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SepSpring


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posted August 19, 2012 01:55 AM

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WTF!?!? How can you say that? On the contrary, Limbic (at least so far, hope it changes) has failed MISERABLY and TOTALLy in fixing bugs!!!
I am not sure who released 1.3, but I think it wasn't Limbic yet.
Then patch 1.4 had ZERO bugs fixed. Patch 1.5 fixed 1-2 minor obscure bugs, and did not fix any of the major bugs, and introduced 2-3+ NEW bugs! Utter failure - I hope 1.6 is better.

NOTE: Limbic just changed balance and game mechanics mostly, so far. I hope the next patches get better in the BUG fixing respect.

OK, maybe you're right, sorry. I just have to add that during the last several months my interest in "Heroes VI" decreased strongly. As a result, I started playing this game less, so I didn't manage to pay enough attention to old bugs being fixed and new ones added. Nevertheless, to my mind, new town and fort screens are horrible. That's why I think that "Limbic" shouldn't be responsible for making an expansion, they shouldn't even be involved in this process. Of course, I understand that "Black Hole" are gone forever, but I also remember all the models in the game created by Hungarians, and they are brilliant. The graphical part of "Heroes VI" is excellent, and, unfortunately, "Limbic" aren't able to achieve such results (just look at these terrible screens).

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posted August 19, 2012 02:09 AM

1. Afaik Black Hole didn't create the models and art.

2. I'm pretty sure it wasn't the Limbic guys that sat in photoshop and drew the town screens either. Though personally, I think most of them look great.
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posted August 19, 2012 07:29 AM

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OK, maybe you're right, sorry. I just have to add that during the last several months my interest in "Heroes VI" decreased strongly. As a result, I started playing this game less, so I didn't manage to pay enough attention to old bugs being fixed and new ones added. Nevertheless, to my mind, new town and fort screens are horrible. That's why I think that "Limbic" shouldn't be responsible for making an expansion, they shouldn't even be involved in this process. Of course, I understand that "Black Hole" are gone forever, but I also remember all the models in the game created by Hungarians, and they are brilliant. The graphical part of "Heroes VI" is excellent, and, unfortunately, "Limbic" aren't able to achieve such results (just look at these terrible screens).


I have some bad infromation for you.. You are wrong in several points. espetial when it comes to "What Black hole actually did"

Black hole was responcible only for making the game actually work.
The 3D Models have been oden by Puppetworks, Hungary. And the concept art by 3 mages studios, Hungary-Slovakai. So yes the graphical part of the game was done by Hungarians, but not the same as the ones that did the code, these companies are still alive and working and there is only one ot two problems that must be overpased for them to work again on the project (Their time and Ubis money).

Point two: As far as Limbic goes. Yes they have introduce some bugs. But I think not all of them are their work. I think most of them have been in the game but we just did not notice it, due to the fact that we did not focuse on them, now the bigger bugs are gone, we see them. For Example Limbic managed to fix the faster movement faster sound bug that BH actually called a feature and/or unfixable.

Point three: After the last patches the game is faster more stable. That is not my opinion, but a fact I have been reading as a community leader. And when it comes to buggs. 20% are just people who do not know the mechanics and are to lazy to read about them. So when they think something does not work, its automaticaly a bug. 30% are graphical based buges from which 20% are related to the users system (Bad card, no new ubdates etc.)or the results of people being spoild (Like OMG there is a leaf in my camera!!! And that unit did not play its hit animation when it got hit, but 0,5s later!!!) and are not connected to the game, but to stupid players. 30% are numeral bugs. values that even you and I could correct if we had a day trial with the sysetem.
Only 20% of the things that people report as Bugs are true bugs and only a few of them are major, and I am not aware of any Gamebreaking bugs at the moment. If you are, give me an example.  

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Naki


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posted August 19, 2012 11:42 AM
Edited by Naki at 12:09, 19 Aug 2012.

