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Gandalf196
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posted November 17, 2021 12:00 PM |
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Kyle Rittenhouse is an American Hero
Despite his young age, the lad managed to do the job the cowardly policemen are payed to do - to shoot down the terrorists from Black Lives Matter. Should the jurors not find the courage to free him from all charges, may the wrath of God strike upon America, cleansing this blessed land from all leftism.
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posted November 17, 2021 01:46 PM |
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posted November 17, 2021 03:50 PM |
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Gandalf196 said:
policemen are payed to do - to shoot down the terrorists from Black Lives Matter
*Squints.*
Oh yeah. I remember. That part of the duty of police. Where they're supposed to murder extra-judicially execute protesters who don't glorify the Nationalist cause. That... that's definitely part of their job. Mhm. Not a glaringly authoritarian power grab at all. They're supposed to do that in the street, even. Let the bodies of thousands pile up to really grind the message in.
Gandalf, my dude, police aren't supposed to kill innocent or guilty people. Any time someone dies instead of going to court, where they have a chance to defend themselves and have a sentence that matches their crimes (hint: it's almost never death in the vast majority of developed countries,) it's a tragedy. The more gung-ho a police officer is encouraged to be, the more terrified they are made of the people they are supposed to protect and serve, the more tragedies occur.
Also, just so we're clear here, vigilante justice? Isn't justice. It's citizens assaulting and killing each other instead of using the proper authorities, often because the vigilante feels the police or too impotent or corrupt to handle it themselves. Or it's someone just committing crimes that they think are justified by outside factors.
Vigilante actions are not heroic.
They're a symptom of the system failing. So, yeah, I suppose you have a point that the police failed... but that isn't something to laude or praise. It's a sign that tragedies are about to happen.
And in the case of Rittenhouse, both sides saw themselves as justified vigilantes. Rittenhouse and his friends as protectors of a specific business from vandals and looters, and the guys who tried to attack Rittenhouse as protectors of the protestors that Rittenhouse and his friends casually threatened with live-ammunition firearms when they passed harmlessly on the street. Those groups of vigilantes clashed, three people were shot, two of them died, and it's a tragedy. It's not something to set on a pedestal, its something to look at and taste the ash of regret and loss over.
Let the non-existent god of this world cleanse us regardless of the verdict, because justice failed before this trial even started.
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Gandalf196
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posted November 17, 2021 04:09 PM |
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I bet you felt very smart writing this pile of crap. Quit sugar-coating these terrorists. Antifa and BLM spread violence, chaos and even death wherever they "protest". Ergo, they are a threat to national security and should be accordingly dealth with.
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posted November 17, 2021 04:32 PM |
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You really want regular (white) people running around with semis and kill (black) people on the streets?
Then you are an even bigger fool than I thought.
Come to think of it, you could grab yourself a gun and so it yourself. After all, if you want something do be done RIGHT, you have to do it yourself. Correct?
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Gandalf196
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posted November 17, 2021 04:39 PM |
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I'm a big fool, but not so much as to link terrorism with race. Yellow, white or black, a terrorist is a terrorist. Terrorists, as the name suggests, mind you, are a threat to innocent people. Law enforcement should use force against them, period.
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posted November 17, 2021 04:59 PM |
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Edited by fred79 at 17:14, 17 Nov 2021.
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all of the video footage and photographic evidence make it perfectly clear rittenhouse was defending himself from rioters intending to hurt and/or kill him. all of the video footage and photographic evidence paint a clear picture of the kind of kid rittenhouse is. and all of the video footage from the riots, and the attackers' criminal histories, and acts of violence committed by the rioters that night who were killed or wounded, paint a very clear picture of what kind of people THEY were.
this never should have gone to trial, period. the only reason it is, is because of the violent mob mentality of the people the media turned into weaponized attack drones; and because the globalists don't want people thinking they can make any attempt to STOP their vile bullsnow and DEFEND themselves with FIREARMS if they are ATTACKED. they're STILL threatening to hurt and/or kill people on the jury if they don't give a guilty verdict, and they are STILL threatening rittenhouse's life. PUBLICLY.
