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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: Has anyone done this challenge?
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longtry
longtry


Adventuring Hero
posted June 26, 2019 09:35 AM

Has anyone done this challenge?

Hi there,

I'd love to know whether someone on the forum has finished what I deem as the ultimate AI challenge. That is: playing a 1v7 allied on hardest difficulty, random XL map with underground, and random starting hero, town & bonus. Do 4 games and win at least 3 to filter out any chances of good or bad luck start.

If people have did it already, could you please kindly point me to the links or videos?

Thanks!
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monere
monere


Supreme Hero
posted June 26, 2019 09:58 AM

I think the challenge would be bigger on S/M map because on XL map you have space to maneuver. Still, I don't think pros will have any problems even in this scenario, but I'd also like to see that
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Richard_Chen
Richard_Chen


Adventuring Hero
posted June 26, 2019 10:01 AM

This challenge I think is easy for the experienced player on random map. Maybe half of them can win all of this four games. But I am not sure I can make it or not.

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longtry
longtry


Adventuring Hero
posted June 27, 2019 12:16 PM

monere said:
I think the challenge would be bigger on S/M map because on XL map you have space to maneuver. Still, I don't think pros will have any problems even in this scenario, but I'd also like to see that
I'm in the process of watching a S map match. Since it's so small, and humans always go 1st, a player can most assuredly kill at least 1 opponent without any chance of the AI play a turn. So it's like 1v6...
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monere
monere


Supreme Hero
posted June 27, 2019 12:25 PM

well, if he can't beat the AI 1vs6 then the challenge is too big anyway to go 1vs7

keep me posted on the outcome of the game
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longtry
longtry


Adventuring Hero
posted June 27, 2019 12:34 PM

Richard_Chen said:
This challenge I think is easy for the experienced player on random map. Maybe half of them can win all of this four games. But I am not sure I can make it or not.
You're too humble! But anyway, win or lose, those games will be a valuable learning experience for everyone, especially me. So please do it... for science!
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Caracal
Caracal


Adventuring Hero
posted June 27, 2019 04:51 PM

There is a guy who is already doing such feats on YouTube. I forgot his name but type heroes 3 200%. He will come up. He also makes it hard by setting rules like "without leaving starting area" or with level 1 units only. That kind of stuff

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Wog refugee
posted June 27, 2019 07:36 PM

That is new to me: win without leaving starting area. Would love to see it.

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Otuken
Otuken


Known Hero
posted June 27, 2019 07:38 PM

I have did it already in a lot of times but not with random towns/heroes. Some towns like Dungeon sucks in %200 and I mostly play with Inferno. Starting hero Octavia, Calh or Fiona.

I play only HotA too. Its not actually hard its even becomes much more easier if you are able to build fire lake in week 1. In some maps i can even build Capitol and forsaken palace in week 3.

I mostly upgrae only Pit Fiends having one of the best unupgraded army help a lot. And once you break Drago Uthopias with your demon stacks, learn Expert Earth/Air, Logistic, Offense, Defense, Intelligence, Diplomacy, Wisdow (Demoniacs have good chance) its just gg for AI.

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CountBezuhoff
CountBezuhoff


Famous Hero
Master of the merchant's guild
posted June 27, 2019 09:52 PM

Caracal said:
There is a guy who is already doing such feats on YouTube. I forgot his name but type heroes 3 200%. He will come up. He also makes it hard by setting rules like "without leaving starting area" or with level 1 units only. That kind of stuff


Yeah, the channel's name is TheKnownWorld. He also does streams every Saturday.

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longtry
longtry


Adventuring Hero
posted June 28, 2019 02:05 PM

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with level 1 units only
Now that's really hardcore. I hope they're not only skeletons.
Salamandre said:
That is new to me: win without leaving starting area. Would love to see it.
To me too. In a traditional way, winning in H3 means capturing all the towns & eliminating all opponent heroes. How can that be achieved if you stay in place??
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longtry
longtry


Adventuring Hero
posted June 28, 2019 02:08 PM
Edited by longtry at 13:45, 01 Jul 2019.

