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posted August 28, 2012 01:19 PM |
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Doomforge# Maybe i've not testet it enough then?. I have only tried it because i had an armor that cast a level 6 fissure when struck. 10% chance i think. But that didn't hit them, most of the times 
It would work much better if you targeted the spell yourself 
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posted August 28, 2012 09:42 PM |
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it should be pointed out that despite what people say, Diablo 2 lacks endgame content as much as Diablo 3 does.
Killed Baal? Well, guess what, there's nothing else to do. Uber tristram? not possible solo for most chars, and not even possible at all in single player.
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posted August 29, 2012 09:40 AM |
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EvilLoynis# I know that ;p But that wasnt my question ;p But anyhow, OhForSake answered it pretty well. Thx anyway 
Doomforge# I do have 2 resets with my druid.. Would you recommend building a fissure/armageddon druid instead of wind druid?
OhForSake# So many words describing one single thing.. But i see your point, and i must admit i'm using ATMA for sharing between characters. (And sometimes accidently copy runes  heh)
I asked on another forum, and got this reply:
For Sorc, Go for CoH, Mara, BK, Magefist, Spider, ElOrb, and a Circlet with at least 2 sorc skill levels. Some Charms with tab skills. And make a Shield with 3 PF Diamonds for Res.
Aaand, that sounds to me very helpfull, but how the flower do i get all those items ?!?? They doesn't show up that easy..
Spidermesh requires level 80 god garden it..
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posted August 29, 2012 11:12 AM |
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If you have already beaten normal or at least made it to act four, then no. Fire dudu sucks in general - he's just faster on normal mode armageddon is one of the most disappointing spells in the whole game.
as for items - most people simply trade on battle.net, if you're playing single player then you're limited to what you find.
And besides, Eldritch Orb? Wtf. Go HotO if we're talking about late game gear
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posted August 30, 2012 06:38 PM |
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Disapointing I had hoped it was a good skill.. It requires all elemental skills to be accesed 
I'm not on battlenet, but we are 6 people hwo shares and plays together LAN with Hamachi.
Hmm, I do have a the runes for a hoto staff ;p Just need the damn staff with 4 sockets :S But, hoto gives only 3 skills and takes up both hands. Eldritch Orb delivers the same, where you still is able to carry a +1 - +2 skills shield? (If they eksist)
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posted August 30, 2012 08:02 PM |
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Disapointing I had hoped it was a good skill.. It requires all elemental skills to be accesed
I'm not on battlenet, but we are 6 people hwo shares and plays together LAN with Hamachi.
Hmm, I do have a the runes for a hoto staff ;p Just need the damn staff with 4 sockets :S But, hoto gives only 3 skills and takes up both hands. Eldritch Orb delivers the same, where you still is able to carry a +1 - +2 skills shield? (If they eksist)
For most classes +skills on shields are rare (Except for Necro heads and Pally shields).
Also remember Hoto (Heart of the Oak Runeword) can be put in a 4 socket Flail this is actually the best thing to put it in as it's a caster runeword so you don't need to worry about physical/melee damage. The only reason to put it in a Stave is if your a Sorc and find a good NON Magical 4os stave with good +skills.
Sigons Guard (Shield) also gives +1 to all skills and is quite easy/cheap to get but Lidless Wall is a really good caster shield as it gives +1 skills and also +20% Faster Cast as well as mana after each kill. Spirit is probably best if you can get ladder only runewords for casters as it's +2 skills and FCR.
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posted August 30, 2012 09:23 PM |
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Hmm, I do have a the runes for a hoto staff ;p Just need the damn staff with 4 sockets :S But, hoto gives only 3 skills and takes up both hands. Eldritch Orb delivers the same, where you still is able to carry a +1 - +2 skills shield? (If they eksist)
You're supposed to make HotO in a one handed weapon, like a flail.
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posted August 30, 2012 11:32 PM |
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Aaah, i see :S Flail ofcourse heh.
And then as Loynis says: Lidless Wall So, hoto flail and lidless wall shield would be the best? Even if Eldritch Orb gives an ekstra skill than hoto? Its for my sorc, so i dont engage in battle.. EDIT# I just realised hoto gives +3 skills too :S sorry.
