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Simpelicity
Simpelicity


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posted July 22, 2012 12:12 AM bonus applied by alcibiades on 22 Jul 2012.
Edited by Simpelicity at 23:07, 18 May 2013.

Townscreen showcase

Hello everyone!

After a viewer asked me for a showcase of the new townscreens, I decided to try a little something. I only have Inferno done as of now, beccause they do take a bit of time to make, but I'll do the others as well (and post them here of course). I suppose you could say the showcase is more about the artistic qualities of the screen rather than its functionalities, since I don't actually explore those.

Inferno!

Sanctuary!

Stronghold!

Haven!

Necropolis!

Dungeon!

It's not the best it could be, mainly because of the presence of the hud, but that's about as good as I can make it for now.

If someone who knows anything about modding would like to help me with these (I don't know the first thing about modding), there's a few things that would make these better/easier to do (easier making them come out faster). My eternal grattitude would be written down in the description of these if you could help me out. Here's what I was thinking about :

1. Getting the hud the hell outta there. I don't know if that's even possible. But if the hud was only there when you clicked a building, and then disappeared again after you exit whatever menu you opened, the hud would be gone and these videos would look 5 times better.

2. If, when I start a multiplayer game, the players begin with more ressources they could ever need to build up their castle and a Tear of Asha in their pocket, that's cut out all the time I need to put into scavenging ressources and finding the Tear, cut down the recording time by that much, and just make the videos come out faster.

As a bonus, if you figure out a way to get the cursor out as well, while making it still playable, go for it. It's a dilemma I can't figure out though. You don't want to see it in the video, but I kinda need it to build stuff.

Anyways, hope you enjoy!
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GenyaArikado
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posted July 22, 2012 12:33 AM

Thank you a lot for making this.

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posted July 22, 2012 05:45 AM
Edited by jhb at 05:56, 22 Jul 2012.

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Hello
1. Getting the hud the hell outta there. I don't know if that's even possible. But if the hud was only there when you clicked a building, and then disappeared again after you exit whatever menu you opened, the hud would be gone and these videos would look 5 times better.



Actually, there is an arrow at the northeast of the window with your creatures. This arrow can remove the hud completly and if you click on anything or move the mouse  to the south the hud will be back.

Edit: nvm, I think you already knew that hehe

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Simpelicity
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posted July 22, 2012 07:22 AM

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Quote:
Hello
1. Getting the hud the hell outta there. I don't know if that's even possible. But if the hud was only there when you clicked a building, and then disappeared again after you exit whatever menu you opened, the hud would be gone and these videos would look 5 times better.



Actually, there is an arrow at the northeast of the window with your creatures. This arrow can remove the hud completly and if you click on anything or move the mouse  to the south the hud will be back.

Edit: nvm, I think you already knew that hehe


Yeah, it pops back up whenever you want to do anything, and more importantly it's there right after you build something. I did at least give a good look at the fully built up castle without the hud though. That was a minimum. Now if only it could stay away for the whole video...
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alcibiades
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posted July 22, 2012 09:35 AM

Awesome job, effort much appreciated, hope to see the others also!
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Adrius
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posted July 22, 2012 10:33 AM

Nice.

Huh, never realized H6 borrowed Dark Messiah ost.
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Tsar-Ivor
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posted July 22, 2012 02:12 PM
Edited by Tsar-Ivor at 00:47, 23 Jul 2012.

Yeh, the multiplayer plays the Dark Messiah ost aswell, (the bit where you're approaching stonehelm)

I went ballistic, since I recognized it, but I was certain that it's not music played in a HoMM title.
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Simpelicity
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posted July 28, 2012 07:52 PM

I finally finished the second one!

Sorry for taking so long, my H6 Let's play ran into some problems and that just screwed up all my recording schedule. Had to rush recording-editing my Lps, and this little side-project got delayed. I was hoping to get it out last thursday, but... yeah. Delays happened.

So anyways, it's out! And I'm posting an actual reply instead of just editing the first post because I wanted to explain my choice of the next faction : it's the one I see as the direct opposite to my first one (Inferno) : Sanctuary!