Otuken said:
I have did it already in a lot of times but not with random towns/heroes. Some towns like Dungeon sucks in %200 and I mostly play with Inferno. Starting hero Octavia, Calh or Fiona.
I play only HotA too.
Then you didn't really do this particular challenge. How about giving it a try this time? That may mean leaving your comfort zone of Dungeons (er... no puns intended beforehand) but I think the adventure would be epic!
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Yeah, the channel's name is TheKnownWorld. He also does streams every Saturday.
Thanks! Will check that out.

EDIT: turns out the S video I was watching is by that guy TKW.
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well, if he can't beat the AI 1vs6 then the challenge is too big anyway to go 1vs7
keep me posted on the outcome of the game
He did win it, @monere. Really fast. But he used skeletons, so the difficulty might be lowered, like 2 levels?

I've tried searching around his channel, but there's actually no game where he started everything random (hero, town, bonus). Does that guy have an active account on our forum? If not, how should I request him? Cause I think commenting on the video won't get attention.
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CountBezuhoff
CountBezuhoff


Famous Hero
Master of the merchant's guild
posted July 01, 2019 02:24 PM

He reads most of his comments. You can also try to reach him through his streams (every Saturday on Twitch). He seems always eager to try out new things, so you might win him over.... But don't expect a video anytime soon (he uploads once in a blue moon).

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monere
monere


Supreme Hero
posted July 01, 2019 02:56 PM

longtry said:
He did win it, @monere. Really fast. But he used skeletons, so the difficulty might be lowered, like 2 levels?

um, with necro is easier, so I'm not gonna count that as winning the challenge

Thanks for the heads up
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CountBezuhoff
CountBezuhoff


Famous Hero
Master of the merchant's guild
posted July 01, 2019 05:02 PM

I think he did a proper one later.

@Sal

Not leaving the starting area for 6 months was only the first part of the challenge. After that he was free to wipe the AI. I think he named the video "Siege survival".

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CountBezuhoff
CountBezuhoff


Famous Hero
Master of the merchant's guild
posted July 01, 2019 09:42 PM

@Longtry
He uploaded today. I'm pretty sure he reads almost all comments, so go for it!

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Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
posted July 01, 2019 10:35 PM

I leaved at 10th minute when he unlocks a ranger from prison, takes his dwarves and centaurs then keeps moving on swamp with main hero, 3 dwarves on, saying they might be useful later.

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longtry
longtry


Adventuring Hero
posted July 02, 2019 08:24 AM
Edited by longtry at 11:10, 06 Jul 2019.

CountBezuhoff said:
@Longtry
He uploaded today. I'm pretty sure he reads almost all comments, so go for it!
Thank Count for the heads up! I've left a comment there.
Assuming a player's skill goes up with time, the newest video might as well be his best. Guess I'll spend 6hrs with him.

EDIT:
OK I've watched the better part of that video. Impressive skills indeed. But there's something I'm not comfortable with. It's about his too fast actions. He mouses-over or right clicks at some castle or terrain or (especially) units to see details, but does it in a helluva swift manner. After I can't see some important stuff, I rewind 5 seconds but still can't press pause quick enough to look at things, so I rewind again only to miss the moment 1 more time. Thus the only way to do it is to set the speed to 0.25x, which is annoying; and it's frustrating having to do that, reset to normal, and do it again very frequently.
I have a feeling that this guy doesn't care much for the viewers.. right? He plays mostly for him only. This may be just me, but I also feel he doesn't explain his decision carefully enough, either. Do you guys know other channels which have the same or higher skills but are a bit more friendly to slower players?

On another note, what mod or extension does he have, that allow him to do some very convenient army swap? Or split a stack of 30 gnolls into 6 stacks of 25-1-1-1-1-1 in just under a second?
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angelito
angelito


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
posted July 25, 2019 10:16 PM

Can you even lose a game with the settings given in opening post?
XL map + underground vs AI?...lol...
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CountBezuhoff
CountBezuhoff


Famous Hero
Master of the merchant's guild
posted July 26, 2019 02:39 AM

angelito said:
Can you even lose a game?


Made a small correction there, hehehe.

Also,@longtry, that's the HD mod he's using.

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