
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posted February 23, 2011 02:36 AM |
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ok 
now, before we come to the classes, the mana-cost-reducing skills needs a name still.
Mysticism
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Sorcery
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Wizardry
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posted February 23, 2011 03:02 AM |
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posted February 23, 2011 03:41 AM |
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Now for de alchemist-prereqs:
Metal Magic, Sorcery & Earth Magic
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Metal Magic, Sorcery & Enlightenment
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Metal Magic, Sorcery & Anti-Magic
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Meral Magic, Earth Magic & Enlighenment
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Metal Magic, Earth Magig & Anti-MAgic
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Metal MAgic, Enlightenment & Anti-Magic
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Sorcery, Earth Magic & Enlightenment
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Sorcery, Earth Magic & Anti-Magic
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Sorcery, Enlightenment & Anti-Magic
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Earth Magic, Enlighenment & Anti-Magic
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posted February 23, 2011 04:08 AM |
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Metal Magic, Enlightenment & Anti-Magic
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posted February 23, 2011 04:15 AM |
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And for Aquamancer?
Water Magic, Sorcery & Battle
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Water Magic, Sorcery & Rush
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Water Magic, Sorcery & Defense
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Water Magic, Sorcery & Navigation
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Water Magic, Battle & RUsh
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Water Magic, Battle & Defense
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Water Magic, Battle& Navigation
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Water Magic, Rush & Defense
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Water Magic, Rush & Navigation
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Water Magic, Defense & Navigation
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posted February 23, 2011 04:44 AM |
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posted February 23, 2011 04:59 AM |
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Edited by Jiriki9 at 05:42, 23 Feb 2011.
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Since I'm off and don't know if I will be on today, again, a Cascade.
1. Arbomancer
Wood Magic, Defense & Art of War
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Wood Magic, Defense & Logistics
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Wood Magic, Defense & Estates
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Wood Magic, Art of War & Logistics
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Wood MAgic, Art of War & Estates
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Wood Magic, Logistics & Estates
2. Archmage
One Elemental Magic Skill, Light or Dark Magic & Sorcery
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Two Elemental Magic Skill & Light or Dark Magic
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3 Magic Skills, no matter which
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3 magic Skills, dark and/or light magic must be among them
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2 magic Skills, no matter which, and sorcery
3. Assassin
Dark Magic, Battle & Scouting
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Dark Magic, Battle & Rush
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Dark Magic, Battle & Art of War
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Dark Magic, Battle & Battle Lore
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Dark Magic, Scouting & Rush
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Dark Magic, Scouting & Art of War
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Dark MAgic, Scouting & Battle Lore
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Dark Magic, Rush & art of War
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Dark Magic, Rush & Battle Lore
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Dark Magic, Art of War & Battle Lore
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Battle, Scouting & Rush
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Battle, Scouting & Art of War
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Battle, Scouting & BAttle Lore
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Battle, Rush & Art of War
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Battle, Rush & Battle Lore
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Battle, Art of War & Battle Lore
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Scouting, Art of War & Battle Lore
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RUsh, Art of War & Battle Lore
4. Beastmaster/BEastlord
Wood Magic, Leadership & Diplomacy
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Wood Magic, Leadership & Battle
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Wood Magic, Leadership & Nobility
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Wood Magic, Diplomacy & Battle
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Wood Magic, Diplomacy & Nobility
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Wood Magic, Battle & Nobility
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Leadership, Diplomacy & Battle
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Leadership, Diplomacy & Nobility
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Leadership, Battle & Nobility
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Diplomacy, Battle & Nobility
5. Captain/Admiral/Sailor
Navigation, Scouting, Leadership
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Navigation, Scouting, War Machines
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Navigation, Scouting, Diplomacy
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Navigation, Scouting, Nobility
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Navigation, Scouting, Estates
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Navigation, Leadership & War Machines
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Navigation, Leadership & diplomacy
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Navigation, Leadership & Nobility
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Navigation, Leadership & Estates
6. Conqueror
Offense, War Machines & Logistics
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Offense, War Machines & Estates
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Offense, War Machines & Fire Magic
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Offense, War Machines & Rush
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Offense, Logistics & Fire Magic
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Offense, Logistics & Rush
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Offense, Fire Magic & Rush
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War MAchines, Logistics & Estates
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War Machines, Logistics & Fire Magic
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War Machines, Logistics & Rush
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War Machines, Estates & Fire Magic
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War MAchines, Estates & Rush
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War Machines, Fire MAgic & RUsh
7. Dark Knight
Leadership, Dark Magic & Offense
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Leadership, Dark MAgic & Defense
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Leadership, Dark MAgic & Nobility
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Leadership, Dark Magic & Battle
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Dark Magic, Offense & Defense
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Dark Magic, Offense & Nobility
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Dark Magic, Offense & BAttle
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Dark MAgic, Defense & BAttle
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Dark Magic, Nobility & Battle
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