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Thread: Donald Trump recognizes AlQods as Israelís capital city This thread is 8 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 · «PREV / NEXT»
LizardWarrior
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posted December 07, 2017 09:46 PM
Edited by LizardWarrior at 21:58, 07 Dec 2017.

AlHazin said:

@Liz: saying Jerusalem belongs to Jews is like Saying Mecca belongs to Saudi Arabia and Varican city to Italy. If I took Vatican and stopped you from reaching it youíd understand. Say what you want Israel has been crafted in pain and a lot of people suffered from it.


Well, Mecca belongs to Saudi Arabia, and Vatican is sort-of attached to Italy, but it's a city-state. And just because Jerusalem belongs to Israel, that doesn't mean that Muslims and Christians can't come there into pilgrimage. This is just about Palestine being super-butthurt. They lost it, now let it go.

AlHazin said:

Oh and I can single all of Europe with errr Zimbabweís army if Iím backed up by USA. Yeah, Israel ę†singled†Ľ us. When I say things will end in blatant I donít give pronostics on the outcome. If you can do so, I suggest you to get recruited in the strongest armiesí headquarters of this planet.


I doubt Israel was that backed up by US during the Six-day war with the arab league.
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Kipshasz
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posted December 07, 2017 09:56 PM

Wasn't it a SIX days war, and not a sixty day war?
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LizardWarrior
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posted December 07, 2017 09:59 PM

Oops my bad
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Baronus
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posted December 07, 2017 10:01 PM

AnkVaati said:
Oh my God


Dont blaspheme. Dont use Gods Name to decorate your post. Second commandment.

AnkVaati said:
@Baronus... what are you doing - have you learnt nothing from Poland's history? As a European you should be more worried about a certain other religion.

Hindus, Jews, Buddhists, Zoroastrians, Pagans etc. have the same interests as Christians. Splintering the west is only in the interests of communists and islamists. Most Traditional Catholics I know seem to realize this as well. The saints had a lot to say about Islam you know...


Its not mine. Its Our Lady. Its TRUE not a speculation. False messiah is coming. Antichrist too. Be prepared for next provocations.


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posted December 07, 2017 10:06 PM

No. Saudi Arabia doesnít give touristic visas, but they give visas to enter Mecca. Should them block Muslims a year, we would blow them up. Let them make it their capital city and you would see what intra-kebab removal is.

Also, as an Algerian citizen, I am forbidden from entering the Israeli territory (just like Geny is forbidden from entering Algeria). I canít go to Jerusalem, or check out Tell Abeeb. If I did, Israel wouldnít let me in and if they did, Algeria would kill me when I come back. Do you think you can something for me, hahaha?

Israel has and will always be backed up by USA, unless the conjoncture changes drastically.
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Kipshasz
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posted December 07, 2017 10:07 PM

So now Trump is the antichrist now? GG Baronus, you made Putin cry.


With this Trumpster's provocation, here's the most likely scenario:
HAMAS will play Rocket Men again, will get creamed by IDF and whine to the UN again. Rinse and repeat, same old bleeping story.
Oh yeah, and all the leftists are going to autistically screech for a few days, until Trumpster moves his finger again, like order THREE scoops of ice-cream.
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AnkVaati
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posted December 07, 2017 10:19 PM

Baronus said:
AnkVaati said:
Oh my God


Dont blaspheme. Dont use Gods Name to decorate your post. Second commandment.

AnkVaati said:
@Baronus... what are you doing - have you learnt nothing from Poland's history? As a European you should be more worried about a certain other religion.

Hindus, Jews, Buddhists, Zoroastrians, Pagans etc. have the same interests as Christians. Splintering the west is only in the interests of communists and islamists. Most Traditional Catholics I know seem to realize this as well. The saints had a lot to say about Islam you know...


Its not mine. Its Our Lady. Its TRUE not a speculation. False messiah is coming. Antichrist too. Be prepared for next provocations.


God's name in that context refers to YHWH, not 'God'..

According to who? What revelation? Some person in Poland?
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posted December 07, 2017 10:19 PM

Kipshasz said:

With this Trumpster's provocation, here's the most likely scenario:
HAMAS will play Rocket Men again, will get creamed by IDF and whine to the UN again. Rinse and repeat, same old bleeping story.


I laughed out loud.
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Baronus
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posted December 07, 2017 10:46 PM

Is only one God. Allah is God in arabic... You blaspheme too if its other language.
Some prophecies... In Poland we have the best prophecies because we are Mary Land. Not translated. I know its hard to understand for atheists. Im a specialist from this prophecies so you can trust me. In not a dumb Im not going to deceive me... I checked it and analize but in polish laguage. Its a lot!  I paste it because all of it will be in future and you will see its true. Now you see first step.

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posted December 08, 2017 02:16 AM

This topic is so interesting and gives a lot of valuable insight from many standpoints. I'm observing the discussion with increasing interest. With that said, I strongly suggest ignoring a certain inhoherent nutjob who is spewing offtopic and clearly isn't interested in dialogue of any kind. Hitting an easy target is very tempting and I understand this, but please, just ignore the tard. He's barely literate in English.

