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Elvin
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Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted September 25, 2012 09:50 AM |
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With 3 assassins, 4 sacrificial pits, 4 lightnings, 2 wasp swarms, 4 tainted orcs, 4 goblins, 2 cyclopes, 3 poisonous touch and 2 earthquakes my deck is developing nicely.
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JoonasTo
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Undefeatable Hero
What if Elvin was female?
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posted September 25, 2012 12:09 PM |
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Yet you still get your ass kicked by my 5 custom cards+ starter deck 
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JoonasTo
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What if Elvin was female?
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posted September 25, 2012 07:22 PM |
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We seem to be getting an update.
Also, I'm starting to hit the limits with my current cards. Lost a few battles simply because my deck is not strong enough.
Special heroes with +1 to all melee unit health, passive skill. Should play haven just for that.
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Adrius
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Undefeatable Hero
Stand and fight!
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posted September 25, 2012 07:32 PM |
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Edited by Adrius at 19:33, 25 Sep 2012.
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I have a Necro one that gives +1 health to all Incorporeal units.
As if ghosty units weren't annoying enough ^^
Oh and yeah, it just fixes a few bugs.
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JoonasTo
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Undefeatable Hero
What if Elvin was female?
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posted September 25, 2012 07:40 PM |
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That incorporeal Hp plus would be so great, If only I had more ghosts
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JoonasTo
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What if Elvin was female?
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posted September 25, 2012 08:23 PM |
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Adrius
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Stand and fight!
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posted September 25, 2012 08:35 PM |
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How does a creature called Enraged Cyclops not have Enraged?
Stronghold baffles me. So few creatures that actually have that skill.
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JoonasTo
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Undefeatable Hero
What if Elvin was female?
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posted September 25, 2012 08:41 PM |
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Imagine that with water damage enchantments 
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Adrius
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posted September 25, 2012 08:50 PM |
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Yeah icy blade would be insanely powerful on that one.
My fat Orc is pretty neat too.
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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted September 25, 2012 09:01 PM |
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Quote:
Imagine that with water damage enchantments
Why water damage?
Take inner fire, Blood shamens hut and Bloodpool, some cards like Stone shield, Altar of shadows and broken bridge and you have a Cyclops deck just how it should be. Well to he a full one you need the Orc epic card that alowes you to play a monster for free and attack with it in the same turn.
@Adrius
Ill rather chose my Blood caller then the smasher:-).
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Adrius
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Stand and fight!
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posted September 25, 2012 09:09 PM |
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Edited by Adrius at 21:40, 25 Sep 2012.
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The only creature above level 4 that I use is Centaur Marauder anyway ^^
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Oh and I also got an odd Dreamreaver.
EDIT2:
My face when I realize I have 2 Striking Furies.
God I love these things.
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Adrius
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Stand and fight!
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posted September 26, 2012 01:06 AM |
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Current balance thoughts:
- Dark Assassin is OP as hell. Without Firebolts or Necro's "kill anything below 2 resources" thingies it's reaaally hard to stop these guys.
I have one myself and I just feel dirty for using it, that card wins games for me single handely.
- Ranaar Maulers need +1 attack so they can actually be used for something useful besides dying to fuel Enraged creatures. Why these units even have Enraged 1 is beyond me, except for in some rare late game situations they never gain enough rage to mount any offense. What's more, having this ability is probably how the devs justify giving them 0/0/2 as stats... ridiculous.
- Inferno blah blah OP everybody's heard about it already. Lilims are the worst imo, I don't get how this lvl 4 b**** has almost as much attack and MOAR HP than even my fattest Orc.
- I never faced him outside of campaign mode but Crag Hack seems to suck really hard  I can see some viability in getting several Dark Asassins out on turn 1 by using his ability combined with Gold Piles, but then you sacrifice a stat increase so I dunno...
- Pao Hunters... are they useful for anything? 1/0/2 + no abilities on a lvl 2 creature? Compared to say, Dark Assassin with 4/0/2? That's a stat difference of 3. They have no appeal.
- Siegfried is perhaps a tad bit too strong. Me no like 3 HP Dark Assassins, they don't even care about firebolts.
What I can think of at the moment.
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JoonasTo
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Undefeatable Hero
What if Elvin was female?
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posted September 26, 2012 09:14 AM |
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Quote:
Current balance thoughts:
- Dark Assassin is OP as hell. Without Firebolts or Necro's "kill anything below 2 resources" thingies it's reaaally hard to stop these guys.
I have one myself and I just feel dirty for using it, that card wins games for me single handely.
- Ranaar Maulers need +1 attack so they can actually be used for something useful besides dying to fuel Enraged creatures. Why these units even have Enraged 1 is beyond me, except for in some rare late game situations they never gain enough rage to mount any offense. What's more, having this ability is probably how the devs justify giving them 0/0/2 as stats... ridiculous.
