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violent_flower
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posted July 04, 2012 11:38 PM |
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Wow this is hot!
OK, I am just curious if anyone else noticed these separate but very similar story lines that have been in the news, but they never seem to be brought up together.
On the one hand, there was the story about the one scientist who had held out against global warming/ climate change caused by human endeavors, in which some came out against saying how temperatures overall have not raised globally as they had expected. And comes the stories of el nino and the effects it has had upon our weather, in which they said that particular weather pattern causes lower than normal GLOBAL temperatures.
Now if you put those two together, and realize no one has gotten off their lazy asses to do a god damn thing about our ignorant continued use of fossil fuels and trying to minimize the changes that are coming, whether we want it or not. What we should have heading our way will be temperatures naturally rising from el nino's disappearance, and then on top of that will be the noticeable change in our temperature because we are creating an umbrella that is slowly holding in heat.
It is not a fun time to understand the workings and ways of the universe. All of the patterns ever depicted by life (living organisms) will show us that we are destroying ourselves but no one is willing to change.
This is not a problem that is going to just go away, like the Russians or Bin Laden, this is the greatest enemy known to mankind and yet our society pays it lip service but will not take the steps necessary to avoid catastrophe because it would require effort.
Amazes me how lazy sheep in our society are. You want to go nowhere, follow everyone else. This subject matter is going to burn us, so to speak.
And to further this on a political level Romney is still living in douche land on this subject. I am sure that most will continue to ignore the basic common sense I try to disperse but as you consider different subjects for the upcoming election this is a big one. The one that has drawn my ire today is his assertion about continuing this countries dependence upon fossil fuels for energy, even though it, like evolution, it is consider an understood fact, not a myth or possibility, that fossil fuels do serious damage to our environment.
We have to evolve into a different mindset and not just politically but as a whole. Nuff said.
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JoonasTo
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posted July 04, 2012 11:46 PM |
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That's rich coming from an US citizen.
Damn, I quess we do have hope afterll.
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The_Horn
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posted July 05, 2012 02:03 AM |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eScDfYzMEEw
this guy explained how it really works 
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violent_flower
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posted July 05, 2012 02:50 AM |
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He is great, one of the best.
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Tsar-Ivor
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posted July 05, 2012 03:29 AM |
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Lol I was expecting some asinine scientist, but when I saw GC I giggled like a school-girl ^^.
Anyway, my take on all this is that things work themselves out, nature has a fine system of turning things inside out, to the untrained eyes this is near instantaneous. My advice? Carry on harder and faster.
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Ghost
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posted July 05, 2012 04:09 AM |
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I can not hear! Your's subtitles are great!
@Violent_flower
"and there will be great earthquakes, and in various places plagues and famines; and there will be terrors and great signs from heaven." - Luke 21:11, "There will be signs in sun and moon and stars, and on the earth dismay among nations, in perplexity at the roaring of the sea and the waves, men fainting from fear and the expectation of the things which are coming upon the world; for the powers of the heavens will be shaken." - Luke 21:25, 26
10 000 years away from Earth is the Ice Age, the Orion constellation is close to the Earth..
Yes, the smoke affects the climate shall be unclean..
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violent_flower
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posted July 05, 2012 04:55 AM |
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I agree with all of you, I guess why not just give it your best shot while your here. Maybe you discover something new and exciting, create a few jobs in a new field. I for one wish this whole demise of society would hurry the hell up. I mean really what is it waiting for, lets thin the herd and call it a simply fantastic day already.
However while we wait lets do what we can and not ignore the blatant obvious; and thank you I try to make my subtitles as unsubtle as possible.
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kodial79
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posted July 05, 2012 09:44 AM |
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This is not a problem that is going to just go away, like the Russians or Bin Laden, this is the greatest enemy known to mankind and yet our society pays it lip service but will not take the steps necessary to avoid catastrophe because it would require effort.
In the grim, darkness of the future...
Something tells me, this is going to be our new phantom menace as soon as the so called terrorism is dealt with [translation: When Russia will lose some world war or Islam goes extinct or becomes completely controlled].