this whole thing STARTED, because the media whipped the left into a frenzy last summer, which caused billions of dollars in damages, and the left to attack and MURDER people. the rioters were not only ENCOURAGED to riot, despite covid restrictions, by the media; but if they were even arrested, they were SET FREE in many cities by LEFTIST governors. one of the people rittenhouse shot was released the SAME DAY of the riots/shooting. THEN they had the police STAND DOWN during many riots last summer; kenosha being ONE OF THOSE RIOTS.
and now, they are doing everything in their power to try and send a kid who was doing the job the cops SHOULD have been doing, to prison for the rest of his life.
and just what happened at kenosha that night? the same thing that tends to happen when COPS try to enforce the law. they are ATTACKED BY VIOLENT CRIMINALS. and those violent criminals tend to get GUNNED DOWN for it. as would NORMALLY HAPPEN WHEN YOU ATTACK SOMEONE WHO IS ARMED.
in case the rabid left hasn't noticed, criminals tend to GET SHOT when attacking someone who is ARMED.
same thing happened with trayvon martin. same thing happened with rittenhouse's attackers. and the same thing happened with arbery. and yet, ALL of these violent criminals ATTACKING ARMED people are viewed as HEROES and even MARTYRS by the left, because of the establishment media propaganda(who HATE the power decent people have to deny their corrupt power). the globalists CERTAINLY don't want the public understanding that they can DEFEND THEMSELVES FROM VILLAINY AND TYRANNY, as per our CONSTITUTION. as per the FOUNDING OF OUR COUNTRY.
noooo, these violent criminals aren't MORONS for attacking someone who is ARMED, and certainly not violent criminals with criminal histories with a penchant for VIOLENCE, but HEROES/MARTYRS. sure. yeah. and i'm strawberry snowing cupcake.
it's obscene. it's obscene that a place of business even HAD to be protected by a group of CIVILIANS, including a CHILD, at the owner's request; instead of the POLICE(as any sane and decent society WOULD EXPECT), and it is OBSCENE that that same owner DENIED the fact he hired them UNDER OATH. it is OBSCENE that the people in mass media, the snowing cops, and the leftist-controlled government who PUSHED and ENABLED the riots, to then make every attempt to VILIFY and END THE LIFE of that CHILD who was doing THEIR GODDAMN JOB. who was attacked by THEIR THUGS when he was only trying to do the RIGHT THING.
this kind of snow didn't just happen in kenosha. that violent riot snow was RAMPANT all last summer, and CLAIMED a lot of LIVES. the only difference in kenosha was, was that the rioting thugs were STUPID enough to attack an ARMED individual. and the media and the left, who CREATED the situation, want to KILL A CHILD for trying to DO THE RIGHT THING, who was CLEARLY defending his own LIFE from violent and ARMED thugs, and try to keep INNOCENT BUSINESSES who had NOTHING to do with the reason for the riot from being DESTROYED by rioting THUGS listening to the ESTABLISHMENT leftist media.
who are now, at this very moment, primed to do even MORE damage and put even MORE lives at risk. because they've been trained to by their goddamn MEDIA, who is ENABLING and CREATING all this snow in the first place.
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posted November 17, 2021 05:26 PM |
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95% of the protests were peaceful. I know you already know that, but I'm repeating it to set a baseline. 95% had no violent altercations, no riots, no looting of any kind. Now let's look at the causes of those violent nights. There was a DoJ article back in November or December of 2020 detailing the causes of each violent altercation, but my google-fu is weak. But from what I recall:
About 50% (or 2.5% of all of the protests in total) were violent because of the state, with the violence caused by police attacking otherwise peaceful protests. These are the unprovoked attacks, where police fired tear-gas canisters into crowds, beat people and broke vehicle and business windows to "apprehend" suspects, and lit people up with less-lethal ammunition, with no justifiable provocation.This does not include the random acts of senseless, unprovoked violence and brutality that police inflicted on individuals, just on protesters in mass that police had a stand-off or confrontation with, since random individuals being yanked off the street doesn't constitute a "riot."
About half of these simply led to a protest dispersing for a night if it was late enough, with the protesters running away from further assaults, or in a mere temporary dispersal, with protesters reformed fully typically within an hour.