Sanctuary? What about angels vs demons?

That's a christian thing. Christianity doesn't exist in Ashan. TBH angels are obsessed over shadows in this world, not demons.

So Sanctuary. I feel it's the exact opposite of inferno for a few reasons. First off philosophically. Demons incarnate absolute freedom, in a very anarchistic way. Nagas, on the other hand, follow a rule on everything, even on how to say "Hi". They have a very rigid structure directing most aspects of their life, while demons are about as unstructured as peoples can get.
Militarily, I read somewhere in this forum that Sanctuary has the most creature synergies, while Inferno has the least. Seems like they are direct opposites in military philosophy as well.
Finally, there's also the fire/water thing going on. Kind of an obvious one.

So that's about it for me. Gonna put the link to the Sanctuary townscreen showcase here, but it'll also be in the original post, like every future ones as well. I'll also try to keep the pattern of opposites going, although maybe not all factions are going to fit quite as well as these. I'll try, we'll see what happens. You could try and guess which one is next! The trickiest one is past us (wish I'd had this idea earlier huh), so maybe it's not as much of a challenge, but still. First one to guess it right is gonna have his/her name in the video description, how about that!
Cheers for making the waiting time actually interesting! Although just getting it right would be too easy. Would only last 3 posts (one for each remaining faction). Hmmm. First one to get it right with the correct reason why (or well, closest to what I'm thinking) wins! So it's not just speed, you have to think about it. Who knows, if your writing is so excellent, it might even influence what I'm thinking, and then you'd almost auto-win, wouldn't you? Then again, I doubt you'll make me change my mind, but still. This could be fun.
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alcibiades
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posted July 28, 2012 10:03 PM

Thanx, must say I find Sanctuary to be extremely well done. Very pretty and atmospheric.
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posted July 28, 2012 11:15 PM
Edited by Elvin at 23:17, 28 Jul 2012.

Much appreciated, your work is splendid

Btw Ashan does not have clear opposites as there are often more than one matchups that fit the bill. For instance you could argue that dark elves are the opposite of dwarves, light vs dark, sturdy vs graceful but at the same time elves are their nemesis. Inferno's archenemy is thematically necro as in Ashan they are the embodiment of order. But like you said sanctuary also looks like their polar opposite and wizards in H5 were their opposite on many respects.

If I had to guess.. You're going for necro! Since you are going for opposites and you started with inferno you are probably going for an evil faction. And I've always considered stronghold as more of a neutral faction than anyone's opposite.
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Simpelicity
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posted July 29, 2012 12:59 AM
Edited by Simpelicity at 01:01, 29 Jul 2012.

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Much appreciated, your work is splendid

Btw Ashan does not have clear opposites as there are often more than one matchups that fit the bill. For instance you could argue that dark elves are the opposite of dwarves, light vs dark, sturdy vs graceful but at the same time elves are their nemesis. Inferno's archenemy is thematically necro as in Ashan they are the embodiment of order. But like you said sanctuary also looks like their polar opposite and wizards in H5 were their opposite on many respects.

If I had to guess.. You're going for necro! Since you are going for opposites and you started with inferno you are probably going for an evil faction. And I've always considered stronghold as more of a neutral faction than anyone's opposite.


I'm well aware this is very subjective. That's why it is much fun in my mind. Let's pick some aspects of of two factions and show them as opposites. But then other people might pick other aspects of other factions, and it still kinda works. All fun and games.

Also, what I am doing and more importantly the way I do it complete disproves any claim of a clear opposite. I say Sanctuary is the opposite of demons. Then I ask you to find the next one, keeping in mind it's still the opposite. Considering this way each faction has 2 "opposites", none of them has a clear one. It all goes in one giant circle (because I do intend to close out the circle with inferno being the "opposite" of the last faction).

I'd also like to add that much like there are no clear opposites, neither are there good/evil factions. The closest there is to "good" are often senseless fanatics (and the final boss of this game, I might add. There's a giant demon invasion and everything but nope, the greatest threat is "good"). As for evil, demons are the closest, but really technically speaking they aren't. They are brutal, a lot of them love breaking things or inflicting pain, but they're not all about that. The Legion of Proliferation and the Legion of Lust are there to disprove that.

