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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: Morale Questions
Thread: Morale Questions
excalibur
excalibur


Adventuring Hero
posted August 22, 2020 12:49 PM

Morale Questions

Hey guys,

I started preparing some Heroes 3 Tips/Guides videos and right now I am working on a Morale guide. So far, I have two questions and I need your help to make sure the info I provide in the video is accurate!

Question 1:
I always though that a creature's Basic morale is set to +1 and when you have any extra troop of the same alignment it gains an extra +1 so that would eventually lead to +2 morale. I only recently noticed that this is not the case since a creature by itself has already the bonus of "friendly alignment".

Most info on the web mentions though that "Presence of friendly alignment units in army increases Morale by 1" which basically isn't true since if you have one creature or three or four of the same alignment the morale is still just +1, right?


Question 2:
If you have an army of the same alignment but the Hero is a different town, does it affect morale somehow?

Please share with me your experience!
I may have more questions later!
Thanks a lot!

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Barbuta
Barbuta


Hired Hero
posted August 22, 2020 01:02 PM

Default morale of creatures = 0 morale

Creatures of 1 alignment = +1 morale
Creatures of 2 alignment = 0 morale
Creatures of 3 alignment = -1 morale
Creatures of 4 alignment = -2 morale
Creatures of 5 alignment = -3 morale

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Hourglass
Hourglass


Famous Hero
posted August 22, 2020 01:28 PM

excalibur said:

Question 2:
If you have an army of the same alignment but the Hero is a different town, does it affect morale somehow?



No, the hero's alligment doesn't affect on creatures' morale. Even living troops lead by necropolis heroes can get positive morale for example.

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Mortarial
Mortarial

Tavern Dweller
posted August 22, 2020 01:30 PM

Creatures from only one faction: + 1 morale. All neutral creatures count as the same faction.
3 or more factions: -1 for each faction starting with the third one.
Extra -1 morale if you have undead (Mummies included) in the army.

Hero alignment does not affect morale.

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Baronus
Baronus


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted August 22, 2020 04:09 PM

Extra bonus. Mino can be added to dead army and has no morale penalty :0)))

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excalibur
excalibur


Adventuring Hero
posted August 22, 2020 04:51 PM

Thank you guys for the help.
That thing with the units having 0 morale by default but already starting with 1 positive morale due to alignment will be a bit confusing to explain.

I've added everything I could think of from mixing creatures, to ground and artifacts and structures.
I included that part with the Minotaur too, thanks.

Any hidden things you might know will greatly help me too!
Thanks!

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excalibur
excalibur


Adventuring Hero
posted August 24, 2020 07:27 PM

Hey guys,

I completed the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NESVafZSWE&t

I would love some feedback and I am working on a "Luck" guide now.
In case you have some ideas please let me know, I would love to add them.

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Mortarial
Mortarial

Tavern Dweller
posted August 24, 2020 09:59 PM

There is also a Grave object in HotA that reduce Morale by 3 points if you dig it.

About luck:
Neutral creatures without a hero are unaffected by luck (Halflings, neutral alignment creatures on a Clover Field - bug, fixed in HotA).

For creatures with multitarget attack (Cerberus, Hydra) a lucky strike applies only to one target. The priority target for a lucky strike is chosen clockwise.

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Baronus
Baronus


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted August 24, 2020 10:11 PM

Interesting with Hydra. So its only one calculation and second is which target and thats all. It should be for all targets because luck is for each attack no for each unit. Opposite to this morale works for all heads. Its unhonest. Luck is penalised additionaly negative dont work. Big bugs.

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Phoenix4ever
Phoenix4ever


Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
posted August 24, 2020 10:14 PM

Yeah if luck only works against one stack, that makes it even more worse than morale.
At least there is negative luck in HotA.

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Ghost
Ghost


Legendary Hero
Therefore I am
posted August 24, 2020 10:32 PM

My Magic the Village-Forest (SoD map, 9 rating) has special story. You get a luck in the Cursed Land against Great Zeitgeist heh. I don't know does the same work on your machine. But my maps are always special story. Because I created.
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Fight MWMs - stand teach

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excalibur
excalibur


Adventuring Hero
posted August 24, 2020 11:17 PM

Mortarial said:


For creatures with multitarget attack (Cerberus, Hydra) a lucky strike applies only to one target. The priority target for a lucky strike is chosen clockwise.


That's interesting.
Didn't know that!
Let me know if you would me to credit to for that in the video.

Thanks!

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excalibur
excalibur


Adventuring Hero
posted September 02, 2020 11:31 PM

Mortarial said:
There is also a Grave object in HotA that reduce Morale by 3 points if you dig it.

About luck:
Neutral creatures without a hero are unaffected by luck (Halflings, neutral alignment creatures on a Clover Field - bug, fixed in HotA).

For creatures with multitarget attack (Cerberus, Hydra) a lucky strike applies only to one target. The priority target for a lucky strike is chosen clockwise.


Hey,

I am currently preparing the video and I was testing this out.
I casted Bless to ensure that Hydra will deal the same damage to all creatures around. As Luck shined, indeed only one was heavily damaged BUT not the one that I have targeted. Does the game choose a random monster for the Luck to apply?

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Mortarial
Mortarial

Tavern Dweller
posted September 03, 2020 10:03 AM
Edited by Mortarial at 10:35, 03 Sep 2020.

Target is chosen clockwise as I said before. Except for mid-bottom hex which has less priority than others after it.

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excalibur
excalibur


Adventuring Hero
posted September 03, 2020 07:24 PM

Ah, sorry you mentioned that indeed.

Thanks!

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excalibur
excalibur


Adventuring Hero
posted September 04, 2020 08:06 PM

Thanks once again for the help guys.
For anyone interested, the video is up!

Luck guide.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPe8D3u2wGY

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Hourglass
Hourglass


Famous Hero
posted September 05, 2020 10:39 AM
Edited by Hourglass at 10:39, 05 Sep 2020.

@excalibur

Nice vids, watched them both, and subscribed instantly.

However, one thing that caught my eye: In the morale video you state that neurtral cretures on adventure map cannot be mixed, and this is technicially right, because you worded it like that (if we don't count neutral garrisons and such). However, mixed neutral troops can be found even on RMG generated maps inside Dragon utopias and Temple of the seas (hota's water object.) As both objects have creatures from 2 alligments, they lose the morale bonus.

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excalibur
excalibur


Adventuring Hero
posted September 06, 2020 03:27 PM

Thank you very much mate!

You have a point there, nice catch!
Too late to fix it though.

Next video will be a guide about Marketplace!

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