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Heroes Community > Tavern of the Rising Sun > Thread: Why do all the balkan countries hate each other ?
Thread: Why do all the balkan countries hate each other ? This thread is 4 pages long: 1 2 3 4 · «PREV
NoobX
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Now, this is a paradox...
posted February 01, 2013 05:49 PM

By missing people I mean missing Serbs. I've heard of the organ extractions and selling them for good money. Some detectives say that people that were robbed of organs were fully aware of the happenings around them and that they weren't under an anesthesia.


Serbs hate Croats and vice versa because of the recent wars and genocide. Also, I've heard some people hate the way the Croatians speak.
Not that I know much about it, though.
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Seraphim
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posted February 04, 2013 11:01 AM
Edited by Seraphim at 11:56, 04 Feb 2013.

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By missing people I mean missing Serbs. I've heard of the organ extractions and selling them for good money. Some detectives say that people that were robbed of organs were fully aware of the happenings around them and that they weren't under an anesthesia.



Oh, thats what you mean. Now, why do you serbs always get cheeky..
Both Albanians and Serbians have people that are missing still to this day.

Ok, lets take this into account. How can some insurgents-criminals-gunmen-mercenaries conduct complex medical surgeries while the victimg not being under anesthesia? Even the worst horror movies cant actually make that look plausible.
LEts just say they had criminal doctors who made that happen, where did the organs go? Where are the bodies?
And where are similiar investigations against Serbia? Some 1800 albanians are missing. Maybe they had their organs removed aswell.

Serbia to this day has no made a single, not a single statement that would allow foreign investigators to look across serbia for mass graves, none.


Unlike what the media and movies sell people as facts, people who trade organs do that willingly. They sell their kidneys for a promised price. If that money is not recieved, that is called organ theft.
In more extreme cases, they are kidnapped and then killed.

There was a case in Kosovo where a turkish doctor undertook such operations.
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But constant revelations in the Serbian press that new evidence, or new witnesses have emerged for the organ-trafficking allegations, have all proven either false, or unsubstantiated," according to BBC News. One EULEX investigator called it a "fairy-tale". A source close to the Serbian investigation was also quoted as saying "I still believe something happened there, but nothing on the scale of what has been suggested... and possibly not even connected to the KLA."[13]

The European Union has set up an investigation, with a task force headed by U.S. prosecutor John Clint Williamson. Although, Kosovo and Albania continue to deny the accusations, on 2 May 2012, Albania drafted legislation allowing an EU-led investigation, which would permit international investigators to conduct the probe on Albanian territory.[30] Prime minister Sali Berisha stressed that for Albania it is "a priority" to investigate allegations made by Dick Marty


Whatever though, if investigations where to lead to a success, I would be happy because former KLA insurgents did kill MORE Albanians after the war then people died at the hands of Serbian military before.
If somebody was to indict and imprison them, everyone would be happier.

You seem to know already alot about what I would expect from Serbs.
No offense, its just that I am pretty sure you have made your mind up that every albanian is a "homologous mass of hate preaching, evil and noise".
Thats ok.
I just want you to remember one thing, we are people, not satanic demon spawn from hell. There are criminals, and there are respectful people.
Not the ones the media portrays, but the ones that just want to live normally and peacefully.
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Every sheep knows that Serbia can enter the EU, kosovo cant. Any move that undermines the creation of order and law in Kosovo is against the normal people, against citizens.
Not those who are in power.
Kosovo will remain a backwarded place, and any peace attempts will be stalled as long as people are not treated as people. For many countries, People from Kosovo are no faces as they dont really exist.

That is to say, serbia produces the most poverty in the region by keeping 1.8 million people without a status, state and future.
So next time any european mentions kosovo as a criminal area, all credits should go to Serbia by making Kosovo a breeding ground for criminality.
That suits the EU well, because the mission in Kosovo will continue to dwell there, without any real attempts at putting the mafia down or actually making any progress.
So yeah europeans, you suck aswell.
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posted February 04, 2013 01:21 PM

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3. In XIX century these nations don't want the Ottoman rule any more.


After that I stopped reading. They wanted ottoman rule to XIX? They never wanted it.
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Zenofex
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posted February 04, 2013 01:41 PM

Poor choice of words. The meaning behind them should be obvious though.

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NoobX
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Now, this is a paradox...
posted February 04, 2013 02:39 PM

Could be that the Albanians that were in good relationship with Serbs were kidnapped as well. There was some investigation there, but I can't tell you much since it isn't a very popular topic here.
Anyways, the organ removal part is true. You don't have to be a doctor to rip someone's stomach and take the guts out to take the kidneys and whatnot. Not that it would matter to the terrorists. I think that their main goal was to kill people and make a profit out of it.

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So next time any european mentions kosovo as a criminal area, all credits should go to Serbia by making Kosovo a breeding ground for criminality.


Sorry, dude, but that's not right. If you say that calling your whole nation a killer folk is bad and wrong, you must realize that calling someone guilty and evil is equally bad. If you want to blame someone, blame the government.
I am a part of Serbia and when you say that Serbia is responsible for all that crime and whatelse, you're saying that for me too. Now how in the world could I be responsible for crime on Kosovo?
Wait, I know how... I wasn't there with my teen SWAT team when a village was raided and that encouraged the attackers to continue, no? People were mugged, attacked, killed, the crime rate has increased...

Shame on me, shame...
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Seraphim
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posted February 05, 2013 09:44 AM

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Could be that the Albanians that were in good relationship with Serbs were kidnapped as well. There was some investigation there, but I can't tell you much since it isn't a very popular topic here.
Anyways, the organ removal part is true. You don't have to be a doctor to rip someone's stomach and take the guts out to take the kidneys and whatnot.



Actually, you do need to be a surgeon to undertake such actions, not that it would be problematic to have any doctors in such scenarios though.

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Not that it would matter to the terrorists. I think that their main goal was to kill people and make a profit out of it.


The main goal in such cases was to earn money.

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Sorry, dude, but that's not right. If you say that calling your whole nation a killer folk is bad and wrong, you must realize that calling someone guilty and evil is equally bad. If you want to blame someone, blame the government.


Perhaps not all credits, but some. Of course though, I meant goverment and discriminatory politics from both sides.

I made some over-generalization before.

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