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Corribus
Corribus

Hero of Order
The Abyss Staring Back at You
posted August 29, 2014 04:24 AM

Given the fact that I (and other mods) received several complaints from members about it, and after some discussion in the MSHQ:

Sal is receiving a warning for his post in the feminism thread.

The part of the Code of Conduct he is being warned about is Part 1:

Quote:
1) NO insults, abuse, racism or sexism.
Insult is a remark that undermines another person. A simple way to avoid insulting people is to discuss their actions and opinions rather than their personality. For example: instead of saying who they are ("you suck" or "you are an idiot") say what you think about their opinions/actions and why ("Your post about me is wrong because I never said that heroes 4 is a bad game" or "I disagree with your opinion because centaurs have more hit points than gnolls"). This simple rephrasing strategy can resolve many conflicts and fights before they even happen, both online and in life.
Racism is any remark that associates negativity with a person or group of people based on their nationality, ethnicity, religion, race, place of origin, or skin color. Sexism is any remark that associates negativity with a person or group of people based on their gender or sexual orientation.


A case could also be made about Part 6.

Being honest, I don't regard Sal's violation in this regard to be any worse than some of the other posts that have been made in the thread in question. His post is just the most recent to generate a lot of noise. This thread has captured my attention for a while and I'm not quite sure what to do with it. On the one hand I am not keen on censoring entire topics of discussion here at HC. On the other, this topic has been tried several times now in the last several months and on all occasions related threads have become places where the Code of Conduct is completely ignored by a few select individuals. Exacerbating this is the fact that sexism, as opposed to say racism, to my mind doesn't have as easily drawn a line between what is malicious and what isn't. I've been reluctant to start awarding penalties because - for better or worse - humor and even honest dialogue that might be construed as sexist to some is more accepted in our society than, for example, racism. That doesn't make it right, but it does make difficult the delicate tightrope that I walk between maintaining an open forum and enforcing the letter of the law.

So let me state my line so it's clear: I am willing to tolerate moderate chauvinism, misogyny, bigotry, and so on, regardless of whose sensitivity here it offends, so long as it isn't expressed in a way intentionally meant to hurt other specific HC members or other groups of people. My tolerance in this regard stems from my belief that people have the right to express beliefs and opinions, no matter how misguided I think they may be, so long as they do so in a respectful, peaceful manner.  This is my reading of the spirit of the law. Malice is the knife-edge that separates what I will tolerate from what I won't. As a moderator I reserve the right, with the help of the other moderators, to make the judgment of when malice is present and when it isn't. I will continue to entertain requests from individual members to render such judgments where they feel it may be required. Just be aware that I do not regard bigotry or its cousins to be de facto violations of the HC Code of Conduct. Naturally, Valeriy has supreme veto power, so if you feel strongly that I am being too tolerant in any specific instance, you may appeal to him for a final verdict.

Back to the issue at hand, after consultation with the MSHQ, I am choosing to leave the feminism thread closed for the time being. I will reopen it eventually, after I have had time to go through it carefully and determine if I want to clean it or issue any other individual warnings. In the meantime, please do not open additional threads on this topic.
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Hero of Order
The Abyss Staring Back at You
posted September 04, 2014 05:33 AM

Some you may have noticed that a penalty was handed to kip for a post in the War between Russia and Western Europe thread. Kip had some questions for Valeriy about why the post was penalized. It should be obvious to everyone now that insults are not allowed at HC, no matter whether they are directed at specific individuals or entire groups of people. And the fact that everyone in the thread allegedly agrees with your point of view doesn't change that.

To answer the question directly, the post was penalized because it breached points 1 and 2 of the Code of Conduct:
http://heroescommunity.com/faq.php3#rules

If you don't understand these rules, you should see points 1 and 2 in the COC for suggestions of how your ideas can be expressed without insults and bad language.

On a more general note, it is becoming clear that the politics of Eastern Europe is a sensitive topic to a lot of HC members. It clearly taps into emotions and passions of a number of you. Practically every thread we've had on this topic recently has involved temporary and permanent thread-closures, deleted posts, warnings, silences, penalties, and so on. This is not fun for anyone, least of all me, so I encourage members who are passionate about this topic to think of ways to express their opinions without resorting to insults and other violations of the Code of Conduct.

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The Abyss Staring Back at You
posted October 19, 2014 07:46 AM

A +QP awarded to baklava for his post here.

Good karma to mvassilev for the recommendation.
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The Abyss Staring Back at You
posted December 08, 2014 06:24 AM

A +QP has been awarded to Neraus for his post here.

