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Thread: A creational game [masterpost on page 224] [ This thread is 419 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 (36) 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 ]
Jiriki9
Jiriki9


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posted February 21, 2011 09:01 AM

ok. 45. ACs...much work ahead

First I'll propose some older classes which, I think, should definitely be in (skill-prereqs in brackets):

NOTE: You find what the skills do on p.1

Barbarian (Battle, Offense & Rush)
OR
Barbarian (Battle, Offense & Anti-Magic)
OR
Barbarian (Battle, Offense & Art of War)
OR
Barbarian (Battle, Rush & Anti-Magic)
OR
Barbarian (Battle, Rush & Art of War)
OR
Barbarian (Battle, Anti-Magic & Art of War)
OR
Barbarian (Offense, Rush & Anti-Magic)
OR
Barbarian (Offense, Rush & Art of War)
OR
Barbarian (Offense, Anti-Magic & Art of War)
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alcibiades
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posted February 21, 2011 09:22 AM

Battle, Offence, Antimagic.
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Jiriki9
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posted February 21, 2011 09:31 AM



Another old Buddy:

Ranger (Battle Lore, Scouting & Wood Magic)
OR
Ranger (Battle Lore, Scouting & Art of War)
OR
Ranger (Battle Lore, Scouting & Defense)
OR
Ranger (Battle Lore, Wood Magic & Art of War)
OR
Ranger (Battle Lore, Wood Magic & Defense)
OR
Ranger (Battle Lore, Art of War & Defense)
OR
Ranger (Scouting, Wood Magic & Art of War)
OR
Ranger (Scouting, Wood Magic & Defense)
OR
Ranger (Scouting, Art of War & Defense)
OR
Ranger (Wood Magic, Art of War & Defense)
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alcibiades
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posted February 21, 2011 10:01 AM

Battle Lore, Scouting & Wood Magic


PS: Who decided we need to have all those crap Heroes 3 skills back in game as proper skill?
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Jiriki9
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posted February 21, 2011 10:16 AM
Edited by Jiriki9 at 12:31, 21 Feb 2011.

Quote:
PS: Who decided we need to have all those crap Heroes 3 skills back in game as proper skill?


^^different people I think^^ those who said YES when I asked also, whsoe skills do you think are crap?^^

Now for the good ol'

Knight (Leadership, Defense & Nobility)
OR
Knight (Leadership, Defense & Estates)
OR
Knight (Leadership, Defense & Light Magic)
OR
Knight (Leadership, Defense & Offense)
OR
Knight (Leadership, Nobility & Light Magic)
OR
Knight (Leadership, Nobility & Offense)
OR
Knight (Leadership, Estates & Light Magic)
OR
Knight (Leadership, Estates & Offense)
OR
KNight (Leadership, Light Magic & Offense)
OR
Knight (Defense, Noblity & Light Magic)
OR
Knight (Defense, Nobility & Offense)
OR
Knight (Defense, Estates & Light Magic)
OR
Knight (Defense, Estates & Offense)
OR
Knight (Defense, Light Magic & Offense)
OR
Knight (Nobility, Light Magic & Offense)
OR
Knight (Estates, light Magic & Offense)

EDIT: Since i be off soon, a cascade for you...

For these advanced classes, jsut say, shall they be in or not and, if there is no skill in brackets given and you wish, choose one main skill (of those we allready have) for them (the other two will be determined later)

2. Lord (Nobility &Estates)
3. Sorceror
4. Witch/er
5. Dragon Hunter
6. Elementalist (3 elemental magic skills)
7. Grey Mage/Greymantle/Watchman (Light&Dark magic)
8. Conqueror
9. Explorer
10. Seer
11. Prophet
12. Summoner
13. Demonologist
14. Archmage (elemental magic skill + the mana-cost reducing skill+darkORlight magic)
15. Mage Slayer
16. Demon Hunter
17. Assassin
18. Thief
19. Magelord
20. Guild Master
21. Supplyer
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Hungarest
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posted February 21, 2011 12:37 PM

Knight (Leadership, Defense & Offense)

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alcibiades
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posted February 21, 2011 12:40 PM
Edited by alcibiades at 12:42, 21 Feb 2011.