Dave_Jame, NO!!
I am dealing with Heroes VI bugs since release.
Many (most) of these bugs are from version 1.2 onward, some even older.
I know what a bug is when I see it (I work as tech support/tester), you can see the list of bugs in the Patch 1.5.2 bugs thread (of course, not a full bug list, I got tired of re-posting old bugs into the new threads, so some 1.3/1.4 bugs did not make it into my 1.5.2 bugs list, although they still exist)!!
Yes, most of these bugs do allow playing the game, that part is correct.

Now, you said to quote bugs that would block/prevent playing.
This would be Campaign bugs, I think.
For example, some screens that appear have buttons you can't click on, thus you are stuck (for example, the game expecting you to have Tears or Blood (and you have the opposite)). And, some players report the game freezing on the AI turn, thus are you stuck again (Stronghold campaign).

And no, I don't agree bugs are not their work!!
For example:
1) Despair increases Morale instead of decreasing it.
2) When buying artifacts from the Advanced Market, you no longer see if the artifacts require Magic or Might or a certain faction. You COULD see that in older versions.
3) I am not playing Necro now, but they say Vampires are broken, and become invulnerable in certain circumstances.
4) Racial gauge is broken for at least 1-2 factions. Was not the case before, or at least if it was, it was broken for less factions than it is now.
5) Using Haven's Statue of Revelation (may be not exact name) breaks scrolling the map, so you can no longer scroll. This was fine before.
ALL of these bugs were introduced in the LATEST patches.

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posted August 19, 2012 11:54 AM

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Dave_Jame, NO!!
I am dealing with Heroes VI bugs since release.
Many (most) of these bugs are from version 1.2 onward, some even older.
I know what a bug is when I see it (I work as tech support/tester), you can see the list of bugs in the Patch 1.5.2 bugs thread (of course, not a full bug list, I got tired of re-posting old bugs into the new threads, so some 1.3/1.4 bugs did not make it into my 1.5.2 bugs list, although they still exist)!!
Yes, most of these bugs do allow playing the game, that part is correct.

Now, you said to quote bugs that would block/prevent playing.
This would be Campaign bugs, I think.
For example, some screens that appear have buttons you can't click on, thus you are stuck (for example, the game expecting you to have Tears or Blood (and you have the opposite). And, some players report the game freezing on the AI turn, thus are you stuck again (Stronghold campaign).

And no, I don't agree bugs are not their work!!
For example:
1) Despair increases Morale instead of decreasing it.
2) When buying artifacts from the Advanced Market, you no longer see if the artifacts require Magic or Might or a certain faction. You COULD see that in older versions.
3) I am not playing Necro now, but they say Vampires are broken, and become invulnerable in certain circumstances.
4) Racial gauge is broken for at least 1-2 factions. Was not the case before, or at least if it was, it was broken for less factions than it is now.
ALL of these bugs were introduces in the LATEST patches.


The example you have given of the stronghold campaigne has been fixed some patches ago.. I know this I sufferd from it and I know it works now.
And onwards
1) one numerical figure is not a major bug. Sorry but No. It should be fixed but is it a gamebreaker? well yes f you go for despire based strategy.
2) This would go under the category "Spoild stupid gamers" (nothing personal) when people are to lazy to remember prox 100 artifacts and less
3) Gamebreaking bug one aknowladged.. you have one.. any more?
4) If you would read and test those bugs you would know that these Broaken gauges are not general but due to specific situations like campaingne maps. And niether of them prevents you from playing the game, so again no gamebreaker.

The game is bugged yes. But not in such a way it was befor Limbic got the code. And even more it is balanced in a much better way.
If you work as a software tester, you should now what are major bugs and what are cosmetical details...
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Naki


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posted August 19, 2012 12:08 PM
Edited by Naki at 12:09, 19 Aug 2012.

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Dave_Jame, NO!!
I am dealing with Heroes VI bugs since release.
Many (most) of these bugs are from version 1.2 onward, some even older.
I know what a bug is when I see it (I work as tech support/tester), you can see the list of bugs in the Patch 1.5.2 bugs thread (of course, not a full bug list, I got tired of re-posting old bugs into the new threads, so some 1.3/1.4 bugs did not make it into my 1.5.2 bugs list, although they still exist)!!
Yes, most of these bugs do allow playing the game, that part is correct.

