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Heroes Community > Tavern of the Rising Sun > Thread: Philisophical things to think about
Thread: Philisophical things to think about
friendofgunnar
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posted February 16, 2013 09:48 AM
Edited by friendofgunnar at 09:49, 16 Feb 2013.

Philisophical things to think about

Let's say there's a woman named Joan and she's got a tumor.  This tumor is also malignant in the most horrible way so she has it removed.  Scientists are so fascinated by this ultra malignant tumor that they keep it alive in the lab with a nutrient broth. After years of continuous growth the tumor actually becomes larger and heavier than Joan was originally.  So the question is, which one is now Joan - the tumor or the woman?

True story btw

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Adrius
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posted February 16, 2013 09:57 AM
Edited by Adrius at 09:58, 16 Feb 2013.

The part that has Joan's consciousness?

The way I see it the tumor is an invader in the first place, it's not really "her".
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posted February 16, 2013 09:59 AM
Edited by blizzardboy at 10:12, 16 Feb 2013.

Quote:
Let's say there's a woman named Joan and she's got a tumor.  This tumor is also malignant in the most horrible way so she has it removed.  Scientists are so fascinated by this ultra malignant tumor that they keep it alive in the lab with a nutrient broth. After years of continuous growth the tumor actually becomes larger and heavier than Joan was originally.  So the question is, which one is now Joan - the tumor or the woman?



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Elvin
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posted February 16, 2013 12:39 PM

The tumour is still part of her it just kind of.. seceded.
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Adrius
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posted February 16, 2013 12:41 PM

Inb4 "Oh yeah Adrius then explain babies. Are they invaders too?!"

No they're tourists.
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Tsar-Ivor
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posted February 16, 2013 12:43 PM
Edited by Tsar-Ivor at 12:45, 16 Feb 2013.

The tumor is a parasite that's dependent on Joan. The tumor isn't self sufficient or self conscious enough to take on the role of Joan.
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JoonasTo
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posted February 16, 2013 12:51 PM

Depends on the definition of Joan. If speaking of the person then the answer is obvius. If speaking of the entity that Joan was at the time of the operation then neither of them is Joan but rather Joan 785419334 and Joan's tumor 785419334.
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Ghost
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posted February 16, 2013 02:26 PM

Hm topic is logic i.e. haven't feel anything
What they want etc
Because ghost isn't true
Their finger etc



Maybe some was stone head

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