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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: Thane and Iona
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Hourglass
Hourglass


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posted September 30, 2019 12:24 AM

There's a reason why some towns were left without lvl 1 creature speacialists. If tower had a gremlin speacialist, it would likely be the best hero in that town. I think the best idea to resolve this issue would be delete the other hero completely (for the sake of simplicity), and create another hero that would have a non-creature speciality.

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phoenix4ever
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posted September 30, 2019 01:01 PM

Also if the amount of starting gremlins were decreased for all Tower heroes?
Perhaps you are right, it's just a little boring with similar heroes like Thane and Iona, Thunar and Erdamon, Jeddite and Alamar, Tamika and Clavius etc.
Conflux is boring in the hero department, Necropolis is not that exciting either...

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NimoStar
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posted September 30, 2019 01:43 PM
Edited by NimoStar at 13:47, 30 Sep 2019.

Well, a majority voted to make ONE of them a gremlin specialist. I don't think many cared who they was.

The point is to not have two genie specialists. They could have another specialty as long as it was different. Same with other "repeated" heroes.

The specialty also woudn't have to be same as the normal one either. It could give just gremlins +1 hp, +1 every ten levels to not be OP with archer gremlins.

After all, for example, Conflux's Earth Elemental Specialist does not give the normal bonus but +5 dmg.

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RerryR
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posted September 30, 2019 03:42 PM

NimoStar said:
Well, a majority voted to make ONE of them a gremlin specialist. I don't think many cared who they was.

The point is to not have two genie specialists. They could have another specialty as long as it was different. Same with other "repeated" heroes.

The specialty also woudn't have to be same as the normal one either. It could give just gremlins +1 hp, +1 every ten levels to not be OP with archer gremlins.

After all, for example, Conflux's Earth Elemental Specialist does not give the normal bonus but +5 dmg.



This!
Unique heroes and a broader range of heroes specialties.
Also remove all 6 Eagle Eye specialists please ^^  

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phoenix4ever
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posted September 30, 2019 03:55 PM
Edited by phoenix4ever at 15:56, 30 Sep 2019.

There are actually 7 Eagle Eye specialists + Ash that starts with Eagle Eye.
I've tried maining Serena a few times for "fun" and every time she manages to learn exactly 0 spells through Eagle Eye. It does'nt help Tower has so many heroes with Scholar either.

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monere
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posted September 30, 2019 04:35 PM
Edited by monere at 16:37, 30 Sep 2019.

phoenix4ever said:
There are actually 7 Eagle Eye specialists + Ash that starts with Eagle Eye.
I've tried maining Serena a few times for "fun" and every time she manages to learn exactly 0 spells through Eagle Eye. It does'nt help Tower has so many heroes with Scholar either.
LOL. Damn you, lucky b4st4rd! You've managed to learn a whooping 0 spells. How does it feel to have so much power?

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phoenix4ever
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posted September 30, 2019 04:57 PM

Like starting with Ballistics, completely useless.
Eagle Eye has managed to work a few times for defending heroes though, but nothing more than 1-3 spells max. and not necessarily of a magic school I want.

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Hourglass
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posted September 30, 2019 06:55 PM

phoenix4ever said:
Also if the amount of starting gremlins were decreased for all Tower heroes?



You would rather nerf all other tower heroes for the sake of there being a hero that was never in the game before?

I thought the idea on this topic was to think how to differentiate Iona and Thane. Like creating a reason why you would to pick one over the other. There are other ways of doing that, and most of them don't need any balancing moves for other heroes and for the town itself.

phoenix4ever said:
Perhaps you are right, it's just a little boring with similar heroes like Thane and Iona, Thunar and Erdamon, Jeddite and Alamar, Tamika and Clavius etc.
Conflux is boring in the hero department, Necropolis is not that exciting either...


Conflux was rushed, I wish Hota would completely redesing it in the future. When speaking about Conflux hero desing (or the lack of it), take a look at all their hero biographies. Extremely dull and repeating stories, bah, clearly shows how this town was made in such a hurry.

Jeddite and Alamar are also a problem, but I don't really see any issues with Clavius and Tamika, they have different roles at least. (Clavius being a better being a support hero, and Tamika is one you can think of being your main.)

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phoenix4ever
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posted September 30, 2019 08:16 PM
Edited by phoenix4ever at 20:18, 30 Sep 2019.

Well I knew there would be coming some comments about a gremlin specialist being OP and I agree if it's starts with 3 stacks of 30-40 gremlins. HotA also nerfed Shakti from 3 stack of 30-40 troglodytes to 3 stacks of 20-30 troglodytes, which is still nice in the beginning.
If any level 1 creatures specialist is OP it's Galthran, which is also (mostly) banned in HotA. Galthran gets the greatest attack and defense bonus of all creature specialists + he makes skeletons, now that is OP.

Yeah clearly Conflux was very rushed, it could have used some more development time.

Tamika and Clavius is exactly the same hero, except for their specialty.

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zmudziak22
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posted October 05, 2019 04:51 PM

I would reconsider making Torosar as Archery spec for Tower, why? Tower Blacksmiths sells Ammo Cart, so he cannot rebuy it unless he visit war machines shops or visit towns which provides ballista. Second, he doesnt even have artillery skill comparing to other Ballista Heroes. 3rd one, archery suits for Tower(3 shooters), he would be 2nd best hero for Tower(after Neela Armor).

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