Then hoto flail and lidless shield Unless you can do it without the +skill on the shield, and go for Sanctuary RuneWord
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posted August 31, 2012 12:28 AM |
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Unless you can do it without the +skill on the shield
Do what? I am not certain what you mean by "it". I don't know if you've seen it, but I've tried to hint at that diablo is typical played in 2 different ways.
One is a hoarding type of game, where you play for getting more items to decorate your toons. Kind of like playing with barbie-dolls I suppose. Except in stead of buying the clothes you want, you've to run to the store, then choose a packet at random, beat it open and see if you're lucky. If not, return home and run to the store again.
Another is to merely play to beat the game, i.e. defeat baal at hell mode. To do so, you don't need to aim for high end items, such as HotO, specific uniques, etc.
There will be a small range of items you're pretty much certain to run across, some of these will help your character a lot, but even without any of these, when you play in a group, it's completely possible to get through the game without any kind of item hunting.
E.g. let's take Andariel at normal. Anyone can beat her, but the difference between someone who's prepared and someone who just runs down and have a go at her, is that the person who's prepared will likely shop for gloves+belt/helm+boots with 25% poison length reduced, see if it's possible to get +30% posion resist from an off-source and drink 10 antidotes (duration 5 min.) before enganging Andariel, while even still adding a coloumn in the belt for antidotes for this fight.
The difference is that the prepared guy will never get defeated by Andariel, unless he's like level 4, while the one who just runs down to her and tries to wack at her will experience a loss of 40-60% life from her poison attack in one go, forcing a lot of health drinking, despite being as high a level as level 12 when facing her.
That's generally the difference of equipting yourself with items which can make a difference, which you're ensured to find, compared to just go forward unprepared, but it's not the same as getting stuff like high-end runewords before even contemplating playing.
You wrote yourself that the spider sash (elite unique belt) requires around level 80, when you play in a group of 6 people, you'll most likely not hit level 80 before mid to late hell. That means you can in reality only count on this item for 1/6th of the game, at most. And that's asuming you actually have this item at all.
Now I don't know the purpose behind playing the game is, I mean it's obviously for the fun of it, but I don't know what kind of gameplay constitutes "fun" for you.
If the entire ordeal is about to defeat the game with your friends and you merely will be as prepared as possible, then I suggest you look at the items you already have and then include the possibility of all runewords which requires mal and less for hell difficulty, lem and less for nightmare diff., and finally thul and less for normal diff. Everything else, if you don't already have it, set items as well as uniques, aren't items you can count on finding unless you're prepared to maybe spend weeks doing repeatedly magic find runs.
Runewords I found very useful when playing a sorc where stuff like nadir for cloak of shadows and smoke for the +50% all resist on an armor. Together with a good resist shield. Giving a merc insight (not likely to happen before early nightmare) will help with any mana problems you may have. I never got to wear a spirit shield, as it requires a 4 socketed shield and that means a high str. requiretment as a monarch is the lowest str. req. shield which can have 4 sockets and isn't paladin-only.
Stealth is also pretty good to begin with, because you won't be teleporting a lot at first (+25% faster run/walk) and it'll let you cast a little faster as well.
There are many simple things like these which can be looked at and figured out, but it's too long ago to really remember the specifics, I am not aware how much you already know and I think it's pretty easy to figure out for oneself. Simple stuff, such as always buy extra potions you've in your inventory, pick up staves and wands early as they give you a lot of gold, so you can have a tome of tp's and id's already from before quest 2, etc. etc.
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posted August 31, 2012 01:46 AM |
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I know ;p I do play only to get the best equipments.. Me and one of those i game with, tries to get our sorcereses as strong as possible. Its kinda waste of time :S I can easily beat Baal at Hell alone now, but im aiming for takin Baal down on Hell with Players 8 typed in ;P The storyline is boring, so the only thing left to do is leveling up every build i have to be able to take down a level 8 hell baal 
About the prepared and the rusher: Usually the Antidotes helps alot here together with your hireling ;P But i do see your point. But if you go for prepared equipments you just end up with using all your gold on it. I'd rather invest in skill equipments ;P
And about the high level equipments: Yes, and 1/6 of the game isn't much :S I hate the fact that i know is stupid and a waste of life/time to find high level equipments.. I guess its a kind of an addiction? A stupid addiction if so. (THANK YOU FOR MAKING ME REALISE THAT  heh) - (And its not meant as an insult, but a thanks)
As you say, i guess i depends on what way you like to game.
