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Heroes Community > Heroes 7 - Falcon's Last Flight > Thread: HC's Sylvan line-up alternative
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JoonasTo
JoonasTo


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What if Elvin was female?
posted September 12, 2014 08:43 PM

Lol you want GNOLLS?

WHY?
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War-overlord
War-overlord


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posted September 12, 2014 08:44 PM

JoonasTo said:
Lol you want GNOLLS?

WHY?

Satyr.

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Storm-Giant
Storm-Giant


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On the Other Side!
posted September 12, 2014 08:57 PM

Deer as a Champion unit? WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!?!?!?!
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JeremiahEmo
JeremiahEmo


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posted September 13, 2014 07:04 AM

if it was up to me, this would be the best lineup:

Core
1. Faun / Satyr male - low-ranged poisoner. Plays flute to confuse enemy creatures.

2. Nymph / Dryad female - tree-looking woman. Supports units especially treants.

3. Pixie / Sprite female - weak melee damager, decent magical damager and flyer


Elite
4. Hunter / Longbow male - strong range unit with double damage.

5. Blade Dancer / Wind Dancer male - can damage multiple units and cannot be retaliated.

6. Druid / Elder Druid male - magical damager and support


Champion
7. Treant / Ancient Treant it - heavy melee tank

8. Green Dragon / Emerald Dragon it - powerful attacker with decent HP and has can damage multiple neighboring creatures (including friendly).

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mvassilev
mvassilev


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posted September 13, 2014 07:19 AM

I like the idea in the first post - Treants and Phoenixes as the champion units is the right way to go.
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Danny
Danny


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posted September 13, 2014 08:14 AM

Sorry, this is worse than all of the 3 offered lineups, you just toned down the racial units in favor of animals, that's all. Unicorn & Doe together is redundant and Dragons are missing.

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leiah2
leiah2


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posted September 13, 2014 10:51 AM
Edited by leiah2 at 11:15, 13 Sep 2014.

Core:
Hunter/Master Hunter
Root Snake/Root Python
Dryad/Oak Dryad (IF they were able to be more allround supports and not useless without Treants)
Elite:
Druid/Druid Elder
Emerald Warrior/Emerald Knight (Riding a Stag )
Silver Unicorn/Golden Unicorn
Champion:
Green Dragon/Emerald Dragon
Treant/Ancient Treant

EDIT: Or this:

Core creatures

Hunter/Master hunter
Dryad/Oak dryad
Blade dancer

Elite creatures

Emerald warrior/Emerald knight
Druid/Elder Druid
Moon Doe/Sun Deer

Champion creatures

Green dragon/Emerald dragon
Treant/Ancient treant

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Galaad
Galaad

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Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted September 13, 2014 09:25 PM
Edited by Galaad at 21:25, 13 Sep 2014.

4th proposal

Core

Pixie/Sprite
Root Snake/Root Python
Hunter/Master Hunter

Elite

Druid/Elder Druid
Emerald warrior/Emerald Knight
Silver Unicorn/Golden Unicorn

Champion

Treant/Ancient Treant
Phoenix/Greater Phoenix

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Serpens
Serpens

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posted September 14, 2014 03:26 PM
Edited by Serpens at 15:28, 14 Sep 2014.

Root Snake/Root Python - fast, high initiative, walk, melee; crippling poison
Hunter/Master Hunter - slow, high initiative, walk, shoot; double shot
Pixie/Dryad - average, high initiative, fly, melee, spray; symbiosis

Druid/Elder Druid - slow, average initiative, walk, shoot, spellcast
Unicorn Rider/Unicorn Knight - fast, average initiative, walk, jumping; immunity to slow
Treant/Ancient Treant - average, low initiative, walk, entanglement; symbiosis

Green Dragon/Emerald Dragon - average, average initiative, walk, stone skin, AoE damage
Phoenix/Greater Phoenix - fast, average initiative, fly, rebirth; resurrection allies.
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Storm-Giant
Storm-Giant


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posted September 14, 2014 03:33 PM

Galaad said:
4th proposal

Core

Pixie/Sprite
Root Snake/Root Python
Hunter/Master Hunter

Elite

Druid/Elder Druid
Emerald warrior/Emerald Knight
Silver Unicorn/Golden Unicorn

Champion

Treant/Ancient Treant
Phoenix/Greater Phoenix

That's a really great lineup. Personalyl I still don't like the idea of Treants in Champion tier, but I could live with it.
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DarkLord
DarkLord


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posted September 14, 2014 04:14 PM

What about this line-up?

>Core

Dryad
Hunter
Satyr

>Elite

Unicorn
Treant
Druid

>Champion

Green Dragon
Faerie Dragon

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red_flag
red_flag


Known Hero
posted September 15, 2014 02:11 PM
Edited by red_flag at 14:38, 15 Sep 2014.


