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Doomforge
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posted October 31, 2012 11:12 PM |
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Hard games
Hey,
Been wondering: what game has been hard to you? I mean: REALLY hard. Hard enough that you could never beat it, and you probably still wouldn't if you tried today.
I have such a game myself. (true story  ). I have beaten Supaplex, but this... this is hard beyond belief. It's an old RTS, probably widely unknown (albeit you may have heard of the sequels) : Earth 2140. In Mission pack 2, UCS campaign called "new outpost"... damn. I couldn't figure this out as a kid, and I still can't  I don't think it's really possible to beat this FIRST mission of that campaign. Well, MAYBE after like 20 hours of gameplay? I don't really encourage you to play this game (it sucks), but imagine that you're on a huge map but with little manouvering space, you cannot build top-tier units, there are guard towers all over the map (probably 30, or even more), the enemy has two bases&infinite cash&highest tech level, the whole map is mined to oblivion, and every few minutes there's a nuclear missile launched at your base... Oh, and I forgot, there's also transport choppers going for you 24/7 (they transport foot soldiers that capture your buildings to immediately activate selfdestruct ). Fun, eh? MAYBE if you protected the resources and rebuilt after each nuke long enough, you could beat it... but without best units, this would take... Duh. Probably 20-30 hours of trying.
I wonder what kind of game brutalized you
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Lord_Woock
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posted October 31, 2012 11:29 PM |
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I never got anywhere near beating ADOM despite hundreds upon hundreds of attempts. Roguelikes in general are really hard.
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Corribus
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posted October 31, 2012 11:33 PM |
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Kid Icarus. Hardest game I've ever played.
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JoonasTo
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What if Elvin was female?
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posted October 31, 2012 11:46 PM |
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I think that particular Earth 2140 map took me around 4-5 hours when I was around 12 or so. Of which I spent 4 hours literally just building units.
I actually remember liking the game back then, it was different from all the else.
Supaplex is the hardest one I've played, I'm pretty sure of that.
There was also this great tomb exploration game back in dos times I don't remember the name of. It was isometric 2D and basically a puzzle game that was pretty nice.
And humans, never could figure that one out.
Lemmings with the expansions gets an honourable mention.
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Doomforge
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posted November 01, 2012 12:00 AM |
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Nicely done by beating it, Joonas  Maybe I just don't have the patience I think it would be easier to clear the water path with hovercraft+spider IIs you get for free, then mass basic infantry and make a break for the ballistic centre with like 1000 of them it takes only two to capture it and finish the mission iirc. Of course, with that horrible interface, I'm not sure it would be possible to actually unload them from hovercrafts before getting completely stuck
It doesn't help that European Dynasty is just much, much more powerful than UCS, and that Screamers used by AI are the bane of human player's existence
As for Lemmings, I always hated that later levels were almost 100% about ladder/stairs/whatever_that_white_thing_was building.
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JoonasTo
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What if Elvin was female?
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posted November 01, 2012 12:34 AM |
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You'd probably get the area filled and it would stop your unloading since there was no more space to unload to. Then they would just be massacred right there.
Now I feel like finding the game from somewhere and playing it. The sequels were complete crap btw.
Yeah, building stairs in lemming when you have to watch and reset the stairbuilding at the exact moment to keep them form falling and dying, agh.
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OmegaDestroyer
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Fox or Chicken?
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posted November 01, 2012 12:39 AM |
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Dark Souls.
BIT.Trip Runner will drive you mad.
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Doomforge
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posted November 01, 2012 12:58 AM |
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Now I feel like finding the game from somewhere and playing it. The sequels were complete crap btw.
Just don't get the XP version of the game - it has bugged AI, along other bugs You'll probably need a dosbox to run Earth 2140 gold.
Remember the nemezis bomber? now that was overpowered, daaamn. One bomb and the whole screen's gone It also destroys construction yard in a single hit. and 300hp on an airplane? Immortal.
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OmegaDestroyer
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Fox or Chicken?
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posted November 01, 2012 02:06 AM |
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Anyone play Theme Hospital? That game got crazy hard.
