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Sandro
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posted February 16, 2002 10:29 PM |
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Edited By: Sandro on 16 Feb 2002
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Someone want to try....?
Someone want to try my map? or perhaps help me do the balancing part? (i don't have enough time yet to test all towns). 
Honestly, this is my first XL map. 
http://www.ghproduction.f2s.com/downloads/h3sod_map.h3m
Cost to create this map is over a week  , since all trees, hills, and other objects are placed manually (Without using "obstacle-tool").
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ShadowLord
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posted February 17, 2002 01:49 AM |
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I downloaded it... I'll play it then let you know!
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Sandro
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posted February 17, 2002 02:00 AM |
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im happy to hear that dude!
tips : (pssstt) there are some linked quests on the map..
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Perji
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posted February 17, 2002 03:31 AM |
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I'll give it a try.
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Sandro
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posted February 17, 2002 03:38 AM |
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thanks perji ...
tell me after you test it .
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Perji
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posted February 17, 2002 04:26 AM |
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Well, Sandro or Vidomina could be better for the Necropolis. I didn't really play it yet, I just checked it out with the map editor. But it looks cool. Just one thing. Why those lots of creatures dwellings over there? And you could at least put something to guard those gold mines. As for the towns, hmm... *thinking* no army building from start? C'mon man, at least the first creature dwelling. That's about it for now. I'll tell you more after I play it.
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ShadowLord
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posted February 17, 2002 06:01 AM |
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I played it... The opponents are really tough specially the Inferno... It's cool... If you play it by yourself youll have a hard time killing the enemy coz your allies are so stupid. I didn't finish it.
I think the map is well done... I guess you like spoiling players a little bit!
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destro23
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posted February 17, 2002 09:54 AM |
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I'd just like to know where your heroes will earn any expereince?
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The Dead Walk!!!
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Sandro
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posted February 17, 2002 12:17 PM |
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Edited By: Sandro on 17 Feb 2002
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To Perji
Well thanks my fellow Necromancer... =), no army building, hmm... that's why i put those dwellings. And im gonna think about it. thanks for the advice =). But i'll wait more advice after you play it. =) Sandro and Vidomina.. yes =).. or Sandro and Isra.
To Shadowlord
And to Shadowlord =). This far, i cannot finish it using Tower =). I beat this map only using Dungeon and Rampart. Dunno....
Inferno too strong? Is that because the dwellings near their town? hmmm... I think its Fortress. Lol yes, the AI are stupid. Btw, may i know what town did you use?
To Destro23
Pardon? But i don't know what you mean.
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ShadowLord
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posted February 18, 2002 02:04 AM |
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To Shadowlord
And to Shadowlord =). This far, i cannot finish it using Tower =). I beat this map only using Dungeon and Rampart. Dunno....
Inferno too strong? Is that because the dwellings near their town? hmmm... I think its Fortress. Lol yes, the AI are stupid. Btw, may i know what town did you use?
Yeah inferno kicks butt they are too powerfull, I don't know why! I used Tower, it was tough to beat, the reason why the three allies are weak probably because they need more stuff to get experience. It's hard to gain level on that map. But it's easy to build troops though! Also Dracon doesn't have AIR MAGIC skill or just some logistic. Here's what I got from him:
1. Balistics - I don't think he needs it
2. Luck - fine
3. Mysticism - doesn't really matter
4. Leadership - fine
5. Earth Magic - Cool
6. Tactic - it's fine
7. Resistance - I don't think he needs this though
8. Armorer - is fine
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malkia
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posted February 18, 2002 11:01 PM |
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Nice map Sandro,
I've started with Adrienne (witch) / Fortress (the lizards).
Played on extreme (+wood). Finished 3 month, 4 week, 2 day - eh or it's 79 days - 442 points.
I left out with about 400K of gold, and bought nearly all my army. My supporting computer at the begining used to rush around (he was barbarian) and conquer. He started playing against the GOOD side (castle/tower/rampart). I've chosed to attack the Inferno/undead/blackDragons.
