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Heroes Community > Summoners Academy > Thread: Updated tips for Creature Quest!
Thread: Updated tips for Creature Quest!
Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted November 03, 2017 10:25 AM

Updated tips for Creature Quest!

Thought it was time to bring out a bit more of help to new players, since most guides are old and game grew quite a bit ever since, feel free to comment or add anything, this was done a bit on the fly.

How to farm efficiently

MIGHT OVER MAGIC is possibly the best map to farm. It gives low tier Kingdom material in decent amount which you need in considerable quantities, as well as totems and great creatures such as Butterfly and Sky Vizier.

CHESTS are worth it. It is a usual quick grind tactic to not complete a map 100% and only do fights to advance further in map, quickly looting materials, but at least beat the last Boss to open chests, moreover if you get a few gold and silver ones.

TOWER is especially nice if you happen to have too much energy. When there is no drop I don't finish the fight to not gain XP and energy was not wasted, as I had a run for potential creature drop.
If you get a 3/4 dot from questing, Tower is the fastest place to farm for dupes as you can really target specific creatures.

FARM THE EVENT MAPS, it's usually very strong Epics that are featured, you need 16 runs to fully awaken one and 3ds drop often enough. If you're motivated, you can farm more for a 4d, it's not bad to end up with a few fully awoken 3d Epics anyway for their Kingdom efficiency.
Small exploit everybody uses: if the Epic chest doesn't drop during the fight, hard exit, enter the battle again and you might get a drop, sometimes you need to repeat it a few times for a drop. A bit tedious, but at least you don't have to redo the whole quest all over again.

QUICK QUESTING is better done for low tier material such as Knight difficulty for Sigils, but I recommend manual when you go highest difficulty you can beat as not only the loot is better, but you get also merchants or additional loot (diamonds idols, quick coins, extra diamonds) popping up randomly.

MANUAL GRINDING as said above will ALWAYS give better loot, but can be quite time consuming. It's always good to HAVE QBCs SAVED so when you plan to do multiple runs in a row, you can quick battle some but not all (in example only last -the longest- fight).

How to survive in PvP

ATTACK relies mostly on having a team with a nice synergy of creatures and color dots. You can fill up mana faster by lowering your multipliers, which is recommended against the strongest defenses. Be sure to always have : a pure healer or rezzer (or both), a stunner or silencer, and a nuker. With that and dots synergy you should be able to make your way through the good rewards (3d creature).

DEFENSE relies almost exclusively on wave 1, and needs TOTEMS, don't neglect these they give powerful buffs! You want to put all the meta creatures you have in there. Some creatures I think are very good are (in no particular order):

Wyvern
Kangoroo
Mummy
Statue
Owl
Clockwork
Skeleton
Boar
Sky Vizier
Hyena
Pirate Kobold
Kitsune
Lizardman

I mentioned only mediums as the STRONGEST defense setup is the Dungeon 5, featuring exclusively mediums on wave 1. On the smalls I would note :

Frog
Ant
Ornithopter
Butterfly
Gnome Arbalest
Spider

All smalls and mediums are farmable through Batlle Tower, just check the list to know which is where.

PRESTIGE works in a way when the higher your opponent has, the higher you will gain if you beat him. Respectively, if you attack someone with much lower prestige than you, you won't gain that much.
You can reload opponent list every 5 minutes.

FARM YOUR KINGDOM as its influence on your creatures is enormous. You want to prioritize RARE KEEP for defense and LEGENDARY KEEP for attack. Color shrines are also very important.
As mentioned in the Kingdom thread, do not neglect your WOOD and ORE mines, as structures that will interest you to upgrade will ask for A LOT of those.
Again, MIGHT OVER MAGIC and PYRAT are great to farm.

ENCHANTS are also worth it, can compensate for lower Kingdom structures. So much to do and to keep in mind.

Oh and yes, no brainer but typical rookie mistake, THE AMOUNT OF DOTS IS VERY IMPORTANT, NEVER RECYCLE A FOUR DOT, NEVER AWAKEN A ONE DOT. It is fine to invest on 2 dots in the early game (bronze/silver dungeon tiers) but when you'll be in gold 3 dots will be a strict minimum.
Indeed, the more dots your creatures have, the faster you can fill up mana or the higher you can trigger your multipliers in ATTACK, while in DEFENSE the higher amount of dots the higher the creature's initiative will be.
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Rock
Rock

Tavern Dweller
posted November 04, 2017 04:38 PM
Edited by Rock at 14:27, 17 Nov 2017.

Good stuff Galaad!
A few things I would like to add for new players.

It is best to save energy and challenge points from the reward tab, if you still have some of the resource left. Excess energy will go to waste once you lv up. Try timing the lv up with the last energy used. Challenge points will not recharge if you have 5 of them. Again, save energy and challenge points, from the reward tab, until you need them and are empty.


