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hcl
Adventuring Hero
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posted December 11, 2014 08:54 AM |
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bug or intended?
Hello, not sure but i got a bit confused that i could cast death Ripple on Nightmares though they dont count as living creatures (and e.g. Vampires cant leech life from them)
did i miss the point somewhere?
btw: is theera complete list of wog/era creatures with detailed abilities and flags (aka is undead, do live etc..)
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artu
Promising
Undefeatable Hero
My BS sensor is tingling again
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posted December 11, 2014 09:29 AM |
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Edited by artu at 09:59, 11 Dec 2014.
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Nope, you can cast Death Ripple on non-living things as long as they are not specifically undead units such as mummies or ghost dragons as far as I remember. Check if elementals, golems or gargoyles are affected, they are non-living (can't ressurrect) but not undead (can't animate either).
Edit: Still havent switched OS to Windows, so I cant check myself but my memory is playing tricks on me, now I seem to remember elementals and such were also immune to Death Ripple.
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hcl
Adventuring Hero
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posted December 11, 2014 10:02 AM |
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Edited by hcl at 10:04, 11 Dec 2014.
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hm, according to wog 'new features' description, (or better,lore) nightmares should definitely count as undead (mho), and not be in the between state like elementals and such
Sandro.. took a few of the UNDEAD steeds that were normally used by the black knights and began "working" with them
have to find a poper save to test vs. eles later. will update here.
*Tip: u need a shared data partition with access from all your OS*es 
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artu
Promising
Undefeatable Hero
My BS sensor is tingling again
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posted December 11, 2014 12:12 PM |
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Edited by artu at 12:35, 11 Dec 2014.
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I can see and reach any data, I just can't open the game to test-play.
Here is the description in the info link here though:
DEATH RIPPLE
Sends a wave of death across the battlefield which damages all non-undead units.
Considering even Ghosts are not undead units (I made an Era mod which puts them into undead category) in Wog and get death rippled, I don't think they designed nightmares as officialy undead.
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hcl
Adventuring Hero
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posted December 12, 2014 01:58 AM |
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Edited by hcl at 01:59, 12 Dec 2014.
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Mho, creaturs should be strictly categorized and have an corresponding flag for such. And/or we need a bettrer defining of existing categories.
mho something like this 4 categories
living (breaths,has blood <- life can be leeched etc)
undead (former living, using body/corpse remains)
elementals
animated matter (anorganic, matter that has not been a corpse)
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LizardWarrior
Honorable
Legendary Hero
the reckoning is at hand
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posted December 12, 2014 02:29 PM |
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There are 3 flags in H3 for that matter:
-living
-undead
-unliving
It's interesting that undead flag only gives immunity to some spells(death ripple, bless/curse etc.) and penalty bonus to allied troops. All undead units got both unliving and undead flag, as if a creature with undead flag but without un-living flag has dynamic morale. These are all hard-coded in the exe
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