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posted December 08, 2017 02:20 AM

I'd also like to say that nearly all countries in the world so far think this is an idiotic move. It is only devout Trump apologists who come out and say this is a smart move, because they can't admit they supported a moron.
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posted December 08, 2017 03:28 AM

Two smart objections to your usual samrt arguments

a) all those countries "massively" rejecting Trump's decision had the opportunity during 20 years of useless debates to recognize Palestine state, exactly as they recognize Israel state. So in my opinion, they are the morons when complaining about the capital of a state not being the capital of a non state, as they decided not to give it any status. Those are the same who are on a limp status-quo in Syria because they are unable to decide on a solution, and then when Putin takes one and bombs the hell out of terrorists, they go hysterical and accuse him of war crimes. Pointing hypocrisy again and again, geez is like my gym routine.

b) he did a smart move for his political interests which is not the same as "smart" for everyone. But is not like he got it out from pocket over the day, it was a campaign promise, the same Bill Clinton, Bush and Obama did but then forget to fulfill. If you look at recent uploads, you see that a major columnist as Ben Shapiro, not much of a Trump fan as we know, is now in awe and dithyrambic. On whose articulated religious arguments I would be interested to hear Al Hazin's opinions, as I am clueless on such issue and it looks to be the core of everything here.
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posted December 08, 2017 05:23 AM
Edited by Blizzardboy at 05:23, 08 Dec 2017.

AlHazin said:

Also, as an Algerian citizen, I am forbidden from entering the Israeli territory (just like Geny is forbidden from entering Algeria). I canít go to Jerusalem, or check out Tell Abeeb. If I did, Israel wouldnít let me in and if they did, Algeria would kill me when I come back. Do you think you can something for me, hahaha?


Well hell, even in a lame/tired Israel thread I've learned something new. I didn't know you guys were blocking each other's visas. That is such a sad story.

How bad is this by the way? If an Israeli traveled to Algeria or somewhere else in the former Ottoman kebab consortium, would it be dangerous for them? Like would people be openly spitting, etc., or would people just go about their life and not get political?
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posted December 08, 2017 08:29 AM

We have tourists from Israel all the time, we also have jewish citizens, a mob doesnt put their head on a spike chanting Allah-u Ekber if that's what you're asking. But if you take a poll, almost everybody would vote pro-Palastine and there is a strong anti-semitic vibe in the mainstream media, especially among the pro-government Muslim media. Zionism conspiricies are part of their daily databank, if you catch a cold, it's either CIA or Mossad. (Well, to be fair, CIA did have a part in the latest coup attempt, and the one in 1980, those dont help.)
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posted December 08, 2017 09:30 AM
Edited by Blizzardboy at 09:38, 08 Dec 2017.

artu said:
(Well, to be fair, CIA did have a part in the latest coup attempt, and the one in 1980, those dont help.)


****, can't blame us for trying. Just make sure to return the favor when we eventually succeed. Preferably before 2020. Another 3 years is a really long time to wait.
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AnkVaati
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posted December 08, 2017 09:38 AM

artu said:
Well, to be fair, CIA did have a part in the latest coup attempt
You mean Sultan Erdogan wasn't doing a 'Reichstag fire' to squash the Kurds and the other opposition?
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AlHazin
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posted December 08, 2017 09:42 AM

In the first place an Israeli couldnít enter. If he succeeded, and was walking in the street known as an Israeli, knowing the Algerians he would be lynched, tortured and slain and all that, all pictured and filmed and sent to Israel.

It hasnít always been like that you know. We never had any problem with the Jews. We still donít actually, we have Jews living here since ages, those who fled you westerners when you were killing them in Spain, and the rest of Europe, what we have a problem with are the Israelis, itís Israel, that for us should simply not exist, and if it did surely not in the way it does.

So itís not religious, itís political.

But I speak for my country. In Morocco they would be fine, as Moroccans are rather ę†open minded†Ľ and slavish from our point of view. Egyptians have an Israeli embassy, because they are positioned next to them and because they are lame at war, so they are obliged to be traitors to the cause. As an example Egypt was supposed to administrate Gaza, and look at the situation now. Syrians always wait for another one to be at war with Israel to enter in. Iraq was overrated. Palestinians had no warring experience from 500 years of peace under the Turks.

It depends on which kind of Arab country you talk about. But generally speaking Algeria is the worst one for Israelis by far. I mean look, weíre rather far from the holy land, yet we created Palestine here, and have an embassy of palestine, and we fought in 1967 and 1973... etc. While you have Saudis who doesnít see the point investing in the conflict.

Turks are different. Itís not about former Ottoman empire itís about Arab and to a greater scale Muslim world.
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AnkVaati
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posted December 08, 2017 09:58 AM

AlHazin said:
In the first place an Israeli couldnít enter. If he succeeded, and was walking in the street known as an Israeli, knowing the Algerians he would be lynched, tortured and slain and all that, all pictured and filmed and sent to Israel.
Utter savagery, in other words... If my people were like that I'd be ashamed to death. I'd probably even long back to colonial times, honestly..

I'm not saying it's genetics or anything that causes some people to not advance past the primitive state akin to some wild beasts... but it's probably have a lot with values and ethics to do. Religion is the major source of values and ethics in most countries.

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posted December 08, 2017 10:01 AM
Edited by artu at 10:02, 08 Dec 2017.

Blizzardboy said:
artu said:
(Well, to be fair, CIA did have a part in the latest coup attempt, and the one in 1980, those dont help.)


****, can't blame us for trying. Just make sure to return the favor when we eventually succeed. Preferably before 2020. Another 3 years is a really long time to wait.

Except, if it had succeeded, then all the de facto power in the country would have been at the hands of the GŁlen Movement, an unelected imam living in America and his brainwashed, crypto followers of a cult, which have been infiltrating all institutions including law enforcement, judiciary, military schools and so on, by stealing exam questions and cheating. If anything is worse than Erdogan, that would be it.

@Ankvaati

No, he didnt stage the coup himself but took real advantage of the situation afterwards to go fully authoritarian.  A state of emergency had been declared then and it's still effective, which means the goverment has the authority to pass executive orders that function like laws. They dont have to legislate anything.
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posted December 08, 2017 10:05 AM

@Al

Is that because of Algeria's recent past being commando against France that it is politically more hot blooded?

Algeria doesn't come up in the news much. I didn't know it was so hardcore towards Israel until now.
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