The other half sparked a backlash, either immediately or during the night after, in which police severely misjudged just how dangerous of the situation they were creating would become, and they were temporarily overwhelmed. This is what happened on the night that the Minneapolis police precinct office was burned to the ground, which was one of the most destructive nights of the protest in my state.
But hey, how about that last 2.5% of the protests? Surely that must be terrorists, right? Well, yes. In fact about 70% of that was caused by right-wing bad actors from legally recognized extreme right-wing fundamental terrorist groups (or separatists such as the boogaloo boys) going out of their way to escalate situations, typically in places the police were already using unjustified and excessive force. Almost all of the right wing violence was against people.
About 20% of it was from left-wing terror cells, not BLM themselves but separatists and other extremists that commonly glom onto them, in order to make opportunistic attacks against institutions they saw as their "enemies." Almost all of the left-wing violence was against property.
And about 10% was just sparked by unaffiliated looters growing out of hand during a tense situation.
So let's break that down then...
95% entirely peaceful
1.25% of the protests were violent exclusively because police attacked the protesters. Can't lie to the press and say there was no violence when you are shooting the press that's on the ground, or lighting off tear-gas mortars, but you can label exclusively police action against protesters as a "riot," apparently.
1.25% of the protests were violent because the police attacked protesters and the protesters fought back. So the police caused an actual riot, which they often couldn't ultimately control.
1.75% were violent because of bad-faith right wing actors attempting to either discredit the protests or trying to spark violence for the sake of violence against their political opposition (with the boogaloo boys going out of their way to take credit for most of the riots they caused as a signal to other members of their chapters to try and spark a full-on civil war, because literally re-establishing the Confederacy and black slavery is their goal. They aren't subtle.)
.5% were violent because of left wing bad-faith actors attacking police and other public institutions and using the crowd to galvanize the assault and lend them strength.
.2% were violent because of unaffiliated looting or opportunist violence that grew out of hand.
All of this according to the Department of Justice, which answered to Trump (well, to Barr, but Barr kissed trump's hand to pledge loyalty pretty much constantly) at the time the paper detailing this was published. So this isn't some report that was modified by THE LIBS! to make Trump look bad. It's just the Justice Department's best guess on what caused the violent outbreaks to occur.
So yeah, go ahead and focus on the tiny fraction of left-wing and unaffiliated rioting and looting, I guess. It totals .7% of all the protests that occurred, which doesn't match the violence caused by right-wing terror or police brutality if either category is kept on their own, but hey. You don't care about either of those. It doesn't fit your narrative.
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JollyJoker
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posted November 17, 2021 05:58 PM |
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Gandalf196 said:
I'm a big fool, but not so much as to link terrorism with race. Yellow, white or black, a terrorist is a terrorist. Terrorists, as the name suggests, mind you, are a threat to innocent people. Law enforcement should use force against them, period.
Judge Dredd like. Sure, hand the jury judge and executioner job to law enforcement and every minor who's a boy scout and gets their hands on a semi. You could cancel crap like Chicago P.D. and simply show reality TV live from the streets of America.
Could be difficult at times to avoid the crossfire - especially since a lot of people would think that was breach of constitution, people taking up armed resistance as would be their right in that case.
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posted November 17, 2021 06:06 PM |
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@ gnomes:
right-wing bad actors were causing all that fuss? lol. that you actually believe that comes as no surprise. people attempting to defend their country from violent globalist drones, are NOT the bad guys. they never WILL be.
you're confusing people who are/were DEFENDING, to people ATTACKING.
let me clarify for you, exactly how things transpired:
1. the globalists, through all of their influence, first weaponized the left. they've been doing this for a long time, but they really ramped up their efforts after obama got into office. they weaponized the left against not only the right, but the countries they exist in, themselves.
2. the left then did the globalist's bidding. which THEN caused:
3. the right, understanding what was transpiring, to make attempts to defend their country from the weaponized left.
