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VMaiko
VMaiko


Known Hero
posted April 16, 2020 08:41 PM
Edited by VMaiko at 16:12, 16 May 2020.

The Tides of War Mod [Beta] for ERA V.1.1.3

THIS MOD IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THIRD UPGRADES MOD.




This mod is a port of the original version of VCMI. I'm not the original author, all credits to their corresponding authors:

Witchking - Leader and 3d Artist.
Hobbicus - 2d, 3d Artist and Musician.
Trith - 3d Artist.
Nephretes - 3d Artist.
Sower - 2d and 3d Artist.
Drwal - 2d Artist.
Khemiel - 2d Artist.
avatar - json guy.

Others who helped create The Tides of War for VCMI:

fred79.
Andruids.
Undead Artist.
Ragoon.
MURArt.
Kuririn.

Differences between ERA and VCMI version.

-Interface and skin of the original mod adapted to ERA.
-To make them more even with Wog creatures, alternate creatures also have new abilities in Stack Experience.
-No new Creature Banks.
-No new Heroes.
-No new Artifacts. Partially new Artifacts.
-No new Spells.
-No new Secondary Skills.
-No new buildings in cities to build, however you can choose which creature can spawn in dwellings before you build them.
-Due to ERA limitations, some creature abilities based on new spells could not be replicated:

*Dryad: No longer uses symbiosis, but its upgraded version "Oak Dryad" has a new special ability.

*Abyssal Triton: Instead of attacking with "Trawl" now paralyzes.

*Dire Werewolf: Partially equal to his "Rage" ability, Werewolf of Wog was replaced by Dire Werewolf of The Tides of War, so they also have an additional ability that only Wog veterans know him.

*Ghost: Wog Ghost has been replaced by VCMI version, in my opinion they're exactly the same as the VCMI version due to their ability.

But don't be discouraged, in future releases it may probably be possible to add everything that's missing from the ERA Edition. This is Beta version.

DOWNLOAD The Tides of War v.1.1.5

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FirePaladin
FirePaladin


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Undercover modder
posted April 16, 2020 09:07 PM
Edited by FirePaladin at 22:03, 16 Apr 2020.

Nice. the models' creator is a russian polish guy, btw. Here's his thread (he also does third upgrade models for VCMI. You could contact him and ask him if you could use his models for your own mod, VMaiko): Additional Creature Upgrades

He's called Kuririn there. Also, this is the YT channel where his models are showcased: Centrum Heroes III

P.S. Skip the first pages. That was the start only. Later on he began making the 3D models.

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VMaiko
VMaiko


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posted April 16, 2020 09:19 PM

FirePaladin said:
Nice. the models' creator is a russian guy, btw. Here's his thread (he also does third upgrade models for VCMI. You could contact him and ask him if you could use his models for your own mod, VMaiko): Additional Creature Upgrades

He's called Kuririn there. Also, this is the YT channel where his models are showcased: Centrum Heroes III

P.S. Skip the first pages. That was the start only. Later on he began making the 3D models.


I know him, in fact I have seen his progress long before I created Third Upgrades mod for ERA 2, I can tell you little but I wait for VCMI's New Uprades to be released to use its final models.  I think the same author prefers it this way. That work is longer and has been working for years but it will be better done than my own mod and it will make more hype than Tides of War, that's why I hope it finishes soon and he doesn't give up.

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FirePaladin
FirePaladin


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Undercover modder
posted April 16, 2020 09:26 PM
Edited by FirePaladin at 21:28, 16 Apr 2020.

Oh well, that's nice. Did you collaborate or ever spoke to him (no problem if you don't want to tell, I'm just curious).

Edit: To be honest, I'd want him to share some models, especially naga's and Titan's, so I can 3D print them. But well, that's years of work, so maybe only after mod release or for money he's gonna do that.

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VMaiko
VMaiko


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posted April 16, 2020 09:29 PM

FirePaladin said:
Oh well, that's nice. Did you collaborate or ever spoke to him (no problem if you don't want to tell, I'm just curious).

Edit: To be honest, I'd want him to share some models, especially naga's and Titan's, so I can 3D print them. But well, that's years of work, so maybe only after mod release or for money he's gonna do that.