Stronger creatures:
There are 5 ways of making creatures you use stronger

1. Levels and # of stars
2. Tomes
3. Totems
4. Awakening
5. Keeps/Shrines in kingdom
6. Enchants

Enchants can vary very much on what you get. I recommend the stat boosts for bronze enchants. HP enchants being the best one. The others offer too much randomness and too low % to be any effective. Gold enchants gets ridicules expensive. Silver can be worth it, but don't rush for it. A good bronze enchant can be better than a bad silver one.


Tickets
If you have a decent amount of creatures, it's best to save as many tickets as possible for ticket summoning events. Under these events, the chance to get a 3/4 dot creature is increased. You are also guaranteed a 3/4 dot for every multi summon.


Epic essences
There are 3 ways I know of that one can get epic essences.
1. Dungeon challenge
2. Token summoning event
3. Lady of the lake

Token summoning events are in different colors, and the gold chest can give epic essences.
Lady of the lake can give epic essences from the gold all chest. The color is based on the "Lady", and Sundays can give all colors. the succubus gives a random color.

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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted November 06, 2017 11:54 PM
Edited by Galaad at 14:23, 11 Nov 2017.

Thanks Rock!

Which creatures where
(this is incomplete but I put the ones I think of, help to complete is appreciated)

Bayou

Spider, Lizardman, Zombie, Skyskewer, Jianghsi

Battle of Bards

Muse, Clurichaun, Wyvern, Hippogryph, Firebug, Voodoo doll, Hummingbird, Wold

Might over Magic

Bee, Butterfly, Skeleton, Sky Vizier, Goblin Bombarder

Pyrat

Pirate Kobold

Shadows in the Sand

Mummy, Skeleton, Dwarf Warrior, Boggart, Gargoyle, Spider, Wildkin, Rat, Butterfly

Scorched Earth

Hellhound, Wyvern, Firebug, Ant, Horned Dragonling, Mantis, Fairy Dragon, Troll, Shroom, Shrub

Ivor Excavation

Ornithopter, Gnome Arbalest, Grenadier, Owl, Clockwork, Rimfrost Eagle, Penguin



In general Grand Wish quests gives some corresponding strong mediums and smalls meta.
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Rakshasa92
Rakshasa92


Famous Hero
posted November 07, 2017 03:41 PM

I sometimes got a epic essence from the lady of the lake by taking only the 25 diamond chests.

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Rock
Rock

Tavern Dweller
posted November 17, 2017 02:35 PM

Here are some more creatures and where to find them:

Grand wish - Red
woodchick
Hellion

Might over Magic
Mister Shroom
Mask
Flying Squirrel
Frantic Fowl
joker
Kitten mage

Knight Time
Mechanical Owl
Clockwork
Dwarf Footman
Sky Vizier

Would be really nice to make a complete list that we could link

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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted November 17, 2017 09:03 PM

Rock said:
Would be really nice to make a complete list that we could link


That would be top notch
Thx for your entries!
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Dengar
Dengar

Tavern Dweller
posted November 18, 2017 05:48 PM

Galaad said:
TOWER is especially nice if you happen to have too much energy. When there is no drop I don't finish the fight to not gain XP and energy was not wasted, as I had a run for potential creature drop.
If you get a 3/4 dot from questing, Tower is the fastest place to farm for dupes as you can really target specific creatures.


How do you exactly do this? When I start the tower level I want to farm at the start it subtracts the energy needed? Or is it something i'm missing? U never get a refund if u don't finish the fight and so your energy is wasted.
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The_Polyglot
The_Polyglot


Promising
Supreme Hero
zombie
posted November 18, 2017 09:08 PM

He means that even though he could have had a creature drop, he intentionally abandoned the run once it became clear that he wouldn't get a drop after all.

Two things happen this way: he paid energy to maybe get a drop - this energy is lost once he quits the run. More importantly, what he DOESN'T get is the XP he would have gotten for an essentially worthless run.

Now, this is a preferable outcome when you are very close to a levelup, but DON'T want to trigger the full energy refill just yet. Essentially, trying and failing in tower is a way to make the most of excess energy you have on hand. Doing the same thing in other environments always gets you some amount of xp, so it isn't safe when you emphatically DON'T WANT to gain ANY XP, while doing something productive with your leftover energy

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Dengar
Dengar

Tavern Dweller
posted November 18, 2017 09:27 PM
Edited by Dengar at 21:27, 18 Nov 2017.

The_Polyglot said:
He means that even though he could have had a creature drop, he intentionally abandoned the run once it became clear that he wouldn't get a drop after all.

Two things happen this way: he paid energy to maybe get a drop - this energy is lost once he quits the run. More importantly, what he DOESN'T get is the XP he would have gotten for an essentially worthless run.

Now, this is a preferable outcome when you are very close to a levelup, but DON'T want to trigger the full energy refill just yet. Essentially, trying and failing in tower is a way to make the most of excess energy you have on hand. Doing the same thing in other environments always gets you some amount of xp, so it isn't safe when you emphatically DON'T WANT to gain ANY XP, while doing something productive with your leftover energy


Ok thanx for explaining it.

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