4. we are now here, with both sides polarized. the left, polarized against anyone or anything against the globalist order; and the right, polarized against the left and anyone else under the influence of the globalists. which is why you see so much bs in the GLOBALIST MSM and GLOBALIST GOVERNMENT, regarding "right-wing terrorists". they've told you who the bad guys are, and you listen and obey. and then you commit acts of terrorism against not only the populace of your own countries, but against the basis of the countries you inhabit, themselves. and even if you're NOT violent, you STILL spread their propaganda and influence. you STILL use GLOBALIST propaganda and tactics to attempt to CONTROL others.
because you are influenced by the GLOBALISTS.
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posted November 17, 2021 07:20 PM |
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Nonsense. 
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fred79
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posted November 17, 2021 11:23 PM |
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your response is nonsense. i am 100% correct.
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posted November 18, 2021 04:41 AM |
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Edited by Celfious at 06:51, 18 Nov 2021.
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He was a predator with initial intent to use his weapon
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posted November 18, 2021 06:03 AM |
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do you have proof to back up that statement? because all the actual PROOF says the exact opposite: that the people he defended himself from(just like all the OTHER rioters in attendance), had gone to the "protest" looking for a violent confrontation. you guys really need to stop talking out your ass like you know anything factual, at this point.
all of the people he SHOT were predators. and one of them, was a documented SEXUAL predator as well.
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posted November 18, 2021 06:53 AM |
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Fred why was he out there with his weapon?
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posted November 18, 2021 07:17 AM |
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Truth response: he wanted to use it
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posted November 18, 2021 09:52 AM |
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how many times do i have to observe people like you and your utter lack of logic? i see this snow online and in real life, and even with my own family(of which many are leftists themselves), constantly.
i and millions of other people legally carry firearms daily. by your "logic", there should be millions of people shot daily, because we're all bloodthirsty snows just DYING to shoot people. and yet, the hundreds that are shot every day, are almost entirely from criminals who used illegal guns, shooting EACH OTHER, that you people always claim are victims of something. BUT, mysteriously enough, you never claim they are victims of EACH OTHER, but that somehow, some way, the guilt for their actions lies with the system.
funny. law-abiding citizens carrying guns for DEFENSE, are the villains to you people. as per your programming. because "guns shouldn't be used by law abiding citizens. guns should only be used by cops. but DEFUND the cops, because they're bad. and also, it's white racism and legal firearm access making black people shoot each other in droves with illegal firearms". hurr durr. huuurrrrr duuuuurrrrrr.
this is where i tell you to take your meds. even IF "they don't work unless i take mine".
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posted November 18, 2021 10:17 AM |
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Why wasn't Rittenhouse shot? Wouldn't he have been shot if there was an ARMED mob? However, it looks like people tried to grab his gun to stop HIM (instead of just shooting him with their own guns, since he packed a semi)?
That's not fitting to this "he was ddefending himself" story. It looks more like a case of bringing excessive firepower and then using it excessively.
And as usual, your ramblings completely disregard the facts you don't like - how many people die violently in other countries where people are not allowed to carry? And how many die in the US? Happenstance?
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posted November 18, 2021 10:39 AM |
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Edited by fred79 at 11:02, 18 Nov 2021.
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"ramblings"?
this is where we disconnect from one another. if you're going to take pure facts as "ramblings", and continue trying to act like i'm some nutjob for posting common-sense snow that is solidly backed by statistics and FACTS, then you have ceased to be one of sound mind; and not worth replying to, or trying to reach anymore.
every time your kind call me crazy, i want you all to look in a mirror. because those of us who are still sane in this ever-more-cartoonish clown-world, are constantly reminded of just how out of touch with reality, and DANGEROUS, you all are.
which is very off-putting. i USED to think the lunatics were all highly-animated, gibbering morons; obvious to the naked eye. NOW, i see that the majority of them, appear at first as mild-mannered and calm. but that initial mild-mannered and calm veneer, hides something truly frightening underneath. varying degrees of insanity, which grow much crazier, the more you people are triggered by anti-globalist sentiment.
what makes you people so much more frightening than just your view of the world and your lack of logic(again, in varying degrees), is that ANY of you are given positions where you have control over anyone else. essentially, putting lunatics in charge of the asylum that your kind make with the world.
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