No, I only know him as a user, but I never contacted him and I doubt he will if I have to go to the acidcave forum to do it.

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FirePaladin
FirePaladin


Supreme Hero
Undercover modder
posted April 16, 2020 09:33 PM
Edited by FirePaladin at 21:33, 16 Apr 2020.

@VMaiko

Well, he always speaks after posting about 3D models on AcidCave.

But I dunno if he would ignore an english comment, lol.

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VMaiko
VMaiko


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posted April 16, 2020 09:36 PM

FirePaladin It seems that he prefers to speak more in Polish than in English, I had better wait until he wants to talk to me (if he wants to) and from there we do something.

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verriker
verriker


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Legendary Hero
We don't need another 'eroes
posted April 16, 2020 09:47 PM

FirePaladin said:
the models' creator is a russian guy, btw


just friendly FYI Tides of War is not Third Upgrades and Poland is not in Russia chief lol
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FirePaladin
FirePaladin


Supreme Hero
Undercover modder
posted April 16, 2020 10:03 PM
Edited by FirePaladin at 22:03, 16 Apr 2020.

verriker said:
FirePaladin said:
the models' creator is a russian guy, btw


just friendly FYI Tides of War is not Third Upgrades and Poland is not in Russia chief lol


Ah, sorry. I got too used to russians creating 80% of mods.

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VMaiko
VMaiko


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posted April 16, 2020 10:08 PM

FirePaladin said:
Ah, sorry. I got too used to russians creating 80% of mods.


Poles also have a talent for creating modifications but in VCMI.

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FirePaladin
FirePaladin


Supreme Hero
Undercover modder
posted April 16, 2020 10:51 PM

VMaiko said:
FirePaladin said:
Ah, sorry. I got too used to russians creating 80% of mods.


Poles also have a talent for creating modifications but in VCMI.


Oh yeah, I know very well. But I wasn't talking only about HoMM.

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xericsin
xericsin


Famous Hero
posted April 17, 2020 10:41 AM
Edited by xericsin at 10:42, 17 Apr 2020.

Hi, you can use something like this to simulate hell spike of succubus.

!?MF1;
!!UN:C42149568/4/?y10;
!!FU&y10<>4455011:E;[normal shot only]

!!VRz3:S^hellspike.def^;
!!FU16037:P0/3/93/100/1/0/1;  //调用自定义魔法动画函数 By 007


!?FU16037;
{
**x1=借用的BM:V动画编号(0-82)注意不是所有编号都能正确播放动画(需修改播放标志)
**x2=存储"外调的DEF动画名字"的z变量索引(不能使用负数z变量)
**x3=播放的坐标位置(0-187)
**x4=延时(播放速度,一般用100)
**x5=播放标志,施放动画的位置(0-4)(BM:V时会考虑堆栈的体积)--默认用0
**(经测试)  =0动画底部为基准,=1以动画中心为基准,=3?,=4英雄位置
**x6=播放标志,是否透明化(0否,1是)
**x7=是否自行修改播放标志(0否,1是)
!!FU|x1<0/x1>82/x2<0/x2>1000:E;[错误的动画索引或Z变量索引]
!!VRx3|x3<0/x3>187:S93;        [错误位置,放战场正中]
!!VRx4&x4<0:S100;
!!VRx5|x5<0/x5>4:S0;           [默认用0]
!!VRx6|x6<0/x6>1:S0;           [默认用0]
!!UN:C6919200/4/?y20;          [y20=战场内存]
!!VRy21:Sy20 +78568; [动画DEF]
!!VRy22:Sy20 +78572; [动画索引]
!!UN:C4454270/4/?y1;[BM:V调用动画时用到的基址]
!!UN:Cy21/4/0 Cy22/4/-1;[清除内存多余数据]
!!VRy2:Sx1 *12 +y1; [魔法动画名字的指针地址]
!!VRy3:Sy2 +8;      [魔法动画播放标志的内存(这里可由x5和x6组成)]
!!VRy4:Sx2 *512 +9597416;[z变量对应的内存地址(ERA下)]
!!VRy5:Sx6 *256 +x5;     [自定义播放标志(否则采用x1动画的原有标志)]
!!UN:Cy2/4/?y10;[原动画名指针]
!!UN:Cy3/4/?y11;[原有播放标志]
!!UN:Cy2/4/y4;  [新指针]
!!UN&x7<>0:Cy3/4/y5;           [自定义播放标志]
!!SN:E4810128/2/y20/x1/x3/x4/0;[调用内部函数播放战场动画]
!!UN:Cy2/4/y10;      [还原]
!!UN&x7<>0:Cy3/4/y11;[还原]
!!UN:Cy21/4/0 Cy22/4/-1;[清除内存多余数据]
}

