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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: The Most useless spell in Heroes?
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Ranger_Gelu
Ranger_Gelu


Adventuring Hero
Looking for Armageddon's Blade
posted June 07, 2018 06:01 PM

The Most useless spell in Heroes?

What do you think is the most useless spell in the entire Heroes 3? Admit it, there are some spells you rarely use. I find Sacrifice spell the least practical because you need to get rid of a stack in order to revive the other and by the time you get the spell, you are more likely to have the resurrection spell in max proficiency.

What do you think is the most useless spell in the game?

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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


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Heroes is love, Heroes is life
posted June 07, 2018 06:07 PM
Edited by phoenix4ever at 18:08, 07 Jun 2018.

Disguise VS AI of Expert or Impossible difficulty as the spell does absolutely nothing.

Sacrifice is a very good spell, though I admit I use it very rarely VS AI as Resurrection/Animate Dead is usually enough.

Other candidates for horrible spells:
Magic Mirror, Slayer, Misfortune, Land Mine, Remove Obstacle and Protection From Water.

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Ranger_Gelu
Ranger_Gelu


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Looking for Armageddon's Blade
posted June 07, 2018 06:20 PM

So that spell doesn't give the player good enough cover or does the AI simply see through the spell?

Also, I could agree with most of the other candidates, maybe except the land mines, because they could come in handy in early-to-mid game. It's a little odd that you pointed out Protection from Water as a likely candidate out of those 4 spells. Why do you think it deserves a place as a worthless spell?

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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


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Heroes is love, Heroes is life
posted June 07, 2018 06:25 PM

At expert/impossible AI sees through Disguise, so it does'nt do anything at all.

I never use Land Mines, far too expensive spell, you can't be sure it hits anything, it does'nt stop the enemy like Quicksand and it does far too little damage.

Protection from Water I consider the worst Pretection From-spell, since water does'nt have any strong offensive spells, unlike the other schools which have Armageddon, Implosion, Meteor Shower and Chain Lightning.

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Ranger_Gelu
Ranger_Gelu


Adventuring Hero
Looking for Armageddon's Blade
posted June 07, 2018 06:41 PM

So then we got 3 main candidates: Sacrifice, Disguise and Protection from Water? Now which one is the most useless out of those?

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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


Supreme Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
posted June 07, 2018 06:44 PM

Disguise since it does'nt do anything at all.

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Ranger_Gelu
Ranger_Gelu


Adventuring Hero
Looking for Armageddon's Blade
posted June 07, 2018 06:47 PM

Aaand let's have a round of applause to today's winner: DISGUISE!

Clap it up, everybody

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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


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Heroes is love, Heroes is life
posted June 07, 2018 06:50 PM

That was fun.

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Ranger_Gelu
Ranger_Gelu


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Looking for Armageddon's Blade
posted June 07, 2018 09:29 PM

Come again to the show next time! The topic: The most useless unit you could build from a settlement.

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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


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Heroes is love, Heroes is life
posted June 07, 2018 10:37 PM

^^ That has to be Walking Dead or Peasant if you would call a neutral building a settlement.

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Ranger_Gelu
Ranger_Gelu


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Looking for Armageddon's Blade
posted June 08, 2018 04:15 AM

I meant a unit from a town, otherwise it would be too easy

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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


Supreme Hero
posted June 09, 2018 01:04 AM

Meh, Peasants dwellings are a pain in the ass if near Necropolis, it's 25 extra skeletons per week. And they seem to appear near Necropolis placed in the underground quite often but maybe that happens only in certain templates.

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fred79
fred79


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Undefeatable Hero
SCOURGE OF THE H-SEA
posted June 09, 2018 05:40 AM
Edited by fred79 at 05:41, 09 Jun 2018.

simple. just replace the peasants with something else. they're a baseline creature with no skills, so it's easy to swap them out with something less useless. after replacing the creature's def files, image files, their dwelling, and a quick tampering with a text file; walah! no more useless creature.

i replaced the peasant with axolotl's tentoslimus(what i call "tunnel slugs"), myself:


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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


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Heroes is love, Heroes is life
posted June 09, 2018 08:09 AM
Edited by phoenix4ever at 08:14, 09 Jun 2018.

^^ Wow that certainly is interesting and nice work Fred.
Personally I just improved stats of peasants, so they are comparable to a normal skeleton. (And lowered their growth and upped their cost.)

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fred79
fred79


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SCOURGE OF THE H-SEA
posted June 09, 2018 08:22 AM

phoenix4ever said:
^^ Wow that certainly is interesting and nice work Fred.


not my work, dude.

Quote:
i replaced the peasant with axolotl's tentoslimus(what i call "tunnel slugs"), myself

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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


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Heroes is love, Heroes is life
posted June 09, 2018 10:00 AM

Okay nice work Axolotl, then. (Who is that anyway?)

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fred79
fred79


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SCOURGE OF THE H-SEA
posted June 09, 2018 10:05 AM

he's another bad-ass 3d artist that put in work, that seems to have drifted off from the modding scene.

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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


Supreme Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
posted June 09, 2018 10:16 AM

Well obviously he is very talented.
Does the slug have any special abilities?

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fred79
fred79


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Undefeatable Hero
SCOURGE OF THE H-SEA
posted June 09, 2018 10:39 AM

not sure what he does with them, but i've got mine set up to be mind-spell immune and to always have neutral morale. i use them as neutral subterranean creatures to accompany dungeon(i think every terrain needs their own specific neutral creature).

sorry for the off-topic.

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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


Supreme Hero
posted June 09, 2018 03:44 PM

fred79 said:
i think every terrain needs their own specific neutral creature.

I really like that idea. Certain creatures, like Lava Sharpshooters, seem to have a special place of their own.

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