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Heroes Community > Heroes 7+ Altar of Wishes > Thread: Best/Favorite/Most-Revolutionary PC strgy game(s) of the past two and a half decades!
Thread: Best/Favorite/Most-Revolutionary PC strgy game(s) of the past two and a half decades! This thread is 2 pages long: 1 2 · NEXT»
veteran_player
veteran_player


Adventuring Hero
posted September 19, 2020 07:38 PM

Poll Question:
Best/Favorite/Most-Revolutionary PC strgy game(s) of the past two and a half decades!

These are the most major titles that come to my mind....



I have played all of them!



Responses:
Command & Conquer
Heroes of Might and Magic: A Strategic Quest
StarCraft
Heroes of Might and Magic III ! ! !
Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri/Sid Meier's Alien Crossfire
World in Conflict/World in Conflict: Soviet Assault
StarCraft II
Heroes of Might and Magic V / 5.5
View Results!

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Rimgrabber
Rimgrabber


Famous Hero
It's a fixer-upper
posted September 19, 2020 09:00 PM

Without HoMM 1 there is no HoMM 3 or HoMM 5

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MattII
MattII


Legendary Hero
posted September 19, 2020 09:38 PM

You really need to differentiate between best/favourite and most revolutionary, since those two metrics are not at all related.

In favourites though, definitely Heroes 3, as it's the only game out of that list (you should have added an 'other' option) that I've actually played in the past year.

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Legendary Hero
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posted September 20, 2020 12:01 AM

Yeah, I think you could create a poll with franchises, instead of  intallments, sometimes repeating a same franchise over. I miss some very crucial games in that list, which sort of have their own moment in gaming industry, I reckon, like Warcraft, Age of Empires, the Settlers, Stronghold, King's Bounty; even if I haven't played every single one of them.

I can't answer that poll because of that.
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Baronus
Baronus


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted September 20, 2020 11:44 AM

Hard to talk if game has another system.
Turn based rpg big titles;
Defender of the crone
Kings Bounty
Warlords (of Illuria)
And from these games you have Heroes I which is top of all. Heroes III is only biggest HI but probably has zero innovation. Minimum in fact.
Big game was Master of Magic. But its Civilisation clone.
Interestnig system has Discples I/II
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Real time strategy its in fact simulator not a game. And cant be compared.

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FirePaladin
FirePaladin


Legendary Hero
Undorcover modder
posted September 20, 2020 12:19 PM

Bruh, they're still games.
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Stevie
Stevie


Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
posted September 20, 2020 01:55 PM

This poll is all over the place.
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MattII
MattII


Legendary Hero
posted September 20, 2020 02:29 PM

My personal favourite series is "Space Empires" by the now defunct Malfador Machinations.

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Baronus
Baronus


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted September 20, 2020 04:17 PM

Real time products beased on dexterity. So in fact these are all reality simulators. Of course a lot of sport disciplines are the same sort of. And we called it games. So these are similiar to sport. I mean computer games rather as similiar to chees.

Yes incorrect place on this thread. No connection with Heroes 8...


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veteran_player
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Adventuring Hero
posted September 20, 2020 06:00 PM

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Baronus said:
Real time products beased on dexterity. So in fact these are all reality simulators. Of course a lot of sport disciplines are the same sort of. And we called it games. So these are similiar to sport. I mean computer games rather as similiar to chees.

Yes incorrect place on this thread. No connection with Heroes 8...




Plenty of connection, actually! Heroes 8 is yet to be made. And these games provide the historical background it will be judged against... H7 flopped and H8 faces taller expectations from most of us..

I think multiplayer StarCraft/Battle.Net is the most successful title-holder of all. By comparison Heroes 8 is a hypothetical offshoot. I made this poll here, in consideration of the broader S.T.R.A.T.E.G.Y. field.


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FirePaladin
FirePaladin


Legendary Hero
Undorcover modder
posted September 20, 2020 06:31 PM
Edited by FirePaladin at 18:33, 20 Sep 2020.

Ubisoft won't be risky with HoMM8 anymore if they even decide to make it.

And well, everyone has literally no expectation from Ubi anymore, and no expectation HoMM8 will ever be made. And if HoMM8 goes and flips the HoMM gameplay again, Ubi can say goodbye to money once again, but since they won't risk it/suicide anymore, they won't do that.

And there are other games to look forward to rather than Ubi's HoMM8. Due to Ubi not doing anything with an actual HoMM title for years, other people took the initiative. Songs of Conquest, Countryballs Heroes (kinda), Fanstratics. Still these aren't exactly HoMM so they can take some gameplay liberties, although Fanstratics is supposed to be a spiritual successor of HoMM(3), so it will have less gameplay liberties than the other 2 titles. Besides that, CBH itself is basically HoMM3 with Countryballs.

And because of this, Baronus is right, this has no to little connection to Ubisoft's HoMM8
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veteran_player
veteran_player


Adventuring Hero
posted September 20, 2020 06:52 PM

FirePaladin said:
Ubisoft won't be risky with HoMM8 anymore if they even decide to make it.