Now, you said to quote bugs that would block/prevent playing.
This would be Campaign bugs, I think.
For example, some screens that appear have buttons you can't click on, thus you are stuck (for example, the game expecting you to have Tears or Blood (and you have the opposite). And, some players report the game freezing on the AI turn, thus are you stuck again (Stronghold campaign).




The example you have given of the stronghold campaigne has been fixed some patches ago.. I know this I sufferd from it and I know it works now.


Are they both fixed?? The unable to click buttons, AND game freezes on AI turn? I am pretty sure the "game freezes on AI's turn" bug was mentioned in the last 1-2 weeks in the official game forums, so maybe it is still there (I believe, Sharka mission).

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Naki
Naki


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posted August 19, 2012 12:12 PM

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Dave_Jame, NO!!
I am dealing with Heroes VI bugs since release.
Many (most) of these bugs are from version 1.2 onward, some even older.
I know what a bug is when I see it (I work as tech support/tester), you can see the list of bugs in the Patch 1.5.2 bugs thread (of course, not a full bug list, I got tired of re-posting old bugs into the new threads, so some 1.3/1.4 bugs did not make it into my 1.5.2 bugs list, although they still exist)!!
Yes, most of these bugs do allow playing the game, that part is correct.





The game is bugged yes. But not in such a way it was befor Limbic got the code. And even more it is balanced in a much better way.
If you work as a software tester, you should now what are major bugs and what are cosmetical details...

OK, I agree with that - I like most of the balancing changes too, for example being able to cast Mass Heal and Mass Regen more than once per battle, and the boost to direct damage spells.

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posted August 19, 2012 12:37 PM
Edited by Dave_Jame at 12:59, 19 Aug 2012.

You know Naki. The problem is that 70% of the users of the game are "fools" who barly even know how to complain.

Example 1: You encouter a person stating that the game s broken. Angry voice vulgar language etc. You ask them why. He tells you that "My DW does not keep the Exp. it gets", "I cant get pass one dialog in Stronghold map 2." etc Then you ask them what version of the game they play, What patch they use and their hardware characteristics.
10 minuts later you know that you are dealing with a Pirat who downloaded the game from an "I do not know" server/torent did not pach the game and does not know a thing about it. But his brainwashed spoild ego never even thought about it being a problem he could create by his actions, or slove by logic. And I do belive that these people are those who voice the insults at any subject i this project in the laudest voice.
Example 2: one of the most common "Bugs" people were talikng about, and I had to explain it several times, was the "The cyclops does not die when I kill him". They have found a web/forum, manage to register on it, write down this sentence in a grammaticaly correct way and still they were not able to Read a stupid tooltip of one creature. So if you tell me that there are "People" complaining about the games bugs etc. it means a good damned hell to me. Unless the person can show me, a Screenshot, explain how the bug happend and actually reconstruct it in such a way that shows where the problem is.

An example of how I understand a bug report should be treated could be seen in the 1,5,2 bug topic where I explained why some features lose their effect, and when does it happen. Now they know how to reproduce it and have a hint on how to solve it.
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posted August 19, 2012 01:04 PM

Yes, I am playing the game slowly, meaning I played some missions with 1.1.1 patch, some with 1.2 and so on (for example, a friend of mine finished the game back in November and I haven't yet) and I checked the forums IN ADVANCE for any such bugs, and found out about the Stronghold suggestion to NOT level up to Tears/Blood I before that screen/scene, and thus I avoided that bug. But some people are too lazy to check any forums, and start complaining...

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posted August 19, 2012 01:26 PM
Edited by blob2 at 13:31, 19 Aug 2012.

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Unless the person can show me, a Screenshot, explain how the bug happend and actually reconstruct it in such a way that shows where the problem is.