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Liso1
Liso1


Known Hero
posted April 17, 2020 03:49 PM

The modification works very well, I believe we will see more updates.

I've done an extensive gallery:

Tides of War port for ERA gallery

BUG: Dragon Golem has same graphic as Drake Golem
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VMaiko
VMaiko


Known Hero
posted April 17, 2020 06:01 PM
Edited by VMaiko at 23:27, 17 Apr 2020.

Liso1 said:
The modification works very well, I believe we will see more updates.

I've done an extensive gallery:

Tides of War port for ERA gallery

BUG: Dragon Golem has same graphic as Drake Golem


Here I'm working on the new update that could be released today or tomorrow, so stay tuned, I found a mistake of mine also that Tritons could not be upgraded.


Update to v.1.1.0

[*] Triton's bug could not be Upgraded to Abyss Triton was fixed.
[*] Fixed Dragon Golem sprite identical to Drake Golem.
[*] Added Demilich, Dread Skipper, Mermaid  can now be freely generated on a random map including 2 new dwellings, for Demilich and Dread Skipper respectively.
[*] Various decorative objects that are generated on a random map have been added to give more life to the game.

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xericsin
xericsin


Famous Hero
posted April 21, 2020 07:36 AM
Edited by xericsin at 07:39, 21 Apr 2020.

Question:

What is the symbiosis alike? Maybe I can simulate it in era.

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Promising
Supreme Hero
posted April 21, 2020 10:36 AM

In vcmi version:
- Dryad and Oak Dyads can cast one ber battle spell called Symbiosis. But this spell can be casted only on Dendroid Soldiers and Dendroid Guards and efect is identical as Archangels' Ressurection.

Ressurected Dendroids by Dryads last only for end of the battle.
Ressurected Dendroids by Oak Dryads - efect is pernament.
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xericsin
xericsin


Famous Hero
posted April 21, 2020 06:09 PM

avatar said:
In vcmi version:
- Dryad and Oak Dyads can cast one ber battle spell called Symbiosis. But this spell can be casted only on Dendroid Soldiers and Dendroid Guards and efect is identical as Archangels' Ressurection.

Ressurected Dendroids by Dryads last only for end of the battle.
Ressurected Dendroids by Oak Dryads - efect is pernament.


OK. I have partially replicated this. But the revivals are all permanent. Each dryad has 10 resurrection points. Dead stack can be revived.

I need someone to look into the stack structure to find the location of revived units from basic resurrection, then the game manager can handle the temporary revival automatically.(I guess so.)

OR, I need a hook before calculating battle death, then I can manually handle the temporary revival.

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Promising
Supreme Hero
posted April 21, 2020 08:35 PM

In vcmi technically symbiosis are two separate spells - one to permament effect, second - for temporary.
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Nephretes
Nephretes


Promising
Known Hero
posted April 21, 2020 10:13 PM

Wow, good job! I wasn't expecting this to happen so fast and I am happy that someone liked it enough to port it

Btw. I am also one of main 3D artists here, so it would be nice to be put in credits as well. Thank you


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VMaiko
VMaiko


Known Hero
posted April 24, 2020 01:43 AM

Update to v1.1.3

[-] Succubi and Lilims can now attack with Hate spikes (thanks to xericsin).

[-] Quetzalcoatls are now immune to all creature effects (script fixed by PerryR).

[-] A Paladin ability removed that granted prayer to enemy creatures.

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