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adriancat
adriancat


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posted August 17, 2014 04:29 PM

Battlefield graphics are awful

To my opinion, and I belive to the many of you, the battlefield graphic of Heroes VII is indeed awful. The battlefield is much smaller that the Heroes III or V one, there has been put too much accent on the external visuals (trees, landscapes, obstacles) and less accent on the battlefield and creatures. I'll show you below some examples of the Heroes V graphics in battlefield (in comparison with Heroes VII), in which the creatures look really unique (in game too, not only in artworks, like in Heroes VI, or VII until now) :

Heroes V :

http://www.celestialheavens.com/homm5/images/preview/uhhuc4.jpg

http://www.sztab.com/tapety/galeria/heroes-of-might-and-magic-v-tribes-of-the-east-6.jpg

Compared to....this :

http://www.tawerna.biz/pages/gallery/gallery/walka1.jpg

http://www.tawerna.biz/pages/gallery/gallery/walka2.jpg

Am I the only one who thinks the graphics of Heroes VII in battlefield are poorly made ?

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only4dungeon
only4dungeon


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posted August 17, 2014 06:59 PM

They're not poorly made, they completely suck straight up. Even Heroes 6 is a mess in the battlefield.

Heroes is the only game I know that not only doesn't go up graphics wise, it falls off hard.

Well, at least it puts a smile on my face and it will save me some money for not buying the game, if they don't work this out .

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Elvin
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posted August 17, 2014 07:11 PM

I can totally see the ugliness. Wait, no I can't.
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Storm-Giant
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posted August 17, 2014 07:13 PM

Now that you are on that, why don't you compare H5 beta with H7?
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adriancat
adriancat


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posted August 17, 2014 07:18 PM

Elvin said:
I can totally see the ugliness. Wait, no I can't.


You can't because you support UbiCrap's games. You can't say that heroes VII's graphics in battlefield is not worse than even Heroes 3, nowadays the fans would expect gorgeous townscreens, gorgeous everything about graphics. I don't want 3D townscreens, but nor do I want a game that looks made in the past century in some areas.

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Stevie
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posted August 17, 2014 07:19 PM

adriancat said:
To my opinion, and I belive to the many of you, the battlefield graphic of Heroes VII is indeed awful.


I wouldn't bet on that.

These are by far the best battlefields ever created by Ubi.

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Sleeping_Sun
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posted August 17, 2014 07:31 PM
Edited by Sleeping_Sun at 19:31, 17 Aug 2014.

adriancat said:
The battlefield is much smaller that the Heroes III or V one


The battlefield on this picture is actually much larger than it seems. I believe it is much wider (thus bigger?) than in previous games: Heroes 7

Also if you think that H7 battlefields are small why don't you count the squares?
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only4dungeon
only4dungeon


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posted August 17, 2014 07:43 PM

adriancat said:
You can't because you support UbiCrap's games.

Chill, you don't know nor you can prove that.

Stevie said:

These are by far the best battlefields ever created by Ubi.

Well, you're entitled to your opinion.

Elvin said:
I can totally see the ugliness. Wait, no I can't.

Sarcasm is for smart people,sir.

Sleeping_Sun said:
Also if you think that H7 battlefields are small why don't you count the squares?

Yep, they're actually larger .

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blob2
blob2


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posted August 17, 2014 07:45 PM

Gameplay. GAMEPLAY!!!

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Nelgirith
Nelgirith


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posted August 17, 2014 07:47 PM
Edited by Nelgirith at 19:48, 17 Aug 2014.

It's kinda funny that you compare H5 and H7 because when I saw the battlefield with the catapult (http://www.tawerna.biz/pages/gallery/gallery/walka2.jpg), I thought it was a H5 screenshot

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Storm-Giant
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posted August 17, 2014 07:49 PM

blob2 said:
Gameplay. GAMEPLAY!!!

Apparently some people think graphics from an alpha build are more important than gameplay
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Wilfild
Wilfild

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posted August 17, 2014 07:57 PM

Storm-Giant said:
blob2 said:
Gameplay. GAMEPLAY!!!

Apparently some people think graphics from an alpha build are more important than gameplay


That's the point ... I hope that this time we will accept suggest of fans to improve and deploy a genuine strategic game. One over all is simultaneous turns, that I liked so much in Hmm5.
Graphic is secondary, and by the way is not bad in that screen (if we consider the game's status).

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adriancat
adriancat


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posted August 17, 2014 08:00 PM

Storm-Giant said:
blob2 said:
Gameplay. GAMEPLAY!!!

Apparently some people think graphics from an alpha build are more important than gameplay


Firstly, sure, it's an alpha build, being an Ubi insider you know the exact version of the game.  
Secondly, I don't think graphics to be over gameplay, but it is really clear that the cutscene before battlefield it's made in 2014 and the actual battlefield visuals are looking like they were made some 10 years ago.

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only4dungeon
only4dungeon


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posted August 17, 2014 08:01 PM

blob2 said:
Gameplay. GAMEPLAY!!!

That's your excuse ? Why not both ?

Storm-Giant said:

Apparently some people think graphics from an alpha build are more important than gameplay

After I took a look at your signature, I decided it's for our both best interest if I shut up and have a good laugh instead .

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Avirosb
Avirosb


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posted August 17, 2014 08:03 PM

You best judge the visuals now, because once the next bugfest rolls out it will surely take highest priority.

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Dave_Jame
Dave_Jame


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posted August 17, 2014 08:15 PM
Edited by Dave_Jame at 20:15, 17 Aug 2014.

This remids me of an old saying. "There is nothing less thankfull then a HoMaM fan."

Grapics are OK, and yes they are not "the top" but still better then H5 when it comes to resolutions and H6 when it comes to scale.

I just want a good working game, And sorry if you think that "top-noch" eye candi is more important
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somi
somi


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posted August 17, 2014 08:17 PM

From those screenshots it looks like dimension of units in h7 are really small. But i would not call it ugly, just small.

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Storm-Giant
Storm-Giant


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posted August 17, 2014 08:21 PM

adriancat said:
Firstly, sure, it's an alpha build, being an Ubi insider you know the exact version of the game.

What? I'm no Ubi insider lol

adriancat said:
Secondly, I don't think graphics to be over gameplay, but it is really clear that the cutscene before battlefield it's made in 2014 and the actual battlefield visuals are looking like they were made some 10 years ago.

It doesn't take a genius to realize Limbic is reusing a lot of stuff (just take a look at Haven creatures), obviously there will be graphics that are made several years ago...but still I don't think they are terrible like you do.
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alcibiades
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posted August 17, 2014 08:22 PM
Edited by alcibiades at 20:23, 17 Aug 2014.

I don't think ugly is the right word to use, because it looks good - but I agree battlefield could take up a bit more of the screen, and creatures do look very small. I mean, the Djinn in the top of the second screenshot, it's practically impossible to make out what that is other than some blue blop.

But of course, all these years we had people complaining about H5 being "too cartoony" and now when they make H7 not cartoony people come complaining that the creatures are not clearly defined on the battlefield ...
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Steyn
Steyn


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posted August 17, 2014 08:27 PM

First of all, the graphics of the battlefield seem fine to me. The lay-out and point-of-view however are something you can discuss about.
The biggest difference between the screenshots is the zoom level. The heroes V screens are a bit zoomed in, while the Heroes VII screens are completely zoomed out and can be zoomed in quite a bit without loosing view of the battlefield.

What I am intrigued about is that the siege battlefield is so long. This is really different from the previous instalments and will probably make ranged units quite powerful when defending against a siege.

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