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seraphim
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posted April 21, 2014 03:27 PM |
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artu said:
But yes, there are highway gangs who set up traps like that. The police keeps warning about them by sending SMS messages. They usually leave a stroller or even a baby by the road side, especially for women drivers to stop.
And really, watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvOYhAOs0ns
Its kinda gruesome but it shows a highway robbery on camera.
Rule nr 1, dont leave your fricking window or doors open in a highway and get something to protect yourself.
Really, one of the important lessons is to at best never need the help of strangers in any situation in life.
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Aron
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posted April 21, 2014 03:32 PM |
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Edited by Aron at 01:47, 22 Apr 2014.
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bloodsucker said:
Aron said:
Where can I read more about this?
I'm terribly sorry but I have no ideia. My antropology teacher talked about it in the classroom 20 years ago. I eard it in other places namely TV series and Emilio Salgari's novels but I can't quote reliable sources.
That's alright dude. Very interesting info tho.
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Aron
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posted April 21, 2014 03:36 PM |
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seraphim said:
artu said:
But yes, there are highway gangs who set up traps like that. The police keeps warning about them by sending SMS messages. They usually leave a stroller or even a baby by the road side, especially for women drivers to stop.
And really, watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvOYhAOs0ns
Its kinda gruesome but it shows a highway robbery on camera.
Rule nr 1, dont leave your fricking window or doors open in a highway and get something to protect yourself.
Really, one of the important lessons is to at best never need the help of strangers in any situation in life.
See, it's because of cowardly and disconnected people that these things happen. Guns aren't that uncommon in Russia and there are hundreds of people around them. If people felt a connection with that guy being robbed there in the middle of a road then those three robbers would be dead today.
It's because urban capitalist society disconnects us and because people like yourself believe in inaction that horrible things happen.
Cuz like a badass snow once said. The only thang necessary for punk ass snowes to prosper is for good homies to do nuthin.
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artu
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posted April 21, 2014 05:16 PM |
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That's all very nice Aron but the difference between common folk and highway gangsters is, while gangsters seem to be fine shooting people in cold blood, the others are usually not very good at that. Somehow, they hesitate to put a bullet in someone. So whether you have a gun or not, you'll be greatly risking your life and then you'll have to deal with legal procedures of shooting a man. The urban way to deal with it is have an efficient police force with a quick response time.
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seraphim
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posted April 21, 2014 05:25 PM |
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Aron said:
seraphim said:
artu said:
But yes, there are highway gangs who set up traps like that. The police keeps warning about them by sending SMS messages. They usually leave a stroller or even a baby by the road side, especially for women drivers to stop.
And really, watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvOYhAOs0ns
Its kinda gruesome but it shows a highway robbery on camera.
Rule nr 1, dont leave your fricking window or doors open in a highway and get something to protect yourself.
Really, one of the important lessons is to at best never need the help of strangers in any situation in life.
See, it's because of cowardly and disconnected people that these things happen. Guns aren't that uncommon in Russia and there are hundreds of people around them. If people felt a connection with that guy being robbed there in the middle of a road then those three robbers would be dead today.
It's because urban capitalist society disconnects us and because people like yourself believe in inaction that horrible things happen.
Cuz like a badass snow once said. The only thang necessary for punk ass snowes to prosper is for good homies to do nuthin.
The others who did not help are not guilty of anything. I dont know of any law that punishes for inaction in a situation like this.
I blame the driver of the SUV for being so reckless.
Really, you are driving a SUV, not using the means to protect yourself is just waiting for a disaster to happen.
And please, dont come around being the moral badass here. what you believe is right is not the right thing for others. Give me one reason why helping a stranger during a robbery is a good idea.
The only safe way to deal with robbers in such a scenario is to shoot them without any warning. Best to disable them before somebody can take the aim at you, but that isnt legal in many countries aswell.
More often than not, the law enforces criminals more than it protects innocents.
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Fauch
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posted April 21, 2014 06:05 PM |
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sometimes it feels like this forum is frequented by a bunch of psychos.
he was trying to be compassionate? so what? who cares? he should have ignored him and let him die because he might have got robbed. 
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mvassilev
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posted April 21, 2014 06:14 PM |
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Misplaced compassion can do a lot of harm. "If you don't know what to do, leave it alone" is a good rule of thumb.
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Aron
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posted April 21, 2014 06:15 PM |
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You know what, it's not about being a capitalist society or not. It's about how messed up people are. If that was your tribe out there on a nomadic trip in an anarcho-capitalist society you'd be shooting up those robbers in an instant. We have no attachement to anything but ourselves in todays society. Even the old way of doing business with some honour and dignity is past. Having a family business, having a name to defend. Today CEOs are changed like you change socks.