For those wondering where the hell the Legion of Lust comes from, that's what I call Kiril's legion. I mean, what does he do at the end of the campaign? He retires with 2 women! Who knows how many there are now? I totally figured out what his Legion was right there. The Legion of Lust. Bring on the women.... err succubi. We're in hell after all. Let's have fun!
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posted July 30, 2012 11:20 AM

I am confused. I am supposed to find an opposite to inferno or sanctuary then? In the first case I'd stick with necro. In the second.. probably stronghold since they are highly offensive than defensive, they are about mobility as opposed to hindering the movement of others, they are more reckless than organized.
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posted July 30, 2012 12:12 PM

The faction opposites are

Haven - Inferno
Academy - Necropolis
Light Elves - Dark Elves

I believe that was officially posted somewhere, before Dwarves, Orcs and Naga.
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posted July 30, 2012 12:50 PM

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The faction opposites are

Haven - Inferno
Academy - Necropolis
Light Elves - Dark Elves

I believe that was officially posted somewhere, before Dwarves, Orcs and Naga.

Which was indeed the case when HeroesV vanilla came out. When Ashan wasn't deepened/retconned as it is today. When it was still something they tried out.
That's the thing nowadays, there is no black and white division anymore, as Elvin correctly stated. You can opose many factions against one another with reasonable arguments, but none of them are the be all to end all.
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posted July 30, 2012 12:52 PM

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The faction opposites are

Haven - Inferno
Academy - Necropolis
Light Elves - Dark Elves

I believe that was officially posted somewhere, before Dwarves, Orcs and Naga.

You meant Inferno vs. Everyone, right ?

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posted July 30, 2012 03:31 PM

I once played as warlock vs a Stronghold, the results were no laughing matter, I was annihilated so bad that I cried myself to sleep. it was  2 warlocks too (id est 3 of us)
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posted July 30, 2012 05:42 PM

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I once played as warlock vs a Stronghold, the results were no laughing matter, I was annihilated so bad that I cried myself to sleep. it was  2 warlocks too (id est 3 of us)

That hardly makes any sense.

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You meant Inferno vs. Everyone, right ?

Not entirely. Even in HeroesV vanilla Dark Elves had a tendency to side with the demons and there is constant talk of demon/chaos cults within Haven and Academy lands.

But as far as the shades of grey go. I think you could come up with 2 or more factions for every faction that they oppose for one reason or another. As is now, I think with the current 9 factions things can be put reasonally ballanced by using the D&D Alignment system.

Though I'm still hoping for a 10th swamp-lizard faction, but I doubt that will happen before Heroes 7.
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posted July 30, 2012 06:01 PM
Edited by Tsar-Ivor at 18:21, 30 Jul 2012.

Orcs receive massive and frankly annoying anti magic abilities, like the more spell-power your hero has, the less the enemy, which practically halved (if not more) my spell effectiveness. Second the blood rage abilities are so overpowered, they absorbed everything I threw at them. Then as Elves I annihilated the orcs without trouble, elven tactic consists of defend archers and mages, whatever the cost, and the avenger ability is soooo sweet.



I'm not very gullible, but when the Sovereign claimed that he doesn't want to conquer ashan but have a place in the world, I actually felt pity for the demons and their plight.
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"gain a foothold on Ashan, and expose, if not impose, his people’s right to an equal place amongst the children of the Dragon Gods".


Sure the lesser demons can't deny their own nature (why would they want to?) but under strong leadership they could find peace I think.

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posted July 30, 2012 06:57 PM

well the demons have been imprisoned for millenia so I think its understandable that they want to break out and form their own nation
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posted July 30, 2012 07:36 PM
Edited by Tsar-Ivor at 19:36, 30 Jul 2012.

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well the demons have been imprisoned for millenia so I think its understandable that they want to break out and form their own nation


I was under the impression that the common view of demons breaking out is not to form a country, but set Ashan aflame. (and subdue/break every nation to their will)
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