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posted March 24, 2015 09:42 PM
Edited by verriker at 21:57, 24 Mar 2015.

if the nagas actually could interbreed with the other races it would kind of make sense for them to evolve tits over time, to attract various kinds of mate, but... we just had it confirmed suggested that they can't, so there is would be no purpose for boobs lol
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posted March 24, 2015 09:46 PM

verriker said:
if the nagas actually could interbreed with the other races it would kind of make sense for them to evolve tits over time, to attract various kinds of mate, but... we just had it confirmed that they can't, so there is no purpose for boobs lol


unless they suckle.
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posted March 24, 2015 09:51 PM

verriker said:
we just had it confirmed that they can't, so there is no purpose for boobs

Actually, Marzhin only stated it as his personal guess, I think.

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posted March 24, 2015 09:54 PM

kiryu133 said:
but what would a pair of lumps without purpose actually mean to a male naga? ... as i said, those tail feathers has some purpose (showing health and intimidating rivals/predators). Naga lumps with no nipples doesn't have a purpose and that's where i can't agree with you. deep Naga horns on the other hand...

If they indeed are a hindrance, then they as much show health as peafowl feathers. If a Naga is hindered by her breasts and is still more succesfull then you've a very healthy Naga-girl on your hands.

Or they could be a form of sexual dimorphism that has to do with hormone-levels. Take the Wattles and Combs in birds. They have no purpose, other than to show off the heigth of their testosterone productions. Larger combs and wattles means more testosterone and therefor healthier offspring.
Breasts can very well be a sign of higher Oestrogen levels in females.
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posted March 24, 2015 09:56 PM

Sligneris said:
Actually, Marzhin only stated it as his personal guess, I think.


you're right, sorry my mistake
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posted March 24, 2015 10:08 PM

War-overlord said:
a hindrance, then they as much show health as peafowl feathers. If a Naga is hindered by her breasts and is still more succesfull then you've a very healthy Naga-girl on your hands.

Or they could be a form of sexual dimorphism that has to do with hormone-levels. Take the Wattles and Combs in birds. They have no purpose, other than to show off the heigth of their testosterone productions. Larger combs and wattles means more testosterone and therefor healthier offspring.
Breasts can very well be a sign of higher Oestrogen levels in females.


that's certainly possible, however i think Occams Razor is very much applicable here. it usually isn't in Ashan, but right now the simplest solution is probably the most likely.

still, you raise interesting points. i enjoyed this
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posted March 24, 2015 10:11 PM
Edited by MattII at 22:11, 24 Mar 2015.

War-overlord said:
If they indeed are a hindrance, then they as much show health as peafowl feathers. If a Naga is hindered by her breasts and is still more succesfull then you've a very healthy Naga-girl on your hands.

Or they could be a form of sexual dimorphism that has to do with hormone-levels. Take the Wattles and Combs in birds. They have no purpose, other than to show off the heigth of their testosterone productions. Larger combs and wattles means more testosterone and therefor healthier offspring.
Breasts can very well be a sign of higher Oestrogen levels in females.
IMO this is reading too deep into the subject. The fact is, Ubi wanted lots of females in H6, and whoever sent the brief to BH obviously couldn't get past females = boobs (despite the fact that this is relevant only for humans, not even other great apes).

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posted March 24, 2015 10:11 PM
Edited by Gryphs at 22:12, 24 Mar 2015.

kiryu133 said:
it usually isn't in Ashan, but right now the simplest solution is probably the most likely.
Actually given how obsessed Ashan is with religion it probably has a religious answer such as Shalassa wanted it that way.

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posted March 24, 2015 10:14 PM

kiryu133 said:
that's certainly possible, however i think Occams Razor is very much applicable here. it usually isn't in Ashan, but right now the simplest solution is probably the most likely.

still, you raise interesting points. i enjoyed this

I enjoyed this as well. Though I am not convinced that in this case, Suckling offspring in a reptilian species is the simpler solution than sexual dimorphism.

But of course we know the Actual Reason Naga have breast. Which is that they're supposed to be goodlooking for the audience. But let us not turn this in a "Why are there no ugly girls in videro gamez"-discussion.
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posted March 25, 2015 07:44 AM

War-overlord said:

I enjoyed this as well. Though I am not convinced that in this case, Suckling offspring in a reptilian species is the simpler solution than sexual dimorphism.


that is if they are indeed fully reptillian. i don't think so since the human part is way more prominent and they appear to be a mix. but then again, have we seen female deep nagas yet? that could shed some light on the whole thing.
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posted March 25, 2015 09:55 AM

War-overlord said:
Having breast means nothing if said breast have no nipples.
I agree that most of it would likely be very reptilian. But I highly doubt Naga suckle their infants. Breasts on Naga are decorative only, I expect.

The male seem to have nipples, which implies the females have them too.

(large pics of Keshi and Kensei here and here.
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posted March 25, 2015 10:14 AM

verriker said:
so there is would be no purpose for boobs lol

Heresy!



Traditionally humanoid creatures have always had nipples anyway, would be weird if they didn't. Could you imagine a mermaid without breasts?
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posted March 25, 2015 10:28 AM

Steyn said:
The male seem to have nipples, which implies the females have them too.

Or it implies the limited vision of the artist, who could not concieve a humanoid torso without nipples.
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posted March 25, 2015 10:56 AM
Edited by MattII at 11:01, 25 Mar 2015.

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Or it implies the limited vision of the artist, who could not concieve a humanoid torso without nipples.
Yep, pretty much this.

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posted March 25, 2015 11:22 AM

Elvin said:
Traditionally humanoid creatures have always had nipples anyway, would be weird if they didn't. Could you imagine a mermaid without breasts?


mermaids were supposedly unnatural creatures with the single purpose of seducing and killing sailors so there is a reason for breasts there.  
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posted March 25, 2015 11:43 AM

War-overlord said:

Or it implies the limited vision of the artist, who could not concieve a humanoid torso without nipples.

Except that the shark guard has no nipples.
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posted March 25, 2015 11:47 AM

kiryu133 said:
(and my bird recently having a couple of eggs


You have birds!?
What do they look like?
How many do you have?
Did you know they were having kids?
Do they do that often?
Were you excited about it?
What are you going to do when they hatch? How have you prepared for it?
Will you keep the little birds or are you going to find them a new home?
Maybe some (or lots of) photos of the birds and the eggs?

And yeah... i know nothing about Nagas

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posted March 25, 2015 11:49 AM

Steyn said:
Except that the shark guard has no nipples.

Was that made by the same artist?
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posted March 25, 2015 11:52 AM

I have no idea
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posted March 25, 2015 01:04 PM

ThatRedSarah said:
kiryu133 said:
(and my bird recently having a couple of eggs


You have birds!?
What do they look like?
How many do you have?
Did you know they were having kids?
Do they do that often?
Were you excited about it?
What are you going to do when they hatch? How have you prepared for it?
Will you keep the little birds or are you going to find them a new home?
Maybe some (or lots of) photos of the birds and the eggs?

And yeah... i know nothing about Nagas


I am getting the vague impression that you like birds - but I could be wrong .

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