Sorry but how can I show you an AI game crash or town screen freezing bug on a screenshot? And those are game breakers, because I'm quite fed up with restarting the game a couple of times a day. Thank god I disabled cloud sync because each time I had to wait for it before restarting the game. And no, those are not system specific bugs, because my system specs are just right, I have the newest drivers etc. And if I remember correctly, I didn't have AI crashes before patch 1.4, and town screens didn't exist. Also I don't know if not working unit ability is a game breaker but the fact is that bugs like Blazing Glory or Archlich ability bugs are not fixed a year after the games release (if devs are speaking the truth in 1.7 those will be finally fixed).

I agree that many players are to quick to judge about something being a bug without reading a description first etc. But don't tell me that H6 is a stable game because it's not. Actually it's one of the most bugged and unstable games I have ever played (Heroes 5 being very high on the list). I tested it on three computers, one laptop and two PC's and the crashes were frequent. True, many bugs were fixed, but the game is now (after almost a year) in a state in which most of the games are from their release date, and in those games case, the process of bugfixing is just starting. It's only my sentiment to the series (and it's formula, I'm a turn-based games fan) and artistic side of the game which kept me so long to it.

Oh, and one more thing. As a gamer I have the right to enjoy my game. I simply don't have time and willingness to analyze why the game crashing bug exist in a game that should work. If my specs are alright and drivers up to date, the game is supposed to work. I don't give a crap if, theoretically, my game card is one of the few that have a problem with this game.  My laptop is a common model, so I think that it's configured optimally for any game which fulfills the system requirements. The PC's also have the right specs. Most of the games which I play run smoothly without any problems. And Heroes 6 is not such a game...

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posted August 19, 2012 04:14 PM
Edited by Naki at 16:14, 19 Aug 2012.

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Dave_Jame, NO!!
I am dealing with Heroes VI bugs since release.
Many (most) of these bugs are from version 1.2 onward, some even older.
I know what a bug is when I see it (I work as tech support/tester), you can see the list of bugs in the Patch 1.5.2 bugs thread (of course, not a full bug list, I got tired of re-posting old bugs into the new threads, so some 1.3/1.4 bugs did not make it into my 1.5.2 bugs list, although they still exist)!!
Yes, most of these bugs do allow playing the game, that part is correct.

Now, you said to quote bugs that would block/prevent playing.

And no, I don't agree bugs are not their work!!
For example:
2) When buying artifacts from the Advanced Market, you no longer see if the artifacts require Magic or Might or a certain faction. You COULD see that in older versions.

ALL of these bugs were introduces in the LATEST patches.


And onwards
2) This would go under the category "Spoild stupid gamers" (nothing personal) when people are to lazy to remember prox 100 artifacts and less
If you work as a software tester, you should now what are major bugs and what are cosmetical details...

NO! Patches 1.1.1, 1.2, 1.3 and maybe even 1.4 (not sure) had this correctly - WHY break it? I don't see any sense in that!

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posted August 19, 2012 04:16 PM

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Unless the person can show me, a Screenshot, explain how the bug happend and actually reconstruct it in such a way that shows where the problem is.


Sorry but how can I show you an AI game crash or town screen freezing bug on a screenshot?

Um, some players reported an FREEZE/Lockup on the AI's turn, not a crash - meaning the AI turn bar never completes and the human player turn never comes. And, you can always make a video - there a number of ways to do that (Fraps/XFire/etc), and then post it on YouTube or any other such web site.

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posted August 19, 2012 04:48 PM
Edited by blob2 at 16:53, 19 Aug 2012.

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Um, some players reported an FREEZE/Lockup on the AI's turn, not a crash - meaning the AI turn bar never completes and the human player turn never comes. And, you can always make a video - there a number of ways to do that (Fraps/XFire/etc), and then post it on YouTube or any other such web site.


Like I said I don't have time for this. Firstly, solving such a problem takes a lot of time (sending system logs, configurations etc.) and I am certain it will not bring any solution. Secondly, Ubi's support helpfulness is "legendary" at this moment. It's not worth it. This is absolutely a problem with the games stability, I have played many games and I know what I'm seeing. A game crash is a game crash. Not a freeze. And it's only one "aspect" of crashing. Entering towns also crashes the game sometimes for me. I also read the forums, I've seen many players complain about the games stability so I have different conclusion from you: there is definitely a problem with the games stability. If you don't have such problems, well, lucky you.

