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EmperorSly
Known Hero
Destroyer of Liver
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posted March 29, 2004 01:56 PM |
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While Mad Wizard is a good advanced class to have, its value is actually decreased, when commbined with mages staff and robe -- if you have these 2 items, ice bolt or illusion costs you 1 mana anyway, wizard or not. And theres never time to cast mana flare (another good reason to be a wizard -- so you dont have to), because first that cyclops needs forgetfulness, etc. Biggest problem with wizard is that every time he casts an order spell, his collection of chaos skills is unutilized, and thats a waste.
Dark Priest with vampiric touch sounds mighty, but hey -- why should a guy twice skilled in magic suddenly take part in melee combat? For effective use the guy needs GM combat, GM melee, and enough life and death magic to stay dark priest. Thats way expensive experiencewise and also wasteful -- whether kicking, cursing or blessing, he is always wasting already 2 sets of skills. Its cheaper to have barbarian and a death magic hero to vampirize the barb.
Seer however never wastes a single skill, moves fast, kills relatively well, and always goes to the right direction because of the really wide visibility area, so actually a very nice class, almost as dangerous as a ranger. Even more dangerous when combined with big army.
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Wizard
Hired Hero
Trying to defend a castle
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posted March 29, 2004 03:50 PM |
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Opeth, I agree that order magic is probably the best magic type, especially if you are playing with order town ....
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Against stupidity the very gods themselves contend in vain.
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terje_the_ma...
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Disciple of Herodotus
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posted March 30, 2004 12:04 PM |
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Seer however never wastes a single skill, moves fast, kills relatively well, and always goes to the right direction because of the really wide visibility area, so actually a very nice class, almost as dangerous as a ranger. Even more dangerous when combined with big army.
I can see ypur point.
I can also see that the Seer is a better skill type than the Bard, who someone earlier in this thread liked. Why? Because the lvl 2 Illusion spell is able to make illusions of lvl 4 creatures, while with Nature magic, you'll need GM level to summon these kinds of creatures.
Ofc, you being able to make illusions of lvl 4s demands that you either have lvl4 creatures in your army, which'll render your Stealth useless, or you'll hav to be fighting lvl4s, which'll probbly kill you, no matter how high levelled your hero is. Unless he can summon enough creatures to hold the enemy creatures at bay...
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"Sometimes I think everyone's just pretending to be brave, and none of us really are. Maybe pretending to be brave is how you get brave, I don't know."
- Grenn, A Storm of Swords.
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Wizard
Hired Hero
Trying to defend a castle
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posted March 31, 2004 09:46 AM |
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But a seer cannot summon water elementals  P Water elementals rock!
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terje_the_ma...
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Disciple of Herodotus
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posted March 31, 2004 11:37 AM |
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Eeeh.... but they can uuh... make illusions of themselves!! or maybe not...
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"Sometimes I think everyone's just pretending to be brave, and none of us really are. Maybe pretending to be brave is how you get brave, I don't know."
- Grenn, A Storm of Swords.
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Planeswalker
Famous Hero
Chaotic Good
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posted March 31, 2004 08:21 PM |
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Well, I kind of like Shadow Mage.
Not only because I like the combination Order/Death Magic,. but also because 50% ranged defence is very good since your hero will stay alive longer and can cast a lot of Raise and Animation spells.
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vicu
Tavern Dweller
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posted April 06, 2004 02:19 PM |
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i start mostly with haven, that means life heroes and i try to develop one archmage (combat + life, order and chaos magic) and the other has tactics, combat, scouting and order or life magic - the class depends of how developed he is
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Gun
Tavern Dweller
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posted July 07, 2004 09:45 PM |
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i always like the Demonologist class. The summon demon spells don't require you to visit mage guild/conservatory/mage tower. Demonologist can also be useful in single map, because only at level 3 [only 2 learning stones and 0 battle required] he can get summon imps spell for free provided the hero can purchase/learn Basic Nature Magic from the structure/university.
Summon Imps spell summons relatively large amount [100+ per 5 MP cost summon] of disposable Imps for 'free', useful for clearing mines/resources guard; and most importantly, to get exps for the novice Demonologist to achieve level 7-8, so now he can case Summon Cerberus [again, always in a relatively large number for 'free'] to attack level 2/3 neutral creatures in the map.