It's all messed up.
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seraphim
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posted April 21, 2014 06:28 PM |
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Fauch said:
sometimes it feels like this forum is frequented by a bunch of psychos.
he was trying to be compassionate? so what? who cares? he should have ignored him and let him die because he might have got robbed.
Its so easy to jump on the "i am so moral" bandwagon of people.
Care to give an explanation of why risking to get robbed/murdured, questioned by the police or targeted by the mafia is a smart thing to do?
Just because its helping? The way you argue about this case depends where you are raised and how you are raised as a child.
If you know there is a lot of crime and snow going around in your city, you would be agreeing with me right now.
"Fortune favors the prepared mind. -Louis Pasteur"
Also "Anything that can go wrong, will go wrong" - Murphy's law
These two quotes say more than I can wrap up.
The Law does not favor people who help or are vigilantes. Especially countries with gangs and mafia.
Its so easy to say "you must be a psycho". Really, go live in an area with high crime rates and come back to tell me how moral you are.
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fred79
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posted April 21, 2014 06:45 PM |
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seraphim said:
artu said:
But yes, there are highway gangs who set up traps like that. The police keeps warning about them by sending SMS messages. They usually leave a stroller or even a baby by the road side, especially for women drivers to stop.
And really, watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvOYhAOs0ns
Its kinda gruesome but it shows a highway robbery on camera.
Rule nr 1, dont leave your fricking window or doors open in a highway and get something to protect yourself.
Really, one of the important lessons is to at best never need the help of strangers in any situation in life.
i drive around with my windows open all the time, in any neighborhood. put me in that scenario. *3 guys attack me in my car while at a stoplight. 3 guys get shot and killed.* end of scenario.
other drivers sit around like dumbasses, just like before.
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mvassilev
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posted April 21, 2014 07:14 PM |
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Aron said:
If that was your tribe out there on a nomadic trip in an anarcho-capitalist society you'd be shooting up those robbers in an instant.
Probably true, but that doesn't mean it's a good thing. You may have the great intention of protecting someone, but who knows what's really going on? Sometimes you can tell, but sometimes you can't (but think you can).
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artu
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posted April 21, 2014 07:37 PM |
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fred79 said:
i drive around with my windows open all the time, in any neighborhood. put me in that scenario. *3 guys attack me in my car while at a stoplight. 3 guys get shot and killed.* end of scenario.
The way you tell it, you seem quite certain it's perfectly fine in terms of legality. So I wonder, if there are no legal obligations to do that, in US, what prevents murderers from simply killing anyone they like on an empty street, plant a gun in the victim's hand and plot a fake self-defense?
And question number two: Are you armed all the time?
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Fauch
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posted April 21, 2014 08:33 PM |
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sometimes, when you read the osm, you get under the impression, that nothing good, ever, can come out of men 
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Aron
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posted April 21, 2014 08:52 PM |
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Fauch; You, me and Baklava vs OSM!
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fred79
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posted April 21, 2014 10:23 PM |
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artu said:
The way you tell it, you seem quite certain it's perfectly fine in terms of legality. So I wonder, if there are no legal obligations to do that, in US, what prevents murderers from simply killing anyone they like on an empty street, plant a gun in the victim's hand and plot a fake self-defense?
And question number two: Are you armed all the time?
answer #1: it's called self defense. if you're attacked, and you're stuck in traffic with nowhere to run, you're legally permitted to engage said hostile targets.
answer #2: wherever legally allowed. which means, not in government buildings, or bars. and i don't go to either. so yeah, all the time. i've been armed with some form of weapon since i was in my early teens. i don't like hostility directed at me, and i like to be prepared for whatever i can be prepared for. boyscout motto, and all that.
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fred79
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posted April 21, 2014 10:25 PM |
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Fauch said:
sometimes, when you read the osm, you get under the impression, that nothing good, ever, can come out of men
men come out with video/computer/board games; candy; drugs; movies, etc. they're not all bad.
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mvassilev
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posted April 21, 2014 10:31 PM |
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fred79
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posted April 21, 2014 10:32 PM |
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the state of denial. why?
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meroe
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posted April 21, 2014 10:35 PM |
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Now I can visualize Fred armed to the teeth shooting out stop signs and threatening MacDonalds staff
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mvassilev
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posted April 21, 2014 10:37 PM |
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fred79 said:
the state of denial. why?
Curious about the gun laws in your state.
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