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Galatea
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posted November 01, 2012 02:41 AM |
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3rd: MTG - Prolly coz of the complex rulings that I don't want to read. But I can manage, I think.
2nd: HON - Well, I'm new to this kind of gameplay so trying to learn a bit.
1st: Commandos - Uhh... really hard for me. I think this game requires a very tactical mind or something. Never really finished any of its releases.  But I want to try again.
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gnollking
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posted November 01, 2012 07:06 AM |
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BIT.Trip Runner will drive you mad.
You don't say. It's really fun though, when you manage to complete the longer levels.
Other than that, I really can't think of any games that were really hard. Except SkiFree.
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gnomes2169
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posted November 01, 2012 07:19 AM |
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Arcanum. When you die in the first area for the fourth time because of one stupidly OP enemy while you're about lvl 2, you sort of get discouraged. But seriously, this is a very challenging and interesting game. The mechanics and balance seem to be a little off, and there is very little guidance to the whole thing, so it's sort of like a harder version of the original Fallouts. Yeah...
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NoobX
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Now, this is a paradox...
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posted November 01, 2012 07:34 AM |
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Dungeon Lords for me. It was bug infested and with the bug fixing updates came more difficulty.
Some classes couldn't provide me with skills I need while some were hard to obtain.
The game was like: If you go there, a core NPC will appear there, but you'll have to track it because it won't be able to find you with it's limited pathfinding. If you save/load, the NPC will be gone and the game will be unbeatable.
Or, I had these situations: The doors open in half with an NPC in front of it and then the doors freeze like that. There is no other way out and save/load won't help you. 
It's a really interesting game though...
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Minecraft on Hardcore is impossible too. The mobs are way OP 
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gnollking
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posted November 01, 2012 07:37 AM |
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Minecraft? Learn to play, Noob
There's nothing tough in that game anymore.
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VOKIALBG
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First in line
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posted November 01, 2012 08:45 AM |
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NoobX
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Now, this is a paradox...
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posted November 01, 2012 08:50 AM |
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Minecraft? Learn to play, Noob
There's nothing tough in that game anymore.
Well, yeah, when you don't play on Hardcore. Enderdragon seems a lot tougher then. Especially when you run out of ammo for your bow :/
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gnollking
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posted November 01, 2012 09:19 AM |
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I'd not like to turn this thread into a Minecraft discussion, but I'll answer your post anyways. There's nothing tough in Enderdragon, not in any difficulty, no matter if you play hardcore or not. That's the lamest boss in the history of games . Next time, prepare. Get infinity on your bow if that's what it takes. You can do anything you want in the End and just ignore the dragon, he is no threat.
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Zenofex
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posted November 01, 2012 10:51 AM |
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Arcanum. When you die in the first area for the fourth time because of one stupidly OP enemy while you're about lvl 2, you sort of get discouraged.
Soad Mead Mug is the best cure for initial difficulties.  But yeah, Arcanum has pretty messed up balance before the middle of the game (where it becomes normally difficult before switching to easy later on). I remember one particular stone golem at the very entrance of the first dwarven mines that you get to exlore which was twice your own level (I entered the mines at level 12 or 13 and the thing was level 25 or something) and respectively disposed of your squad as soon as it reached it. Took me several hours to get some critical hit with a dynamite which left it on 20% health and kill it afterward (even then the bloody boulder nearly killed one squadee).
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kipshasz
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Elvin's Darkside
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posted November 01, 2012 11:00 AM |
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looking glass rifle and firearms spec in arcanum owns. or that charged ring combo which Dommforge mentioned several times work, althoug I haven't tried it out for myself.
For me the toughest game is the original X-Com and it's Terror from the Deep expansion.
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Doomforge
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posted November 01, 2012 11:23 AM |
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Arcanum was really easy. One of the easiest games I've ever played. Troll offspring + orc race + charged rings = Ridiculous stats from level 1. From there, you develop haste spell, and get the fire axe (I no longer remember where you get it from, but it certainly comes fast) which has like 30-50 damage, and that's it. You attack like 10 times per turn for ridiculous damage, killing everything outright.
That's an advice from a powergamer if you wish to beat the game effortlessly
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