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posted August 19, 2012 05:02 PM

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Like I said I don't have time for this. Firstly, solving such a problem takes a lot of time (sending system logs, configurations etc.) and I am certain it will not bring any solution. Secondly, Ubi's support helpfulness is "legendary" at this moment. It's not worth it. This is absolutely a problem with the games stability, I have played many games and I know what I'm seeing. A game crash is a game crash. Not a freeze. And it's only one "aspect" of crashing. Entering towns also crashes the game sometimes for me. I also read the forums, I've seen many players complain about the games stability so I have different conclusion from you: there is definitely a problem with the games stability. If you don't have such problems, well, lucky you.

You have time to prove me that I'm wrong... take part in a discussion that spreads over several hours and YOU DO NOT HAVE THE TIME TO FIGURE OUT HOW ONE OR TWO THINGS HAPPENED????

Sorry but this is a tipical example of the spoiled gamer that I was talking about. If he does not have the time or need to think about his game. Not only what is the best tactic, but also what went wrong at wich part, then Heroes is not the game for him, and maybe he should focus on something less complicated and complex, like 3Dshooters or packman.

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posted August 19, 2012 06:13 PM
Edited by blob2 at 18:32, 19 Aug 2012.

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You have time to prove me that I'm wrong... take part in a discussion that spreads over several hours and YOU DO NOT HAVE THE TIME TO FIGURE OUT HOW ONE OR TWO THINGS HAPPENED????

Sorry but this is a tipical example of the spoiled gamer that I was talking about. If he does not have the time or need to think about his game. Not only what is the best tactic, but also what went wrong at wich part, then Heroes is not the game for him, and maybe he should focus on something less complicated and complex, like 3Dshooters or packman.


You know what, I'm quite fed up with you. If I'm a typical spoiled gamer, then you are a typical FANBOY. No matter what anybody says you will still protect the game like it's your faith or something. This game is broken. Period. It's a fun game, it has potential, I like playing it (when I'm not haunted by bugs or crashes), but the game is BROKEN. I am reading the forums, I am not blind, 90% subjects are bug reports or problems with the game. The games code is broken so it gets a lot of crashes and freezes. And this is a fact. They (Limbic) are trying to make it better, and that is good. I am not a dev, I am not getting paid for maintaining the game, so I will not put my time and effort into this "why the game crashes" testing, only to get results which I already know (it crashes because it's code is unstable). Moreover I have paid for the game, so it's my right to make demands about it's quality. I've already swallowed much, because if I hadn't I would throw away this game couple of months ago wanting my money back. I'm fed up with reading how much time we must wait for each patch only to get more bugs after installing it, and waiting almost a year for a f*cking Blazing Glory ability to be fixed! You are a fan that will probably stay with the game until the end, so I praise your iron will. On the contrary I am loosing hope that Ubi will deliver a Heroes game that will show Heroes fans the love that they deserve, especially after looking at Gamescom's game list (with mainly online, player milking titles). I have already experienced it with H5, and H6 is no better. Maybe my expectations are to high, but so are expectations of many other Heroes fans...

And about spending my time and effort for Heroes 6. As you have seen in different topics, I've spend some time searching and writing about bugs, which I'm not obliged to do, only because I want someone like Elvin to deliver these information to the devs. So don't tell me that I'm not "spending my time for my game", because if it was of no importance to me, I would throw it to trash a couple of days after I bought it...

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posted August 19, 2012 06:26 PM

I think it's time to cool down the discussion in this thread. I don't think there was ever any rules about having to put a screenshot or a log or whatever in order to report a game issue on this board, and while it's nice when people do it, don't harass people for not doing it, many people including myself don't even know how to acieve those logs. And yes, people are frequently complaining over issues they wouldn't have had if they updated to latest patch - whoever made it - but if that's the case, let's just point them to it and focus on constructive things. I also think it's off-topic to this thread to waste too much time on who are responsible for what bugs and mistakes, so please stay on topic or I will close the thread.