Lately my computer partner started to explore the WATER - and that probably increased the days spent winning the game. Probably you should put bigger monster to keep the docks near the unupgraded castle. 2/3?? Rust dragons seems not enough.
Will be nice if underground will be added. Overall i've enjoyed the map. It was a fast game.
Undead used to build their GRAIL very early in the game - I was suprised how fast that was. In your map it was filled with undead cloud and if human was supposed to find it - it'll be impossible (the grail was located in undead clouded location). No paths/rocks were visible. But AI computer will find it!!
Now I may try it with undead (heh - I know where is the GRAIL!!! yeaah).
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malkia
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posted February 18, 2002 11:19 PM |
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one more thing Sandro, if you have more maps - please rename them with some better name - BermudeIsland.h3m instead of h3sod_map.h3m.
Is there any other maps made by you?
for ShadowLord - i think Balistics is okay with Dracon supposedly he has to used lots of rangers and you don't wanna lose them by big amounts because of that. Also nagas can go easily then inside. The only two flying creatures Tower had are too weak for real melee.
for Destro23 - there's lots of experience to get - my Adrienne got 190470 level 24 witch. Actually i hate witches, especially the ones with fire - but I got used to it. i got Expert Pathfinding, Expert Logistics, Expert Wisdom, Expert Fire Magic, Expert Nagivation (uuh i have to choose between navigation and scouting and I chose nagivation thinking at the begining that sailing will be important - though I never sailed ), Expert First Aid (between luck and aid i chosed Aid - all I wanted was morele!!! but never happened), and then last one i got was Expert Luck
Statistics with everything equiped: Atk=20/Def=19/Pwr=18/Mana=16
Statistics without being equpped:
Atk=12/Def=14/Pwr=17/Mana=13
i got also the boots and gloves - thus making me very fast.
At begining I was going with and only my fortress army - everything. Then at the middle I was going with 7 firebirds - they joined me - so I left out my gnolls.. Lately in the game (after 3 month 1 week) I've started jumping around with TOWN PORTAL (something which probaly should not be allowed for that game) and gathered only strong 6-7 level units. Black Dragons, Manticores, Wyverns, Archdevils, Efreets (all upgraded). Those units were about 5-10 each - not so strong. Probably I shouldve used more low level units. For the final battle i got 40 DEMONS instead of 8 cavaleries, and I also chosed 82 helldogs (cerberies) instead of 4 titans.
I was also keeping about 25-30 upgraded Chaos Hydras, and 100-120 Mighty Gorgons.
I may say that Mighty Gorgons made this game.
last battle computer (tower/blue/Dracco) got 28 titans (2x14), 120 archmages, 65 nagas, 400 gargoyles, 250 golems, 120 (or 180 can't remmebner) genies.
It was easy one to beat - i left out with my only 90 mighty gorgons and 20 chaos hydras. Of course i've used lots of ressurect.
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ShadowLord
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posted February 18, 2002 11:30 PM |
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Malkia! I guess it might be a good option to have ballistics too! When I played it... The reason why the inferno kicked ass is because they have the grail which, the last thing I remember when I lost with them is that, the hero has a stack of 500+ Magogs and 200+ pit lords (nasty one)!
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Perji
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posted February 19, 2002 02:20 AM |
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Well, it's done!
Ok, Sandro, I played your map. It's pretty cool, considering that you hand-made it. But then again, I am here to ctiticise it. So here I go: I'v played the Necropolis (duh) with Lord Haart undead. I've told you before, you should change the hero for necropolis. The Evil fog is useless where it is set (in the necropolis area) because the undead don't have morale. Those pyramids are just crazy. What has gone wrong there? Why mummies instead of any necro creature? The setting of the map is pretty cool, though I think I'm gonna make a version of it without the allies. I don't like one part. There are no towers, star axis, camps, anything that should make your hero grow on levels. And those savage creatures are pretty cool, especially for the necro. I had over 6000 skeletons at the end. And here's the biggy: where the heck am I supposed to find artifacts?
That's about it. It is a nice map, but it needs more work.
Oh, I almost forgot. How could you create a sod map with conflux? This is my second favourite town, but I can't create maps with Conflux. What did you do?
