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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: Best rampart hero?
Thread: Best rampart hero?
phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


Supreme Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
posted May 25, 2018 11:17 AM

Poll Question:
Best rampart hero?

Okay guys it's time for another favorite hero poll, this time for our good faction rampart.

Which hero do you consider the strongest of rampart?

Responses:
Ivor (Ranger)
Ryland (Ranger)
Mephala (Ranger)
Kyrre (Ranger)
Thorgrim (Ranger)
Aeris (Druid)
Elleshar (Druid)
Alagar (Druid)
Melodia (Druid)
Other (Write in comments)
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Ghost
Ghost


Supreme Hero
Therefore I am
posted May 25, 2018 04:45 PM

Rampart has a lot of good, also Gem. But I voted Ryland, when I played RoE, I chose him. Because of Fear spell (Tome of Earth's secret 4 level spell) by AI grew legion. Now I play all Rampart's type of heroes, but your know-how on hero list is possible sad. We look together that who says Gem.
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Drakon-Deus
Drakon-Deus


Legendary Hero
posted May 25, 2018 07:23 PM

I voted Kyrre but it's tough to choose only one.

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fred79
fred79


Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
SCOURGE OF THE H-SEA
posted May 26, 2018 04:37 AM

Ghost said:
Because of Fear spell (Tome of Earth's secret 4 level spell)


never heard this before. anyone care to expand on this, or is ghost just smoking rock again?

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Erdamon
Erdamon


Adventuring Hero
posted May 26, 2018 07:14 AM

Ghost said:
Fear spell (Tome of Earth's secret 4 level spell)


Man, I don't know what you're smoking but you have to give us as well.

Also in terms of Ramparts heroes, as we all know, Diplomacy wrecks everything in the long run.

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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


Supreme Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
posted May 26, 2018 08:13 AM

@Erdamon I have heard about the Fear spell before. (As if Earth Magic was'nt already powerful enough.) I don't see what it has to do with rampart or it's heroes though. (I never really understand anything Ghost is saying.)

You are right about Diplomacy, if all creatures can join, Diplomacy is incredibly broken. I still remember 4000 Evil Eyes joined me for free! Or how about hordes of dragons... Diplomacy can truly get ridiculously powerful.  

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firespirit
firespirit


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posted May 26, 2018 09:52 AM

Fear wasn't level 4, it was level 5. It was some sort of leftover spell only obtainable from Pyramids in RoE, but it had no function in the game. I believe it was made into a level 4 spell in an unofficial expansion.
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Ghost
Ghost


Supreme Hero
Therefore I am
posted May 26, 2018 10:53 AM

@Fred, Erdamon, firespirit

http://heroes.thelazy.net/wiki/Fear_(spell)
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fred79
fred79


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SCOURGE OF THE H-SEA
posted May 26, 2018 11:32 AM

@ ghost: if it was never actually implemented in the game as such, why even mention it? you'll just confuse people. and i've read that page before, but you made it sound like it was a hidden spell option that was actually useable in-game.

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Ghost
Ghost


Supreme Hero
Therefore I am
posted May 26, 2018 11:53 AM

@Fred

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgTMtFCnVDQ

is a different effect. Really, it does creature grows up. I played Fear spell about 18 years ago! Disabled Fear spell for AI, and then I played Diplomacy with against AI. Ryland was the best in Rampart in RoE. Now's all heroes are good, also Gem, for summon boat in RoE. Now Gem is only good memory, but it needs still, if you create a map, etc and random hero comes Gem by tricky.

EDIT Fear was a funny, but useless spell, for imbalance game.
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Weilan
Weilan

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posted May 30, 2018 12:24 PM

Erdamon said:
Ghost said:
Fear spell (Tome of Earth's secret 4 level spell)


Man, I don't know what you're smoking but you have to give us as well.

Also in terms of Ramparts heroes, as we all know, Diplomacy wrecks everything in the long run.


You will be amazed by how much you don't know about the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgTMtFCnVDQ

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the_green_drag
the_green_drag


Supreme Hero
posted May 30, 2018 08:06 PM

My man Ivor

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Erdamon
Erdamon


Adventuring Hero
posted May 30, 2018 08:33 PM

I stand corrected, my bad.

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monere
monere


Famous Hero
posted August 25, 2018 07:15 PM

Oh, man! This poll is brutal, because...

1) I LOVE Rampart (one of my favorite towns EVER), so it's hard to choose a favorite hero between kyrre and mephala

2) freaking Diplomacy, man. Sure, logistics specialists are a downright cheat (especially in long-ass games that I play), but even so, a hero that starts with Diplomacy is hard to beat by anyone, on any difficulty, in any moment of the game (early, or late). Amassing hordes of creatures brakes all strategies involved

Besides, it's not just any hero that starts with diplo, it's freaking Ryland. Speaking of which, I've just played a game 2 months ago against the AI where I land locked it somewhere in the underground so it can't bother me and let me do my routine (clear the entire map at my own pace, build ALL of the towns on the map, then sort my army and when I'm done fight him).

Well, in one of those games I was playing with... hmm, monere I think, and I had army from Conflux, Rampart and Dungeon I think. Let me tell you, the 8500 dendroids that I've had have won the game for me. They have been the last man standing, and the damage they dealt was insane (around 400k damage on Titans, when the enemy had better stats and better army than me anyway, like +8 or +9 more attack and defense than me, plus the usual expert offense / archery / armor + the usual bow of the sharpshooter, elixir of life and whatnot).

Yeah, yeah, I know what you will say: that the AI is stupid and doesn't pose a threat and blah blah blah. I agree with you, but I'm not playing Heroes to be the best in the world, I play it for other reasons, one of which is that I freaking LOVE the game. But anyway, that's not the point I wanted to make...

What I wanted to say was that of all my army (including the 2400 Magic Elements under Monere, which in WoG really hurt when they hit you, and really die harder due to WoG's mechanics)... well, of all those nasty creatures I've had in my army the 8500 dendroids are the ones who have won the game for me. They were hard to kill, and they were dealing - like I said - around 400k damage on Titans and about 385k damage on Archanagels. Sure, I helped them with bless (I swear that's the only spell they've had on), but even so... it was nasty for the AI. And they haven't even been under Ryland, which brings me to this point...

... picking a best hero for Rampart is freaking HARD to do, because is so situational...

And yet, I've picked Ryland over Mephala and Kyrre simply because of the nasty Diplomacy skill. If we're only talking about specialty alone then, yes, nothing beats logistics specialists. But again, it's a tough decision to make, and extremely situational.

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