2. Lord (Nobility &Estates)

YES!

Quote:
lso, whsoe skills do you think are crap?

Scouting, Navigation, Estates, etc. - these skills were much better suited as perks than skills. Why not bring in Eagle Eye also?
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Jiriki9
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posted February 21, 2011 07:20 PM

Quote:
Scouting, Navigation, Estates, etc. - these skills were much better suited as perks than skills. Why not bring in Eagle Eye also?


Because it's technically a racial

Proceeding to

Sorceror
Yes or No?
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kraken
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posted February 22, 2011 02:04 AM

Yes
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posted February 22, 2011 02:16 AM
Edited by Jiriki9 at 19:35, 22 Feb 2011.

Okay. Activity has become zero. and that very coinceding with us coming to the advanced classes. so I ask how I should go on with them?

Only give advanced classes like I gave knight, barbarian, ranger: with proposals for their complete skill prerequesites
OR
Ask for groups of 5 ACs each if they shall be in
OR
Just decide myself which Advanced classes are in (since they have to be so many) and just let you decide the skills needed for them
OR
Give a skill triplet and ask you which advanced class should have that as prerequesites (with option: "Don't have that triplet in!"
OR
Continue as I started
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Let ACs rest for now and do something different first.
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posted February 22, 2011 07:44 PM

Just decide myself which Advanced classes are in (since they have to be so many) and just let you decide the skills needed for them

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posted February 22, 2011 08:36 PM

Okay^^
So, hereby I give a summary of the Advanced classes I wish in, including those you have decided previously:

Advanced Classes:

Note: they are in blocks of 5 side by side to better read them.
For those who allready have some or all skills determined, those are given.

Alchemist, Aquamancer, Arbomancer, Archmage, Assassin

Barbarian (Battle, Offence, Antimagic), Beastmaster/Beastlord, Captain/Admiral/Sailor, Conqueror, Dark Knight

Demon Hunter, Demonologist, Dragon Hunter, Elementalist, Explorer

Ferromancer, Field Marshal, Forgemaster, Geomancer, Greycloak

Guild Master, Heretic, Illusionist, Inquisitor, Knight (Leadership, Defense & Offense)

Lich, Lord (Nobility, Estates & ?), Magelord, Merchant, Overlord

Prophet, Protector, Pyromancer, Ranger (Battle Lore, Scouting & Wood Magic), Rebel

Reaver, Sage, Seer, Siege Master/Siege Engineer, Slayer

Sorceror, Summoner, Thief, Tyrant/Oppressor, Witch

Now, before coming to skill prereqs, a different question:

I suggest each Advanced class gives a special bonus or ability (Else the whole thing makes not much sense). Shall that be

Growing effect with the hero level
OR
Growing effect with the level of the needed skills
OR
be static, you get them when you get the class, and it does not change
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posted February 23, 2011 02:21 AM

Growing with hero level

(I also say: low increase, since so many other things already grow with hero level)

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Jiriki9
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posted February 23, 2011 07:36 AM

ok

now, before we come to the classes, the mana-cost-reducing skills needs a name still.

Mysticism
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Sorcery
OR
Wizardry
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posted February 23, 2011 08:02 AM

Sorcery

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Jiriki9
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posted February 23, 2011 08:41 AM

Now for de alchemist-prereqs:

Metal Magic, Sorcery & Earth Magic
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Metal Magic, Sorcery & Enlightenment
OR
Metal Magic, Sorcery & Anti-Magic
OR
Meral Magic, Earth Magic & Enlighenment
OR
Metal Magic, Earth Magig & Anti-MAgic
OR
Metal MAgic, Enlightenment & Anti-Magic
OR
Sorcery, Earth Magic & Enlightenment
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Sorcery, Earth Magic & Anti-Magic
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Sorcery, Enlightenment & Anti-Magic
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Earth Magic, Enlighenment & Anti-Magic
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posted February 23, 2011 09:08 AM

Metal Magic, Enlightenment & Anti-Magic

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Jiriki9
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posted February 23, 2011 09:15 AM

And for Aquamancer?