However, unlike terrorism, we're going to be the enemy this time. Not only some poor souls in war-torn counties. They're gonna come up with some stupid crap such as "Do not build there!" or "Do not crap here!" cause this is nature and nature is superior, human scum!
That is after they will put all the blame on us because we are too many, because we eat too much and we fart too much or whatever. And here come more weird taxes, here comes confining our civil liberties and rights, limiting our freedom of movement, and who knows what else.
It might not sound as all that bad too many of you, if it's on the purpose of saving the environment, as they will excuse it. But I disagree.
You see, when our oh so wise world leaders are involved, you can expect nothing is being done for any good. Cause they don't give a damn about nature and climate change in the first place, like they don't give a damn about us. They're gonna look only to profit out of this whole situation just like they always do.
Pretty much like the way they deal with terrorism. Fight fire with fire, and more desperate people go and become terrorists anyway. Problem NOT solved.
But I'm gonna be glad if it is just that. Cause it has the possibility to be even worse. A lot worse in fact, if some real ideologists and not the corrupted politicians we all got used to, but people who truly care about the environment to a fanatical level, take charge. Such as Hitler or Bin Laden. Now these were ideologists. Lunatics maybe but not corrupted, their ideals no matter how evil, they were pure.
...And the ecology nazis are marching on. To all that I said they could do before, add reducing human population and if you still agree, then go die first.
Although I doubt it would be some direct mass extermination. It will probably be through taxes, taxing us for being alive, taxing us for having kids, making many poor people not wanting to have families, effectively reducing our population in due time.
You're good with that too? Lead by example. Don't have a family. Die alone.
Sure, I'm all up for preserving nature too, saving animals from extinction, reducing pollution, stop cutting down forests, etc. etc. But not at the expense of the human race!
If there was a middle way, I would much preffer to follow it but indeed we are too many but that's how it is.
I think it's Earth who has to put up with us and not us with it. For the survival of our species, I would reduce the whole planet to ashes if I would have to and move on to the next one. If I would have to...
The law of the jungle, bigger fish eats smaller fish, does not exclude the planet. Besides, don't those tree-hugging hippies like to imagine it as a living being? If it's living, it's edible. We'll see who is the bigger fish in the end! 
Yeah, that made it sound like a bad joke, I guess. Sorry. 
But anyway, unless we find some way to "save our environment" without turning against ourselves in the procedure, I would totally go for it. If that's not possible, I would much rather duke it out with Earth and let this mad crush course come to its natural finish, and many the best one win in the end.
Personally, I think it's going to be Earth. And after it expells us for being idiots, give it a millenia or two, will bring back a healthy ecosystem and life will spring anew. And I will have no regrets. Regrettable would be killing ourselves or weaker ones among us, to save Earth.
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Ghost
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posted July 05, 2012 10:15 AM |
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The law of the jungle, bigger fish eats smaller fish, does not exclude the planet. Besides, don't those tree-hugging hippies like to imagine it as a living being? If it's living, it's edible. We'll see who is the bigger fish in the end!
Not just hands clap, you hands swinging up. Do you know why? Fish know birds eat fish! We can not understand their way of life. Outside of the universe they would see we have food for them. When we dive in and say hello to the fish. With fish, there is nothing to fear.
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fauch
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posted July 05, 2012 01:17 PM |
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If there was a middle way, I would much preffer to follow it but indeed we are too many but that's how it is.
not yet, it's more a problem of organization. we create a lot of waste for nothing.
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Seraphim
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posted July 05, 2012 06:02 PM |
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Edited by Seraphim at 18:18, 05 Jul 2012.
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Watch this. Thats my take about this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0aFPXr4n4
Really, nobody gives a crap about the planet because, guess what, nobody lives for their children or people that will live in the future.
I dont give a crap about what life people in the future will have. Really, why the hell care?
Global warming might be true but I dont see how that affects my life, so why care? Too hot? Get an air conditioner or a large fan.