And a PS to our newer members, please check the forum rules and guidelines, particularly when it comes to posting censored words.
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posted August 19, 2012 06:55 PM
Edited by Elvin at 18:56, 19 Aug 2012.

I do not remember if I have ever thanked you for bringing up all those bugs but you probably know I appreciate it all the same. Because I am all but certain that if we stopped reporting them some would never get fixed - in fact I have a feeling that all those persistent bugs that Astranor mentioned(Limbic guy) were brought up because we compiled them and I mentioned they should get the priority, having been neglected for so long. Perhaps they would have all been fixed eventually but having compiled them and notified Limbic a short time ago was probably not a coincidence.

And I very much appreciate Dave for taking his time and helping when possible but man, your anger often gets the better of you I have read some eye-popping material on more than a few occasions and wondered what is wrong with [Insert random poster]?  But the truth is that the average poster does not have time to read everything, will certainly not bother and chances are he will ask something that has been posted two lines above. Some will even start complaining that the game is dead because ubi did not say that the game will continue to be improved during this month. Which is not entirely paranoid given Ubi's history but.. seriously now. Regardless, that is no reason to generalize nor get personal and certainly not over something so trivial. Opinions come and go, they're free. Let's just be patient with each other, alright?
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posted August 19, 2012 07:15 PM
Edited by Naki at 20:24, 19 Aug 2012.

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I do not remember if I have ever thanked you for bringing up all those bugs but you probably know I appreciate it all the same. Because I am all but certain that if we stopped reporting them some would never get fixed - in fact I have a feeling that all those persistent bugs that Astranor mentioned(Limbic guy) were brought up because we compiled them and I mentioned they should get the priority, having been neglected for so long. Perhaps they would have all been fixed eventually but having compiled them and notified Limbic a short time ago was probably not a coincidence.



Elvin, I assume you know, but just a reminder:
There was a petition, which you can actually still vote for (the bugs or changes you wish to support), which was created by a bunch of Russian guys. You can vote (if you have not done it already) here:
Link for Survey voting
Voting for the Petition bugs/feature changes started on August 4th, and ends today (August 19th).

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posted August 19, 2012 07:21 PM

Well I might have crossed the line a bit few times today.. so sorry for that.. to all.

@blob2: I exuse my self fo my passive aggresion. I'm just used to give people "bad" examples on their personalities, it then brings up their deffensive atitude when they give more personal and creativ opinons. I actually might be a FanBoy, I never considered myself one, but I got called that few times now. Just beacuse I think the game ha sufferd enought of the hate aleready and my rage towards it hase long past to accepted waiting, what the result will be.

@alcibiades: I know there is no guidline how to report a bug, even if one would actually be nice, but i think it is better to tell more details if posible. Offcorce you cant give any more information o bugs like, "Despire adds moral instead of lowering it" but some more complicated one deserve a few seconds IMHO.

Back on topic
It is interesting that Limbic originaly wanted the fans to chose the the bugs that they should focuse on, Now it is more of a general Bug topic. but people still report rather trivial or constructiv bug. No balance issues with the exception of Glories and Vampires. So are people now Happy with balance.. or are these numeral bugs, ideas etc now more important then balance?

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posted August 19, 2012 08:19 PM

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I do not remember if I have ever thanked you for bringing up all those bugs but you probably know I appreciate it all the same. Because I am all but certain that if we stopped reporting them some would never get fixed - in fact I have a feeling that all those persistent bugs that Astranor mentioned(Limbic guy) were brought up because we compiled them and I mentioned they should get the priority, having been neglected for so long. Perhaps they would have all been fixed eventually but having compiled them and notified Limbic a short time ago was probably not a coincidence.



Elvin, I assume you know, but just a reminder:
There was a petition, which you can actually still vote for (the bugs or changes you wish to support), which was created by a bunch of Russian guys. You can vote (if you have not done it already) here:
Link for Survey voting
The petition sucks for a number of reasons.
At least that's my opinion.

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