Some comments:
-Not flying dragons? I don't wont them at all.
-Elves as a champions? There are the Sylvasn's deer cavalry

(Human can. Why I can't be?)
-Unicorns as a core unit? Yes, big creature for the Hunters protection from melee and magic attacks.
-Dryads - fast flyers for the enemy range attackers blocking.
-Treant as elite unit with high health point for blocking of enemy key stacks with healing support by dryads.
-Blade Dancers - I wont female

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MattII
MattII


Legendary Hero
posted September 15, 2014 10:51 PM

For me:
Core
Sprite > Dryad
Badger > Wolverine
Hunter > Master Hunter

Elite
Druid > Forestfather
Unicorn > Silver Unicorn
Woodlion > Panther

Champion
Treant > Elder Treant
Green Dragon > Emerald Dragon

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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted September 16, 2014 01:11 AM
Edited by Galaad at 01:49, 16 Sep 2014.

So it doesn't look so bad does it ?


Switch Sprite with Dryad and we have Strenght lineup with Phoenix/Treant Champion combo ...

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alcibiades
alcibiades


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of Gold Dragons
posted September 16, 2014 09:37 AM
Edited by alcibiades at 09:38, 16 Sep 2014.

MattII said:
For me:
Core
Sprite > Dryad

I actually like the idea of merging the Sprite and the Dryad back into one unit, which retains the Sprites general abilities but the Dryads synergy with Treant. It also makes good sense with how the Sprite looks on the picture (and the Dryad image we've seen looks more like a water nymph than a forest spirit imo.).


My suggestion would therefore be:

Core:
Sprite > Dryad
Emerald Warrior > Emerald Knight
Hunter > Master Hunter

Elite:
Druid > Elder Druid
Silver Unicorn > Golden Unicorn
Treant > Ancient Treant

Champion:
Green Dragon > Emerald Dragon
Phoenix > Greater Phoenix


This line-up would be the one that retains the best balance between classical units (Hunter, Druid, Unicorn, Treant) and new units (Emerald Warrior, Dragon) and also takes different unit synergies and relationships into consideration (Dryad/Treant synergy, two radically different champions).
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cleglaw
cleglaw


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posted September 16, 2014 10:43 AM

so much unnecesarry love about animal-creatures.

a horse and a deer.

and yet they are somehow very important? i cant understand you guys. im so glad that there is an option excludes BOTH unicorn and deer, i dont want animals cute animals as army in sylvan, and i seee no reason-not a single one to want this. nostalgia? come on dont get stuck with the 90's..

This can shock people but here it comes: H3 was not perfect!!!

unicorns was ridicilious back then, and still it is. and btw, in H3 ranged units are OP as hell.

Fix your minds about nostalgia and keep in mind that just because it is related to "nature" doesnt mean its line-up should be like a cute zoo that you would like to visit when you get bored.

seriously, its so close to see killer-rabbit of monthy phyton as a unit suggestion. you guys need to stop.


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Galaad
Galaad

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Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted September 16, 2014 11:00 AM

cleglaw, I find your post offensive.

Alci, your lineup works for me.

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Avirosb
Avirosb


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No longer on vacation
posted September 16, 2014 11:08 AM
Edited by Avirosb at 11:11, 16 Sep 2014.

cleglaw said:
so much unnecesarry love about animal-creatures.

a horse and a deer.

and yet they are somehow very important? i cant understand you guys. im so glad that there is an option excludes BOTH unicorn and deer, i dont want animals cute animals as army in sylvan, and i seee no reason-not a single one to want this. nostalgia? come on dont get stuck with the 90's..
Yes, we're nostalgic for those 90's kawaii Sylvan deer units.
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This can shock people but here it comes: H3 was not perfect!!!
It compares favorably against most of the other games.
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Fix your minds about nostalgia and keep in mind that just because it is related to "nature" doesnt mean its line-up should be like a cute zoo that you would like to visit when you get bored.
We have academy for that.

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cleglaw
cleglaw


Famous Hero
posted September 16, 2014 11:09 AM
Edited by cleglaw at 11:16, 16 Sep 2014.

@galaad
what did i do to offend you? dont get offended please i have no bad intentions. i share my point of view which i think, is found valuable by developers. balance has no unicorn and deers. im pretty sure im not alone what i think...

@avirosb
im not sure you are beign sarcastic abaout kawaii stuff.. but i ll answer anyway. a little example from LoTR: you ride deer, but you dont say to it "go and crush your foes" same goes for unicorn, i like and i understand them as mounts, just like we did seen in H5 and the hobbit movie. but i think without a rider, unicorns or deers makes no sense.

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Alex_Yakub
Alex_Yakub


Famous Hero
posted September 16, 2014 11:14 AM

Avirosb said:
Yes, we're nostalgic for those 90's kawaii Sylvan deer units.

Yeah, remember how cute they were? Almost as cute as puppies in 90's Haven Anyway, unicorns are iconic to Sylvan. 'Nuff said
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