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Thread: Questions about Era 3
artu
artu


Promising
Undefeatable Hero
My BS sensor is tingling again
posted February 12, 2021 12:17 AM

Questions about Era 3

Questions about Era 3

Hi, I havent been playing H3 for like 3 years and I got 2.4 with all of the mods from back then, the HD mod (again, some 3 year old version). Lately, I feel like going back to it so here are the questions.

1- Iím a Mac user and have Windows on boot camp for retro games mostly, so I still got Windows 7. Are the new versions of Era and HD mod functioning properly in this now unsupported system?

2- Are the old school Era Mods, especially little ones like Undead Ghosts compatible with new Era, I may give v3 a shot but if all the old mods are gone, Iíd be like fish out of water since I had my own set of mods with their proper order and so on.

3- Iíve read somewhere that the Wog Options page is now gone, so are the old wog options gone?

4- Is it possible to transfer my mod settings from Era 2 to Era 3? What would happen if I simply transfer related files from era 2 to era 3.

5- There used to be a page with all Era mods, their latest versions, Sal used to link them from his own server iirc, does that still exist? I have almost all the 3 year old versions archived but Iím guessing some have been updated.



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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
posted February 12, 2021 02:14 AM

Is THIS link opening for you?

Most mods (for Era II) are still there, except some of mines which I decided to throw away. But some of most recent mods work only on Era III I think, so hard to have all.

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artu
artu


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Undefeatable Hero
My BS sensor is tingling again
posted February 12, 2021 04:49 AM

Yes, the link works fine. Iím on iPad now, will try with desktop tomorrowish. Thanks. Nice to see my little mod is still on-line too. I wonder if anybody plays it.
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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Wog refugee
posted February 12, 2021 05:27 AM

Yes, Hota guys asked for permission to include it within the new coming towns. They were dumbfound about its complexity and possible ramifications.



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RerryR
RerryR


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posted February 12, 2021 07:33 AM
Edited by RerryR at 08:33, 12 Feb 2021.

artu, which was your mod if I may ask ?

I would suggest making two installations. One with ERA 2 and your old mods and a new one with ERA 3 and the assembly:
(just updated today, perfect for the upcoming weekend ;-) )
http://wforum.heroes35.net/showthread.php?tid=5817&page=1 or here:
http://heroes3wog.net/era-gaming-build-panda-update-v1-36-041-wake-of-gods/#comment-4801
Then swap mods to see what works and whatnot. If a mod is not working you can post it here and we can try to fix it, often it is just a minor change.

Edit: Wog Options are not gone

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artu
artu


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My BS sensor is tingling again
posted February 12, 2021 05:36 PM
Edited by artu at 19:29, 12 Feb 2021.

Heroes Renovated was my mod. I didnt like heroes with useless skills and specialties or duplicate specialties, so I changed them, giving them fitting portraits too. It also needs Wogís Warfare Skill to be activated for them to fit, the one that merges Artillery, First Aid and Ballistics. I always thought that was one of the best Wog Options, turning 3 skills no one prefers into a very ideal one. Each machine having their own skill is way too much when you have 8 slots, that skill should have been the vanilla version.

I also made minor mods such as Undead Ghosts and a few I dont remember now. That mode turned ghosts into undead creatures for instance, that was all it does.
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artu
artu


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My BS sensor is tingling again
posted February 13, 2021 05:20 AM
Edited by artu at 10:37, 13 Feb 2021.

Ok, downloaded latest version, so much has changed. Some things I noticed:

1- I disabled all mods except Wog at first (downloaded the panda version above), and it started to crash on lunch, had to deleteand reinstall.Didnt check dozens of mods one by one.

2- On Map Editor, when I click on Werewolves or Hell Steeds, gives error code, even when I hover over them I got error message. I still have 2.46 installed too, and when I hover their names display correctly on old version.

3- We used to use Wog Revised mod, which fixed some stuff but I guess the enhanced Wog in v3 is the revised version already and no need for Revised Mod on top of it?

4- In Plug-Ins, the option to use Plague Month as the original game intended is missing. I used to be able to turn this on, I still have the plug-in file but I cant locate folder to place it in. Unlike mods, plug-ins cant be located as files.

5- Sal's mod pack has some stuff missing like the small but crucial No Lich Death Ripple mod. If you play with creature XP, liches start to interrupt your Blinds with auto-casting Death Ripple. I have the mod and I can upload it to you guys. Couldn't check all that's missing yet. Also, some are now on the Wog menu such as The Grand Manoeuvre for Elves. So, maybe not all of them are required as a separate mod anymore.

Will keep reporting if I discover more.

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RerryR
RerryR


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Researching Magic
posted February 13, 2021 08:11 AM
Edited by RerryR at 08:14, 13 Feb 2021.

artu said:
Heroes Renovated was my mod. I didnt like heroes with useless skills and specialties or duplicate specialties, so I changed them, giving them fitting portraits too. It also needs Wogís Warfare Skill to be activated for them to fit, the one that merges Artillery, First Aid and Ballistics. I always thought that was one of the best Wog Options, turning 3 skills no one prefers into a very ideal one. Each machine having their own skill is way too much when you have 8 slots, that skill should have been the vanilla version.

I also made minor mods such as Undead Ghosts and a few I dont remember now. That mode turned ghosts into undead creatures for instance, that was all it does.


ah right Heroes Renovated, played with that one a lot

So regarding your installation. Are you sure you installed it correctly?
You must install either the light version over an existing H3 GoG installation, or you use the full version. The full version must be installed in an empty folder! In no case, you can install over your old ERA version.

I have no problems hovering over creatures in the map editor.

Wog Revised has been absorbed with all fixes as far as I know.

Plugins must be placed in the Mod/Your Mod/EraPlugins folder
for example, you can just put in the core WoG plugins folder.

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artu
artu


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Undefeatable Hero
My BS sensor is tingling again
posted February 13, 2021 10:45 AM

Yes, I got a clean zip of Heroes 3 Complete and I unzip it for each install. Turns out the crash was because I disabled Wog (the core) mod, there are several mods named Wog now, when you disable the one called the core, game doesnt open. Thatís natural I guess but Iím pretty sure map editor bug isnt because I installed incorrectly. It also gives bug when you click some wog artifacts. Iíll tweak a little more once Iím on desktop.
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