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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: Redundant morale and luck
Thread: Redundant morale and luck This thread is 4 pages long: 1 2 3 4 · «PREV / NEXT»
AlexSpl
AlexSpl


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posted March 11, 2020 12:06 PM

Oh, my fault. I gorgot about bad morale. It's not here.

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phoenix4ever
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posted March 11, 2020 12:07 PM
Edited by phoenix4ever at 12:09, 11 Mar 2020.

Could you post morale AND luck +24 to -12 (or -24) then?

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AlexSpl
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posted March 11, 2020 12:09 PM
Edited by AlexSpl at 12:09, 11 Mar 2020.

Currently for Good Morale and Luck. But the numbers above are for Good Morale only.

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phoenix4ever
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posted March 11, 2020 12:11 PM

AlexSpl said:
For Morale you have to change 4 commands (+/- 24 cap):

C7 45 0C 03 00 00 00 -> C7 45 0C 18 00 00 00
83 F8 FD -> 83 F8 E8
C7 45 08 FD FF FF FF -> C7 45 08 E8 FF FF FF
83 F8 03 -> 83 F8 18

This is only for +24 morale?
What about +24 luck then?

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AlexSpl
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posted March 11, 2020 12:16 PM
Edited by AlexSpl at 12:17, 11 Mar 2020.

For Bad Morale -



Just like in the previous example change underlined 03 and FD. For Bad Morale, the cap, of course, -12 (or F4 in hex).

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This is only for +24 morale?
What about +24 luck then?

Just replace all underlined 03.

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phoenix4ever
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posted March 11, 2020 12:21 PM

Ok thank you.

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Baronus
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posted March 11, 2020 12:28 PM
Edited by Baronus at 12:31, 11 Mar 2020.

Baronus

10 points more for mluck its 42% more damages.
10 points attack/defence gives about 40% more so its similiar.
Atack give 5%, deffence 2.5% mluck 4.2%. I think all those can be 4% and all can be normal statistics. It gives more gameplay depth. And more progress options.

Thank you very much Alex! It gives a lot! Next we need repair negative luck!

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AlexSpl
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posted March 11, 2020 12:41 PM
Edited by AlexSpl at 12:42, 11 Mar 2020.

Morale and Luck were heavily exploited in offline tournaments. There were many ideas how to change their mechanics. I proposed to change them so that a player could choose when he wants Morale or Luck. But, of course, he should be able to 'summon' them a limited number of times during a single battle, and the cost of such a 'summoning' should depend on AI value of a battle stack.

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phoenix4ever
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posted March 11, 2020 12:51 PM

It still bothers me I can't see whether a creature has +3 or +6 in combat, it was a great idea otherwise.

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AlexSpl
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posted March 11, 2020 12:58 PM
Edited by AlexSpl at 12:59, 11 Mar 2020.

Alas, you can only see bonuses of your creatures. To see the numbers you definitely need a plugin. It's a lot of work in hex.

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phoenix4ever
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posted March 11, 2020 01:05 PM

Yes I know, that's why I'm sadly gonna drop this idea for now.
I like my idea with knights getting Luck and Ufretin and Melodia getting Leadership though, so that will have to be the second best option for now.

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AlexSpl
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posted March 11, 2020 01:14 PM

Do you want something like this?


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phoenix4ever
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posted March 11, 2020 01:17 PM

That would be great, but does it work with HD mod and HotA?

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AlexSpl
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posted March 11, 2020 01:20 PM

Works with HD mod. But I'm not sure about the cap. Here's a plugin by igrik - https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/m3wu5myx5ht0xxk/MonDecsription.dll

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phoenix4ever
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posted March 11, 2020 01:29 PM

But HD mod does'nt support plug-ins anymore, then I need to go way back to an old version, which will probably mess up some other stuff...

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AlexSpl
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posted March 11, 2020 01:35 PM

HD mod supports, it's Hota that doesn't.

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phoenix4ever
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posted March 11, 2020 03:41 PM

Hmm I ran into another problem.
I wanted the knights to start with Luck and Ufretin and Melodia to start with Leadership, but after switching knights chance of Leadership and Luck and Druids chance of Leadership and Luck the game crashes, I wonder if it has something to do with knights MUST start with Leadership or perhaps they need to also have it changed somewhere else?
Anyway none of the ideas work for now.

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Elvin
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What if Elvin was female?
posted March 11, 2020 08:30 PM

That happens because what you're doing is HERESY AND YOU SHALL BURN FOR IT!
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Juoksentelisinkohan?

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phoenix4ever
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posted March 11, 2020 10:24 PM

You come up with a better way to let knights take advantage of +10 morale or Melodia take advantage of +10 luck then...

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RerryR
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posted March 12, 2020 07:21 AM
Edited by RerryR at 07:26, 12 Mar 2020.

phoenix4ever said:
You come up with a better way to let knights take advantage of +10 morale or Melodia take advantage of +10 luck then...


use a game version that actually allows customizing your H3 game and not actively prevents it, which are basically all except HotA.

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