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hammerhand
hammerhand


Hired Hero
posted September 30, 2014 06:29 AM
Edited by hammerhand at 06:30, 30 Sep 2014.

Landsknecht is such a bad name

The German Landsknechte (singular Landsknecht, pronounced [lanʦ.knɛçt]) were colourful mercenary soldiers with a formidable reputation who became an important military force through late 15th- and 16th-century Europe. Consisting predominantly of German mercenary pikemen and supporting foot soldiers.

The German compound Landsknecht (earlier Lantknecht, without fugen-s) combines Land "land, country", here in the sense of "lowlands" and Knecht "servant, vassal", here in the sense of "foot-soldier". The compound Lantknecht was used during the 15th century of bailiffs or court ushers. In its application to mercenaries, it is first recorded in the 1480s, perhaps coined by Peter von Hagenbach and intended to indicate soldiers of the lowlands of Swabia as opposed to the "highlander" Swiss mercenaries.

As early as 1500, the term was re-etymologized as Lanzknecht, suggesting a derivation from Lanze "lance; pike"

How can a champion unit use such a name£¿ Zweihander is better£¬they are elite solder of Landsknechtes£¬using a zweihander£¬the two-handed sword.

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Kimarous
Kimarous


Supreme Hero
posted September 30, 2014 06:45 AM

And Titans were the forefathers of the Greek pantheon. Gargoyles are drainage systems with creepy faces. Justicars are officers of the monarchy. We can go through historical terms all day and point to their real-life counterparts until we've completely ruined any mystique to individual terms.

Look, I'm not entirely happy with the name either, but trying to point out the historical basis isn't really the best argument.

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hammerhand
hammerhand


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posted September 30, 2014 07:28 AM
Edited by hammerhand at 07:29, 30 Sep 2014.

Kimarous said:
And Titans were the forefathers of the Greek pantheon. Gargoyles are drainage systems with creepy faces. Justicars are officers of the monarchy. We can go through historical terms all day and point to their real-life counterparts until we've completely ruined any mystique to individual terms.

Look, I'm not entirely happy with the name either, but trying to point out the historical basis isn't really the best argument.


my point is not about history£¬landsknechte is a German word£¬means land servant£¬footman or pikman in English£¬is too ordinary. You can't just call a champion  footman or pikeman in other language.  

Zweihander is not a very good name too£¬means two handed sword£¬ but the new champions do use a two-handed sword£¬ not a pike£¨lanze£©.    

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Alex_Yakub
Alex_Yakub


Famous Hero
posted September 30, 2014 07:57 AM

Nah, I think landsknecht suits this unit just fine. All is better than swordbearer
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Avirosb
Avirosb


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No longer on vacation
posted September 30, 2014 08:41 AM
Edited by Avirosb at 08:41, 30 Sep 2014.

Quote:
Landsknecht is such a bad name
Quote:
Nah, I think landsknecht suits this unit just fine.

Can't it be both?

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Doomhammer
Doomhammer


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Smasher of pasties
posted September 30, 2014 08:56 AM

They are trying to be too original. Better to use a name that has been used before than a horrid sounding german word for pikeman/footman. You can't have a pikeman as your champion.
That name sucks

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alcibiades
alcibiades


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posted September 30, 2014 09:30 AM

I think the name is ok. It fits the sort of rough looks of the unit I think, and the combo of Landsknecht/Swordmaster sounds much better than Swordbearer/Swordmaster.
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War-overlord
War-overlord


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posted September 30, 2014 09:39 AM

Someone only read the first few lines of the article.
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Royin
Royin


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posted September 30, 2014 09:46 AM

Just upgrade it ASAP and problem solved, now stop moping.

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Minion
Minion


Legendary Hero
posted September 30, 2014 10:14 AM

Avirosb said:
Quote:
Landsknecht is such a bad name
Quote:
Nah, I think landsknecht suits this unit just fine.

Can't it be both?



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RMZ1989
RMZ1989


Supreme Hero
posted September 30, 2014 10:48 AM

I also dislike the new name, for me Swordbearer was okaish name and definitely better than new one. It sounds like I am playing the game on German(and no, I didn't like those Sanctuary names in H6 either).

But I have no problems with units not exactly being what they were in historical events.
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ChrisD1
ChrisD1


Supreme Hero
posted September 30, 2014 11:04 AM

gorgon is the species of ladies with snake hair turning things into stone.
yet i saw mere bulls with that name.
did you notice that they use names randomly, just now? COME ON!!
we first rage that swordbearer is a silly name,they give us a better name and we complain again!
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Avirosb
Avirosb


Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
posted September 30, 2014 11:15 AM
Edited by Avirosb at 11:16, 30 Sep 2014.

ChrisD1 said:
gorgon is the species of ladies with snake hair turning things into stone.
yet i saw mere bulls with that name.
Blame DnD dawg.

EDIT: Plated hide, deadly breath... Mere bulls indeed.

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Alex_Yakub
Alex_Yakub


Famous Hero
posted September 30, 2014 11:38 AM

Avirosb said:
Quote:
Landsknecht is such a bad name
Quote:
Nah, I think landsknecht suits this unit just fine.

Can't it be both?

Lol Good one, Avirosb
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Storm-Giant
Storm-Giant


Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
posted September 30, 2014 02:10 PM
Edited by Storm-Giant at 14:10, 30 Sep 2014.

Obligatory Might & Magic fans are never pleased comment.

Anything away from Swordbearer is an improvement in my book.
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blob2
blob2


Legendary Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
posted October 01, 2014 07:32 AM
Edited by blob2 at 07:33, 01 Oct 2014.

It's a little bit different with me. The downfall started with H5 if you ask me, though looking back the game wasn't that bad. It just didn't have that "charm", that element which made it perfect like H3. And while H4 wasn't perfect, I still find it one of the greatest TBS games I have ever played.

My brother, which is also a Heroes fan, said that H5 is on par or even better (in some elements) then H3. And I find quite a lot of fans stating the same...

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Marzhin
Marzhin

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Designer & Writer, Ubisoft
posted October 01, 2014 08:54 AM

Galaad said:
fans were happy with H2, then with H3.


Sorry to debunk a myth, but I had the opportunity to speak to some old NWC devs that worked on these specific games, and a question that came back often was "Is the community still a pain in the...?"


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Minion
Minion


Legendary Hero
posted October 01, 2014 09:01 AM

Haha!

You know what they say about opinions...
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Avirosb
Avirosb


Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
posted October 01, 2014 09:51 AM

Marzhin said:
Galaad said:
fans were happy with H2, then with H3.
Sorry to debunk a myth, but I had the opportunity to speak to some old NWC devs that worked on these specific games, and a question that came back often was "Is the community still a pain in the...?"
That didn't really debunk anything.
Fans were happy with H3. Regarding the Forge and Conflux however...

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verriker
verriker


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Legendary Hero
We don't need another 'eroes
posted October 01, 2014 09:53 AM

Marzhin said:
Sorry to debunk a myth, but I had the opportunity to speak to some old NWC devs that worked on these specific games, and a question that came back often was "Is the community still a pain in the...?"


just don't forget that you too were a member of that pain in the ass yourself not so long ago, lol

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