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Thread: Any way to set permanent vision?
vulcancolak
vulcancolak


Famous Hero
posted February 28, 2021 01:05 PM

Any way to set permanent vision?

Hello everyone. Is there a way to give permanent vision for specific areas via triggers? I am looking for this for a long time and sadly still i haven't found any solution for that.

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Karmakeld
Karmakeld


Responsible
Famous Hero
posted February 28, 2021 01:57 PM

Is it permanent vision for the player, that is without the fog of war shrouding the vision?

If thats the case, you can either place a neutral army or hero in the specific area, and trigger a change of owner (use army properties) at any time you desire. Most likely you should block in this army so it cant be attacked or used. This will grant you the visibility that army posseses. If using a hero you can extend the visible area using artifacts and/or the Scouting skill.
The downside is, this will take up 1 army slot. Usually you can only have up to 8 armies on the map at the same time.

You can place a flagable object, like a mine or dwelling in the specific area and trigger a similar change of owner at any given time (timed event, placed event, triggered event).
Again you should block this if you want to keep the visibility, and prevent others from capturing the mine/dwelling.
The downside here, is that mines will generate an extra income (you can counter this via scripts if you want to). As for dwellings, blocking access to the dwelling, will prevent the use of caravans.

3rd option is to use eg. a garrison and make the guards stationary and blocked in or mod an object. I recall the fort can be triggered like a garrison, but whereas you can add the option to make objects flagable by modding and thus provide vision area, we can't yet add scripts to make things triggerable.

Hope this was helpful
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radmutant69
radmutant69


Promising
Known Hero
posted February 28, 2021 03:12 PM

Thinking a little bit further about Karmakeld's proposals, you could even use a customized object, for example something like this inaccessible and nameless Evil Eye dwelling which has no visible flag, but it can be flagged by triggered events. This way you probably can do what you wanted.

The only problem is the relatively small area that you can see around it.

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vulcancolak
vulcancolak


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posted March 03, 2021 06:20 PM

You two always nice to me. Thank you for your help.

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Karmakeld
Karmakeld


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Famous Hero
posted March 03, 2021 06:27 PM

vulcancolak said:
You two always nice to me. Thank you for your help.


Hey thats what the communties are for
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fred79
fred79


Undefeatable Hero
My BS sensor is tingling again
posted March 03, 2021 11:40 PM

i use eyes of the magi, myself. i usually place them at choke points so i know when the enemy is closer, or somewhere they will get stronger, or where they could die and lose armies.

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NimoStar
NimoStar


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Supreme Hero
Modding the Unmoddable
posted April 01, 2021 10:18 AM

You can place Outposts. This is an unused feature but it works.
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