And because of this, Baronus is right, this has no to little connection to Ubisoft's HoMM8


Ubisoft has already profited tremendously. Their share price is up and the euro is also up against the dollar. And I for one am not holding my breath in anticipation of HoMM8's release. While MMHVII has been a commercial product for several years, H8 is still only hypothetical. If the expectation of another commercial release is the only factor, I wouldn't be participating in these forums.

And I am already disappointed that the majority of voters are sticking to HoMMIII V.S. these other strategy contestants - with more merit...
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veteran_player
veteran_player


Adventuring Hero
posted September 20, 2020 07:34 PM
Edited by veteran_player at 20:00, 20 Sep 2020.

Being an old school player, I see little merit to reverence for an *arbitrary* sequel, one that is even dated. Apparently we haven't made much progress in the past 25 years. But I still do love HoMM1 to its core! Thanks to the one person who voted for it!

P.S.
Ubisoft would have to actually develop the HoMM8 blueprints from the fossils of HoMM1 and HoMM5, as opposed to making another sequel. I am not buying the Heroes 3 players' admiration, since it is just a popular expansion of sorts. It doesn't really, actually make its players ~Heroes~ in any way!
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FirePaladin
FirePaladin


Legendary Hero
Undorcover modder
posted September 20, 2020 08:26 PM
Edited by FirePaladin at 20:27, 20 Sep 2020.

HoMM1 -> HoMM3 core mechanics
HoMM5 -> HOMM3 in 3D, with Ashan and just some bonus skills, as well as alternate upgrade.


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veteran_player
veteran_player


Adventuring Hero
posted September 20, 2020 08:39 PM
Edited by veteran_player at 02:31, 27 Sep 2020.

FirePaladin said:
HoMM1 -> HoMM3 core mechanics
HoMM5 -> HOMM3 in 3D, with Ashan and just some bonus skills, as well as alternate upgrade.




veteran_player said:
veteran_player said:
Heroes 3 is a part of this phenomenon, one that has become inflated by idle internet users, imho.


And by this, I mean "S.P.A.M. P.L.A.Y.E.R.S."
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Little content... but a lot of participation!!!

The Heroes Community is actually better than that!


(At Times!!!)

Heroes 3 is a non sequitur!


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Ghost
Ghost


Legendary Hero
Therefore I am
posted September 20, 2020 09:24 PM

Wrong thread.

Ok Doom2, old Wolfenstein the Spear of Destiny, Westwood Monopoly, Settlers 3, Heroes 3 & 4.

Ok Doom3 and some other games.

I'm extra elite OP in Doom2 and Westwood Monopoly, nice Monopoly AI, I created strong AI. No easy to create AI, because mere number, code and math value.

I'm strong in H3 & H4 and WtSoD but no the same lvl with Doom2 and Monopoly.

I'm medicore in Settlers 3 and Doom3, but nice ninja style in Doom3, what I developed new trick about Doom2, when 3D permitted ninja. Example of I jump with roll from medium high and shot a imp head. Funny basic trick. I don't played too much.

I played Doom2 in about 16h/day, etc also Heroes3 in 16h/day, and WtSoD I never used medicine pack, when I never got a damage in my gaming success. I can be Doom3, I chose Heroes, I tried to tournament, but slow internet always be connect time went cutoff. Now I'm 42yo and i have a psychosis so..

Those games are the best. Why not also Doom3, I played but 2 months?
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veteran_player
veteran_player


Adventuring Hero
posted November 09, 2020 12:17 AM

Ghost said:
Wrong thread.

Ok Doom2, old Wolfenstein the Spear of Destiny, Westwood Monopoly, Settlers 3, Heroes 3 & 4.



Doom II was a great game!! I remember it from the 90s...

But Heroes is... more-complicated...

I don't think voting for Heroes 3, in this poll really makes you a Hero! But the world truly is full of silly white people!!

I actually appreciate diversity in gaming; As well as in real-life!
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MattII
MattII


Legendary Hero
posted November 11, 2020 08:48 AM
Edited by MattII at 08:52, 11 Nov 2020.

Looking at this again, there's too many titles to chose from, you should have counted the number of franchises, f.e.:
* Age of (Ensemble Studios)
* Total War (Creative Assembly/Feral Studios)
* -Craft (Blizzard)
* Command & Conquer (Westwood Studios et al.)
* Civilization (Sid Meier)
* The Settlers (Blue Byte)
* Heroes of Might and Magic (various)
* Cossacks (GSC Game World)
* Stronghold (Firefly Studios)
* Rise of Nations (Big Huge Games)

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Baronus
Baronus


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted November 11, 2020 09:16 AM

You lost very very innovative game Warlods 1 and especially Warlords 2 of Illuria. All Heroes gameplay based on it. Except battlefields.

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MattII
MattII


Legendary Hero
posted November 11, 2020 10:24 AM

Baronus said:
You lost very very innovative game Warlods 1 and especially Warlords 2 of Illuria. All Heroes gameplay based on it. Except battlefields.
Mm, official all the Heroes Series gameplay is based on the original King's Bounty, which makes sense given it was also developed by NWC.

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