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Ghost
Ghost


Supreme Hero
Therefore I am
posted February 25, 2017 05:41 PM

Read history again, Baronus! Mr Artu knew 2000 year of the Roma.

Ok I cast the blind is very powerful against the fear by mad guy from the learning country. It need just right time and magic move

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Baronus
Baronus


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posted February 25, 2017 07:09 PM

For what learn again?
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You can be productive not only as a monk. You can it everywhere! Eg. here :-) God is here too :-)

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tSar-Ivor
tSar-Ivor


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posted February 25, 2017 07:16 PM
Edited by tSar-Ivor at 19:17, 25 Feb 2017.

True but I said being a monk or living in seclusion is most certainly the "more" productive imho.
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Elvin
Elvin


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Rejuvenation process
posted February 25, 2017 07:49 PM

There is probably a more efficient solution but I'd be satisfied to gather all current Greek politicians and cast meteor shower on them. Maybe inferno for thematic reasons.
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mvassilev
mvassilev


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posted February 25, 2017 08:24 PM

Cast Destroy Undead globally, see if anyone takes damage.
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Blizzardboy
Blizzardboy


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No. You're awesome.
posted February 26, 2017 06:07 AM
Edited by Blizzardboy at 08:31, 26 Feb 2017.

I'd cast remove obstacle in front of Princess Diana.

Not really. I'd cast Summon Boat. Who doesn't love boats?
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Dies_Irae
Dies_Irae


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posted February 26, 2017 12:54 PM
Edited by Dies_Irae at 13:01, 26 Feb 2017.

fred79 -

fred said:
any leader of any government...


So, mr. fred, I have one question. Does this include only worldly rulers such as kings, queens, princes, presidents and prime ministers? Because I think that popes also count, especially considering their rule over the Church on one side and the Papal States in Italy on the other. Considering the papacy as government, I wish I could cast some spells on some popes. Let me start with them.

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First of all, I would likely cast Cure and Fortune several times on Innocent VIII (in power from 1482 to 1492). Why him? Well, for a university subject I did some research into his life and accomplishments in order to understand his tomb monument in St. Peter's. This fifteenth-century structure by the Pollaiuolo brothers is quite unique for its time, in that it shows the pope twice: dead, laying on a bier and alive, enthroned while holding an important relic in one hand, that he managed to obtain during his rule. Only in the baroque era would we frequently see statues of popes enthroned and dramatic on their tomb monuments. Another interesting fact is that his monument used to be in the old St. Peter's and was transferred to the new one, along with just one other if I am not mistaken.

You can say that Giovanni Battista Cibo's elevation into the papacy was a compromise, mostly between Rodrigo Borgia and Giuliano della Rovere, who at the time controlled enough votes to have considerable power in conclave (see G. J. Meyer, "The Borgias. The Hidden History", 2013, p. 164-165). Innocent's papacy was short-lived, due to his poor health and rather bad decisions. Despite all that, if he had lived longer and ruled better, I wonder what he would have done for, say, the arts and what his tomb would have looked like in the end. Would he have been able to mount a campaign against the Turks as he planned but failed to do? Extending his life, increasing his health and popularity, Rodrigo Borgia (the future Alexander VI) may have become pope later or not at all.

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Secondly, I would go back further in time to cast Animate Dead or Resurrection on Pope Formosus, so that he can witness his trial while still being alive, instead of as a corpse .

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But let's forget about popes for a moment, because there is one other ruler that in his time could use some HoMM3 spells. I am talking about the Dutch king Willem II (in power from 1840 to 1849). On him as well as on his heirs, I would cast at least Bless and Fortune, but also Visions. In his relatively short reign, Willem II proved to be a lover of the arts. He brought together a major collection, inspired by his brother-in-law Tsar Nicholas I. Works by Rubens, Raphael, Rembrandt, Leonardo dV and even Flemish primitives such as Jan van Eyck. Needless to say, had his collection remained intact after his death, museums such as the Rijksmuseum (and the Netherlands in general) would have a collection of even greater (inter)national importance than now. We have no Raphael here anymore, for example.