As an individual, the least you could do is clean your kitchen and avoid contact with asbestos  . I forgot to mention that you should conserve electricity, more wasted fossil fuels,yay.
I dont think there is any reason to believe that our "Climate" meddling will affect the planet at large. The worst that it could cause is further our "Self-extinction" and that of other species. We are just another bio-catastrophe our planet has faced so yeah.
Considering that by the next 1 billion years our planet will not be habitable, it seems like our planet has served its time.
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violent_flower
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posted July 05, 2012 09:20 PM |
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The hope is that you don't have children, my hope is further that if you do have children seize any and all sexual acts ASAP, do not pause at any sperm banks, and do not collect two hundred dollars.
The shocks value of not giving a *hit is very cute, I for one find it somewhat lack luster.
There is no reason to purposely waste our resources or give up on trying to better the place that we destroy everyday.
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GunFred
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posted July 05, 2012 11:08 PM |
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Edited by GunFred at 23:09, 05 Jul 2012.
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"With fish, there is nothing to fear." - Ghost
Try telling that to people who were torn to shreds by sharks or to children who just saw Jaws (the movie) a few years earlier than they should have.
Btw... George Carlin as awesome!
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Ghost
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posted July 06, 2012 07:13 AM |
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If Gyro Gearloose increase the size of the fish. Big size need more food in day.
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Seraphim
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posted July 06, 2012 10:48 AM |
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The hope is that you don't have children, my hope is further that if you do have children seize any and all sexual acts ASAP, do not pause at any sperm banks, and do not collect two hundred dollars.
I am in my 20's but thanks for the suggestions anyway. They certainly are "Completely" non-emotional and without "Prejudice". You seem to regard me as a monster...you monster, and I was not even talking about this. "GLaDOS pun"
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The shocks value of not giving a *hit is very cute, I for one find it somewhat lack luster.
Why is it such a problem to express radical stances? I really dont care about the future because,once I am dead, why should I care? Children? If you do have children, do you have any control on what life or what world they are living in? Perhaps if you have some "Wealth" you do, but not on which world they live.
If you find it logical to invest a fortune, as an individual, to save some CO2 than you are completely delusional. My point is that, unless a government makes it "Feasible" to change to alternative energy sources, there is no need to.
That said.Worrying about climate change is illogical because even a bunch of nations cannot impose control on another nation or make them agree on policies aimed at reducing CO2 output, in other words its a hopeless endeavor.
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There is no reason to purposely waste our resources or give up on trying to better the place that we destroy everyday.
There is no reason to purposely waste our resources on things we have no control on.
Again, the best you can offer "Insert offspring here" is what you deem is best. If you believe you or any group is able to change a future world, then by all means do so.
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violent_flower
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posted July 06, 2012 11:14 PM |
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The point is that if everyone could just give one ****, not even two **** about the future of the planet we could all benefit. Whether it be your offspring or mine. I am not some radical that believes we should all just put ourselves in more debt trying to do this, or I have got a flash mob together to save the birds.
I just feel like when you have an ideology of, "Why should I care when I am dead!" Well then you are just swimming in your own selfishness and stupidity. If that's the case then do you feel that way about everything. Which if that's what you want to do by all means keep swimming, be careful though you may drowned.
MOD EDIT: Edited for proper language censoring.
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xerox
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posted July 06, 2012 11:32 PM |
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We should focus more on adapting to the climate changes rather than trying to prevent them.
But of course, it is also good for the economy long-term to not depend on fossil fuels that will run out.
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violent_flower
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posted July 06, 2012 11:38 PM |
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Not trying to change the climate, just help anyway that is feasible to do so.
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fauch
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posted July 07, 2012 12:12 AM |
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overall, what is good for the economy, isn't good for the planet anyway.
and I'm not sure we would sacrifice anything by caring, oh well, except maybe that economical system based on destroying the planet.
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xerox
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posted July 07, 2012 12:20 AM |
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better economy = more money to spend on adapting to the consequences of the climate changes
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