Summon Ice Demons can be obtained once you reach around level 11-12. With this spell, you can pretty much attack ANY neutral stacks in the map. Of course for the level 4 stack does require the Demonologist to do a little hit and flee. But the point you don't have to sacrifice armies at all to defeat the stack, because MP for summoning demons is easily refilled as long as you have at least one non-might town.
The Summon Ice Demon spell is pretty much the turning point of the game; meaning it is the cue for the Demonologist to begin the invasion to conquer more town, singlehandedly even! Ice Demons have fantastic stats and special, they're so much better than vampires/VenomSpawns. Also you can always summon imps for the hero LOS cover and mana quencher. Herbalism and Occultism guarantee you to always enough mana to summon Ice Demon to conquer town of your choice; If they don't, just inflict enough casualties then flee to lay siege another day.
and don't forget the immo potions for the Combat-less Demonologist...
I once get MegaDragon rank [1,040 points] using semi-Demonologist path in Expert difficulty of Nature's Revenge map. My best score in single scenario so far...
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maybe i'd be better on my own; it's easier for me to be alone...
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recca_cool
Hired Hero
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posted July 12, 2004 02:25 PM |
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I am not sure if anybody mentioned it, but I will be VERY surprised if nobody really mentinoed it ...
I forgot hte name of the class:
But it is the one which gives you bonus 10% to all magic spells I guess... Arch-something maybe
This is the best and I always go for it
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barbarian
Famous Hero
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posted July 12, 2004 07:39 PM |
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beastmaster  rulz with he's many sommunings and powerfull ones of elements i just leave one empty space with just water elementals and if all of my heroes are like that which is not hard and all of them are sumononrs which is also not hard than i get 7 water elementals per day that means that within a month i will have about 280 water elementals try and kill them muhahahahah .
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Asmodean
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Heroine at the weekend.
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posted July 13, 2004 01:56 AM |
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Lich_King
Honorable
Supreme Hero
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posted July 13, 2004 08:02 PM |
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beastmaster rulz with he's many sommunings and powerfull ones of elements i just leave one empty space with just water elementals and if all of my heroes are like that which is not hard and all of them are sumononrs which is also not hard than i get 7 water elementals per day that means that within a month i will have about 280 water elementals try and kill them muhahahahah .
Excuse me, but what has beastmaster with Water Elementals... ? All Grandmaster (Master in Equ) Summoning heroes can summon elementals and Beastmaster only gives + 20 % to Summon Wolf spell, which is useleff most of the time...
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barbarian
Famous Hero
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posted July 13, 2004 08:12 PM |
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ok sorry i didn't play the game for 2 years i may have forgotten some facts about it , you would to if you wouldn't have been playing it for 2 years.
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recca_cool
Hired Hero
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posted July 14, 2004 05:47 AM |
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ok sorry i didn't play the game for 2 years i may have forgotten some facts about it , you would to if you wouldn't have been playing it for 2 years.
If so, why are you posting a comment which you are not sure about, I wonder..
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barbarian
Famous Hero
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posted July 15, 2004 03:42 AM |
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well i was prety sure because i remembered a bonus to sumonings with the beastmaster, the fact that it was for wolves wasn't such a big thing so i was prety sure i wasn't mistaken, now you can stop wondering about it for the rest of your life .
Edit by ThE_HyDrA: Revived.
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FireSpirit
Famous Hero
with warm hands
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posted September 18, 2004 08:05 PM |
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I am not sure if anybody mentioned it, but I will be VERY surprised if nobody really mentinoed it ...
I forgot hte name of the class:
But it is the one which gives you bonus 10% to all magic spells I guess... Arch-something maybe
This is the best and I always go for it
Itīs 20%! Isnīt it great? The name is Arch Mage.
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recca_cool
Hired Hero
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posted September 19, 2004 11:24 AM |
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Itīs 20%! Isnīt it great? The name is Arch Mage.
Exactly! It is super great and my fav. one, I always go for it; since I a rely heavily on spells.
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bplk
Tavern Dweller
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posted September 21, 2004 07:13 PM |
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In the chart below, you can cross-reference two skills to learn what type of advanced class you will become.
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Q
Hired Hero
Moo,I say.
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posted December 28, 2004 07:44 PM |
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Iīll say ninja but not for the stealth,for the numbers and for the LOS.And i like death
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redprince24
Hired Hero
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posted March 23, 2009 02:43 PM |
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I like Warden and Field Marshall.
both give bonuses to all creatures in the hero's army that can minimize their own losses and maximize their own killings. victory can be achieved easier.
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