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DVZ
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posted February 19, 2002 04:07 AM |
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Conflux
You can create SoD map with Conflux if you either have Heroes Complete or Armageddon's Blade expansion.
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Perji
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posted February 20, 2002 12:50 AM |
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Yes, I knew that, but I don't have either of them. So I can't create conflux in sod. But I shall some day.... and then I shall rule the entire world muhahahaa
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DVZ
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posted February 20, 2002 02:13 AM |
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AB campaigns are actually very good, you should consider getting the HC or AB if you see it super cheap. I think AB even won expansion game of the year from a computer magazine, which name I forgot!
A lot of people consider Conflux a cheater town, but who cares, I love playing Conflux. It saves a lot of headache having able to learn any or all four Magic skills from the Magic University. Besides Conflux line up suits my gameplay the best -- fast expansion, fast troops! To me, Conflux plays pretty much like Sorceress in H2. Delicate, fast, and a powerhouse!
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Sandro
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posted February 21, 2002 12:32 PM |
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Pardon for my late reply. I was on vacation. But now im back. Dunno where should i start. Ok here they are..
To Malkia
My God! What a detailed information for the Fortress!, many thanks man! So 2 or 3 Rust Dragons are not enough? I will update it then =). And as for underground, perhaps i will add it in the future, since i spent so much concentration already, creating that map manually, i need some break for a moment.
About the grail, dunno but somehow i feel that the Evil-Side (Dungeon/Necro/Infer) gain the Grail too early... hmm.. maybe because the roads? i will reduce the roads in their teritory for the updated version.
And..yes, there are other 3 maps created by me, and they are also created manually in 1 campaign. but that not quite good as this one. Just like you, i enjoy playing this map too. Thanks again Malkia.
Now... more tip.. The Admiral's Hat is a key to enter an island. See an island with a Seer's Hut for more details.
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To ShadowLord
Ok, ok dude... i will leave more free slots for Dracon's Secondary Skills. And.... Is hard to gain level? There are 5 trees of knowledge, and some Learning Stone. My Gelu beat that map at level 22.
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To Perji
Wow... too much critics i've receive here. Im gonna update that map  . But..!! There are Star Axis, Camps, Towers in that map. You can find them in the middle of the map.
And as for artifacts, if you use Necro/Dungeon/Infer go to Dungeon town and see the Artifact Merchants. Also if you use Castle/Rampart/Tower go to Tower's Artifact Merchants.
If you use Stonghold/Fortress.. there are 2 Black Markets on the map, 1 of them near your town .
Yeah.. i know it needs more work. But thanks again for the comments and criticz.
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Thanks everyone! ))
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Perji
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posted February 22, 2002 07:17 PM |
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To Perji
Wow... too much critics i've receive here. Im gonna update that map . But..!! There are Star Axis, Camps, Towers in that map. You can find them in the middle of the map.
And as for artifacts, if you use Necro/Dungeon/Infer go to Dungeon town and see the Artifact Merchants. Also if you use Castle/Rampart/Tower go to Tower's Artifact Merchants.
If you use Stonghold/Fortress.. there are 2 Black Markets on the map, 1 of them near your town .
Yeah.. i know it needs more work. But thanks again for the comments and criticz.
Yes, I know about the artifact merchants. But the artifacts there don't refresh very often. And what do I do if I can't find anything good for me there? And another point, You can't buy armageddon's blade (just an example for powerful artifacts) at the merchants. And when I said more work, I ment put some roads there for god's sake. In the middle part. And in the towns area, some artifacts. Just don't put the artifacts yourself, set them random and it'll be ok. Just some ideas, not sth. to go by.
And another thing, is there a version of the map with no allies?
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ShadowLord
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posted February 22, 2002 08:55 PM |
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Ok, ok dude... i will leave more free slots for Dracon's Secondary Skills. And.... Is hard to gain level? There are 5 trees of knowledge, and some Learning Stone. My Gelu beat that map at level 22.
Cool... But I didn't even get @ level 22 coz I was overwhelmed by inferno! Let us know once you're done updating it!
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