Unfortunately, when Willem II died in 1849 his heirs discovered that he had a major debt, including a loan of a million guilders from Nicholas I. As a result, his collection was simply put up for auction which attracted a great number of foreign collectors, while the Dutch state did nothing. Art, they said, was none of the government's business. Spoken in a century which later saw the rise of major nationalist tendencies and the so-called "Denkmalkultur", the praise of distant or recent national heroes by means of major monuments and statues all over the place. In 1873, Victor de Stuers published a pamphlet in which he critized the government's lack of action to do something about the neglect of the Dutch cultural heritage. By then, of course, it was too late (see Roel Pots, "Cultuur, koningen en democraten. Overheid & Cultuur in Nederland", 4e druk, 2010, p. 119).

With Visions, Willem II would have been able to foresee or know the risks. With Bless/Prayer and/or Fortune he would have had to means to know where to get the good stuff and how to make sure that he wouldn't lose it. The Netherlands would still have an art collection of exceptional quality. And that is something that I, professionally as wel as personally, would have loved to see and study.
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fred79
fred79


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posted March 02, 2017 07:05 PM

some pretty interesting answers. i hope this thread hasn't died.

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PandaTar
PandaTar


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posted March 02, 2017 07:30 PM

I would probably use something simple as Magic Arrow (with lethal damage) on anyone who started evolving into a tyrant. Also would use it on religious leaders, if they started using the fact that magic arrow killed tyrants due God's will to strength their grip on people for any mind-enslaving purpose. Would basically magic-arrow-shot potential massive dangers, but would let small fishes live, because humanity needs smaller conflicts to learn survival and, hopefully, learn how to coexist with some differences.
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Neraus
Neraus


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Walking paradox
posted March 02, 2017 07:31 PM

Second try then, I'd cast curse or forgetfulness on king Victor Emmanuel II before he had the brilliant idea of not respecting his pacts with the French and instead claiming Italy as his own.

I'd also cast the same on good old Bismarck, or at least, forgetfulness until the Papacy was safe from the predatory claws of Piedmont.

And I'd probably cast dragon slayer on King Francis II of Bourbon Two-Sicilies, because I don't know of any spell that would allow him to overtake his officials betraying him, the Mafia becoming stronger all in the wake of a sclerotic madman coming with his thousand caretakers, but I still would want to cast something that could help and be cool.

You know what, meteor shower on the ships that brought the accursed thousand actually, but that isn't the scope of the thread I suppose.
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fred79
fred79


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chewer of expensive shoes
posted March 02, 2017 07:35 PM

Neraus said:
You know what, meteor shower on the ships that brought the accursed thousand actually, but that isn't the scope of the thread I suppose.


lol, no. because then it would become like that one guy's thread, "if you were a mass-murderer who would you mass-murder"?(or something like that). and cor would promptly shut it down.

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Neraus
Neraus


Supreme Hero
Walking paradox
posted March 02, 2017 07:53 PM

But I'm technically talking about a foreign invading army, so I should be in the clear, am I not?

Besides, here Cor has no power, OD does, and I'm sure he won't allow my lollygagging.
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markmasters
markmasters


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posted March 02, 2017 08:04 PM

Bless on Hitler....



Just kidding!

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verriker
verriker


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Erwinmental Garbage
posted March 02, 2017 09:57 PM

btw for some other contemporary British politics I will cast Berserk on Theresa May because it previously worked very well when cast on Cameroon and Boorish Johnson who wiped each other out lol

I will also cast Haste on Theresa May that we May hurry up to **** ourselves in the ass with the Breakfast and the Article 50 and thus cause a backlash of nasty riot removing the Tories from power with all Haste lol

I will cast Bloodlust, Slayer and Frenzy on Nicola Sturgeon to increase her all or nothing attack power for the Scottish Referendum because I am very patriotic to have Independence Day and would like to part from the Silly Sasenachs to honor King Gibson's legacy lol

I would cast Misfortune on UKIP but there is no real need to do that, it would be a bit kicking an ***** when he is down lol

I will cast Clone on Alex Salmond to double the trouble of his entertainingly bombastic blowhard nationalistic rhetoric lol

I will cast Destroy Undead on Tony Blair and Gordon Brown lol

somebody already cast Slow, Blind and Forgetfulness on Jeremy Corbyn so I will cast Remove Obstacle on him because despite decent principled bloke he is unfortunately a very lame manager thus being an Obstacle to battling the Tories and the regressives lol

I will cast Scuttle Boat on Boaty McBoatface because he ignored us and did not respect the will of the people lol

I will cast Animate Dead on Dennis Skinner so he will continue to give very rousing emotional speeches even though he is dead lol
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