Water Magic, Sorcery & Battle
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Water Magic, Sorcery & Rush
OR
Water Magic, Sorcery & Defense
OR
Water Magic, Sorcery & Navigation
OR
Water Magic, Battle & RUsh
OR
Water Magic, Battle & Defense
OR
Water Magic, Battle& Navigation
OR
Water Magic, Rush & Defense
OR
Water Magic, Rush & Navigation
OR
Water Magic, Defense & Navigation
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posted February 23, 2011 09:44 AM

Water Magic, Sorcery & Navigation
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posted February 23, 2011 09:59 AM
Edited by Jiriki9 at 10:42, 23 Feb 2011.

Since I'm off and don't know if I will be on today, again, a Cascade.

1. Arbomancer

Wood Magic, Defense & Art of War
OR
Wood Magic, Defense & Logistics
OR
Wood Magic, Defense & Estates
OR
Wood Magic, Art of War & Logistics
OR
Wood MAgic, Art of War & Estates
OR
Wood Magic, Logistics & Estates

2. Archmage

One Elemental Magic Skill, Light or Dark Magic & Sorcery
OR
Two Elemental Magic Skill & Light or Dark Magic
OR
3 Magic Skills, no matter which
OR
3 magic Skills, dark and/or light magic must be among them
OR
2 magic Skills, no matter which, and sorcery

3. Assassin

Dark Magic, Battle & Scouting
OR
Dark Magic, Battle & Rush
OR
Dark Magic, Battle & Art of War
OR
Dark Magic, Battle & Battle Lore
OR
Dark Magic, Scouting & Rush
OR
Dark Magic, Scouting & Art of War
OR
Dark MAgic, Scouting & Battle Lore
OR
Dark Magic, Rush & art of War
OR
Dark Magic, Rush & Battle Lore
OR
Dark Magic, Art of War & Battle Lore
OR
Battle, Scouting & Rush
OR
Battle, Scouting & Art of War
OR
Battle, Scouting & BAttle Lore
OR
Battle, Rush & Art of War
OR
Battle, Rush & Battle Lore
OR
Battle, Art of War & Battle Lore
OR
Scouting, Art of War & Battle Lore
OR
RUsh, Art of War & Battle Lore

4. Beastmaster/BEastlord

Wood Magic, Leadership & Diplomacy
OR
Wood Magic, Leadership & Battle
OR
Wood Magic, Leadership & Nobility
OR
Wood Magic, Diplomacy & Battle
OR
Wood Magic, Diplomacy & Nobility
OR
Wood Magic, Battle & Nobility
OR
Leadership, Diplomacy & Battle
OR
Leadership, Diplomacy & Nobility
OR
Leadership, Battle & Nobility
OR
Diplomacy, Battle & Nobility

5. Captain/Admiral/Sailor

Navigation, Scouting, Leadership
OR
Navigation, Scouting, War Machines
OR
Navigation, Scouting, Diplomacy
OR
Navigation, Scouting, Nobility
OR
Navigation, Scouting, Estates
OR
Navigation, Leadership & War Machines
OR
Navigation, Leadership & diplomacy
OR
Navigation, Leadership & Nobility
OR
Navigation, Leadership & Estates

6. Conqueror

Offense, War Machines & Logistics
OR
Offense, War Machines & Estates
OR
Offense, War Machines & Fire Magic
OR
Offense, War Machines & Rush
OR
Offense, Logistics & Fire Magic
OR
Offense, Logistics & Rush
OR
Offense, Fire Magic & Rush
OR
War MAchines, Logistics & Estates
OR
War Machines, Logistics & Fire Magic
OR
War Machines, Logistics & Rush
OR
War Machines, Estates & Fire Magic
OR
War MAchines, Estates & Rush
OR
War Machines, Fire MAgic & RUsh

7. Dark Knight

Leadership, Dark Magic & Offense
OR
Leadership, Dark MAgic & Defense
OR
Leadership, Dark MAgic & Nobility
OR
Leadership, Dark Magic & Battle
OR
Dark Magic, Offense & Defense
OR
Dark Magic, Offense & Nobility
OR
Dark Magic, Offense & BAttle
OR
Dark MAgic, Defense & BAttle
OR
Dark Magic, Nobility & Battle
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