Go through normal, nightmare and hell and then quit it.
Item find through boss runs and such after Hell i beaten.
Or just do it Borderlands style. Every time you find a better weapon, play and kick ass until you find even better.
Well fun gameplay in my universe is a Good story, combined with lots of possibities and choices. a GTA Skyrim lord of destruction FPS RPG..
Open World without a linear story, like GTA and SKyrim, Where you can choose between lots of skills like Skyrim and Diablo II, Combined with huge badass bosses like Diablo II and most RPG's, and the whole thing should be viewed in First Person, and contain a fantastic story.
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posted August 31, 2012 09:23 AM |
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Are you looking forward to GTA V then?
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posted August 31, 2012 10:20 AM |
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Not especially, no. I might check it out sometime after it's released, but it's not really on my mind.
EDIT: Since this is a diablo 2 thread, please forgive me for not continueing a topic for another game.
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posted September 01, 2012 12:38 AM |
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After you get good at the game, Diablo 2 is a lot more interesting in Hardcore Mode. It's really the best way to play imho.
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posted September 01, 2012 03:09 PM |
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After you get good at the game, Diablo 2 is a lot more interesting in Hardcore Mode. It's really the best way to play imho.
It's really not worth it to not play Hard Core now for me. Although it does suck when you get your char upto 90ish to die 
For all of those that want a bit more of a challenge playing Single Player mode you can make the monsters tougher and give more exp by letting the computer think there are more players in the game.
Todo this you type without quotes "/players #" with # being from 1-8. Each player over 1 increases monster life and exp by 50% (100% - 450% with 8 players).
Doing this can easily let you reach level 20-24 by doing the Act2 TalRashas tombs and Sanctuary.
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posted September 01, 2012 03:19 PM |
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You can get easily to level 24 on players 1 doing tomb runs, too
In fact, every time I played the game, I had level 25 at the start of act III normal (played on battle.net).
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posted September 03, 2012 11:10 PM |
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Hehe, maybe i cheated, but i found a Rainbow Facet Jewel that gives +5% Cold Skill Damage.. So, i "accidently" copied it three times in Atma :S
Buuut, 4 of these beauties is so awesome in a 4 socket Ward Shield
So the Shield gives: +20% Cold Skill Damage.
Together with a damn lot of plus skills items
I'm kinda proud of my Frozen Orb ;p 731-764 damage per shard
Aaand a Firewall that delivers atm, 20388-20561 damage per second
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posted September 04, 2012 01:02 AM |
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Man. I miss Diablo 2. I was the third one to get to 99 ladder season 3. I wasted so much of my time on that game, and was richer than your wildest fastasies. Ugh. Can we go back in time, and convince blizzard to remake D3 so it's... better?
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posted September 04, 2012 01:05 AM |
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Man. I miss Diablo 2. I was the third one to get to 99 ladder season 3. I wasted so much of my time on that game, and was richer than your wildest fastasies. Ugh. Can we go back in time, and convince blizzard to remake D3 so it's... better?
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posted September 04, 2012 07:46 AM |
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Hehe, maybe i cheated, but i found a Rainbow Facet Jewel that gives +5% Cold Skill Damage.. So, i "accidently" copied it three times in Atma :S
Buuut, 4 of these beauties is so awesome in a 4 socket Ward Shield
of course that is a no good cheat.
It's one thing to let all your characters have access to the same storage and quite another to Dupe runes.
The reason I don't consider the item xfer and storage sharing to really be cheating is the fact that there is 7 different character types and it's ridiculously difficult to complete a "Set" for one of them when pieces from all 7 characters sets drop at equal rates. I mean shouldn't sorc's have a better chance to get sorc only gear? and Necros necro only gear?, that would just be right to me.
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posted September 04, 2012 09:06 AM |
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I know! I'm a bad person... I feel terrible now... But So Much Damage... I.. I.. I cant resist.. I have to freeze burn everyone!!!
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I mean shouldn't sorc's have a better chance to get sorc only gear? and Necros necro only gear?, that would just be right to me.
100% agree with you
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