- Inferno blah blah OP everybody's heard about it already. Lilims are the worst imo, I don't get how this lvl 4 b**** has almost as much attack and MOAR HP than even my fattest Orc.
- I never faced him outside of campaign mode but Crag Hack seems to suck really hard I can see some viability in getting several Dark Asassins out on turn 1 by using his ability combined with Gold Piles, but then you sacrifice a stat increase so I dunno...
- Pao Hunters... are they useful for anything? 1/0/2 + no abilities on a lvl 2 creature? Compared to say, Dark Assassin with 4/0/2? That's a stat difference of 3. They have no appeal.
- Siegfried is perhaps a tad bit too strong. Me no like 3 HP Dark Assassins, they don't even care about firebolts.
What I can think of at the moment.
Never had problems with dark assassin, just troll them by using a librarian, or some 1 cost unit. Congratulations, you now used 1 resource to deal 1 damage to the enemy hero!
Maulers are OK in my book but they probably waste stronghold a spot for a more useful creature.
Lilims are tanks, maybe a little too cheap though. My issue is with juggernauts. 4 attack on a 3 cost creature, WTF
Pao Hunters, just lol.
A tad too strong doesn't really begin to cover it. All the guard units getting +1 HP alone is great, all those weak griffins having one more, AWESOME.
Necro needs more DPS units in general, there's archlich, ghostdragon, purtid lamasu, fate spinner etc. but none of the lower levels except zombie have damage so it kinda sucks.
Haven seems to have the same issue but at least they have healing.
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Elvin
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posted September 26, 2012 01:13 PM |
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That pretty much sums it up.
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Adrius
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Stand and fight!
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posted September 26, 2012 03:23 PM |
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Edited by Adrius at 16:01, 26 Sep 2012.
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Disagree about Dark Assassins, sure I can use monsters to block 'em but then they'll just kill it. Then I'll place another creature to block them, and it kills it again and so on.
The 1 damage to your hero when attacking doesn't matter in the slightest. I'd pay 2 or even 3 to attack with this creature in the early game just for the field advantage it gives me.
It puts you at a severe card disadvantage. Dark Assassin requires resources to take down that are disproportionate to the cost of the creature itself.
Except in case of Firebolt or the odd Necro spell, of course.
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Also I actually think Necro is pretty much fine right now. If they get bullrushed early on then yeah they're screwed, their low level units can't handle it. But if you can stall and poison until you get your higher tier units out... goddamn they're awesome.
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Also Joonas if I'm not mistaken Siegfried ability only affects Melee units? That wouldn't include Griffins as they are flyers.
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gnomes2169
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Undefeatable Hero
Duke of the Glade
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posted September 26, 2012 04:27 PM |
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Started to play my first match yesterday, and I admit that I realized I was pretty much screwed when my opponent was level 25 and I was still level 1 with only one expansion pack to my name... Funny thing was the only reason I didn't kill him after turn thirteen was that my side of the field was under the effect of that obnoxious twister/ cyclone/ tornado/ whatever the hell you want to call it spell and then my laptop battery died. 
I really do think that I like Necro... but I have a (non-basic) stronghold hero if I want to try him out as well. He apparently gets advantages from his units being enraged and can deal damage based on how many enrage counters he has...
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Adrius
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Undefeatable Hero
Stand and fight!
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posted September 26, 2012 04:35 PM |
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Edited by Adrius at 16:35, 26 Sep 2012.
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but I have a (non-basic) stronghold hero if I want to try him out as well. He apparently gets advantages from his units being enraged and can deal damage based on how many enrage counters he has...
SON OF A B******************************************************************************TH....!!!!!!!!!!!
Hand... hand it over...
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gnomes2169
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Duke of the Glade
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posted September 26, 2012 04:48 PM |
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I don't know if I can.  I would if I could, sir, since we are HC buddies and all... special privileges and everything.
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Adrius
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Undefeatable Hero
Stand and fight!
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posted September 26, 2012 04:58 PM |
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Edited by Adrius at 17:01, 26 Sep 2012.
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Hahaha no you can't, there's no trade option in place. It's coming later on.
That guy right there is arguably the best Stronghold hero. He's got Fire+Air magic, nice generalist stats and a very nice synergetic ability. Lucky you.
I've got Fleshbane, Champion of the Misshapen for trade later on if you're interested in Necro heroes. Might Necro with +1 Health to all Incorporeal units (ghosts, spectres, banshees, ghost dragons, shadow elementals...).
Also got two Necro epics:
Atropos is powerful as ****.
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gnomes2169
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Duke of the Glade
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posted September 26, 2012 05:20 PM |
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I have a Banshee... but Artopos or that hero would be absolutely beautiful. Perfectly willing to trade if the function comes up.
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