Nicely done, Neraus!
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The Abyss Staring Back at You
posted January 02, 2015 11:51 PM

I awarded a +QP to somi for his post here.

Thanks to Storm-Giant for the recommendataion!
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The Abyss Staring Back at You
posted January 06, 2015 03:59 AM

General absence announcement

I just wanted to use this space to acknowledge my light presence here of late. Aside from the usual holiday stuff, I've had some real-life events that I've been dealing with. I may continue to be less active than usual for the immediate future. My restricted access at work (HC is blocked by my work ISP) hasn't helped.

I will continue to access HC at least once or twice daily to keep the forums I moderate running smoothly. If there are urgent matters that require my attention, please send me an HCM, as I'll see those first.
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The Abyss Staring Back at You
posted January 28, 2015 03:07 AM
Edited by Corribus at 03:16, 28 Jan 2015.

+QP Awarded to Tsar-Ivor for his new Rational Thoughts thread.

Nice opening post, Tsar!

I also gave a (belated) +QP to Artu for one of his posts in the music thread.

Artu has become a very productive member of the OSM, and HC in general, and +QP is long overdue. Galaad was kind enough to suggest a few worthy posts a while back, but it's taken me a while to get to them. Keep up the great contributions, artu!
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The Abyss Staring Back at You
posted June 04, 2015 03:21 AM
Edited by Corribus at 14:14, 04 Jun 2015.

A no brainer, really but:

+QP awarded to markkur for his great opening post If pain was purple.

While I'm at it, I handed Polyglot a +QP for a post on the same page of the same thread.
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The Abyss Staring Back at You
posted August 05, 2015 04:27 PM
Edited by Corribus at 16:27, 05 Aug 2015.

+QP awarded to William for sharing in the Downhill Times thread.

You should drop by more often, William!
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Hero of Order
The Abyss Staring Back at You
posted September 18, 2015 12:32 AM
Edited by Corribus at 00:36, 24 Sep 2015.

I cleaned the EU Migrant thread of insults and off-topic posts.

Phe has been officially warned that posts insulting homosexuals are not allowed at HC. Any further posts of like kind will be penalized.

Ebonheart has also now been warned about posting insults and general provocation in the EU Migrant thread.
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posted September 24, 2015 01:43 AM
Edited by Corribus at 01:43, 24 Sep 2015.

A +QP awarded to Dies_Irae for his "art or the people" thread.

Nice post, Dies_Irae!
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Hero of Order
The Abyss Staring Back at You
posted October 27, 2015 01:36 AM

+QP awarded to artu for his post here in the Israel and Palestine thread.

Ok, that's my quota for the year.
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The Abyss Staring Back at You
posted November 17, 2015 03:30 AM
Edited by Corribus at 03:30, 17 Nov 2015.

There are some new threads up for retirement at the retirement thread.

If you care to, please go here and see if you think any of the newest batch are worth saving.
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The Abyss Staring Back at You
posted December 01, 2015 02:47 PM
Edited by Corribus at 14:47, 01 Dec 2015.

A +QP awarded to Galaad for his post in the Taoism thread.

Thanks to verriker for the suggestion!
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The Abyss Staring Back at You
posted December 13, 2015 05:00 PM
Edited by Corribus at 17:00, 13 Dec 2015.

Herry has been penalized in the abortion and contraception thread for provocation, spamming, and insults.

Herry, I advise you (again) to carefully read the Code of Conduct (found here) and try harder not to intentionally antagonize other posters.
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The Abyss Staring Back at You
posted January 04, 2016 04:39 AM
Edited by Corribus at 04:39, 04 Jan 2016.

+QP awarded to Neraus in the Christianity Thread.

Thanks to Drakon-Deus for the nomination!
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The Abyss Staring Back at You
posted March 30, 2016 02:44 PM

+QP awarded to mvassilev here.

Nice post.
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The Abyss Staring Back at You
posted May 19, 2016 01:41 AM
Edited by Corribus at 01:41, 19 May 2016.

+QP awarded to Galaad in the Ancient States and Cultures thread. [link]

Thanks to Lizard Warrior for the recommendation.
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The Abyss Staring Back at You
posted July 15, 2016 02:08 PM

Phe has been issued a penalty in the France thread, as I warned him I would do.

Please review the Code of Conduct.
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The Abyss Staring Back at You
posted July 26, 2016 03:22 PM

I awarded markkur a +QP for his post here.

Thanks to master_learn for the recommendation!
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