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Azagal
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posted May 05, 2021 08:27 PM
Edited by Azagal at 20:38, 05 May 2021.

Why do you guys come here?

Hello hello my friends, it's been a while. I hope you're all well and doing as good for yourselves as one can during these times.
During lockdown I eventually got bored and decided to drop by for a visit to check out how this place was doing (must have been in like november), cause I have many fond memories of this place. Hoooo Boy was I not ready for what I found lol.

I get that nostalgia is a thing but seriously my friends what the actual ****. There are like 4 threads on this entire board that aren't the usual suspects throwing the same insults at each other ad nauseam. It's the pokemon thread, the manga thread and what are you listening too/eating.
I understand that Heroes V having had an actual playerbase contributed a lot to this place being lively but many that found this place through the Temple of Ashan stayed and became permanent members. There used to be a real community here because this place was awesome to hang around on. The people were in****ingcredible.
We had enough people that couldn't stand each other or thought certain members were pretentious, annoying, idiotic, whatever but people either ignored each other or just treated each other with basic respect (mostly, nothing wrong with losing your temper once in a while, it happens to the best of us).
God damn this place used to be alive and people where having fun with each other (mostly atleast!). And it's not like the OSM didn't have difficult topics back then aswell. Christ I remember TheDeath and mvass going at it for* ***ing pages it was nuts (I might have had a few showings there aswell albeit in a very much less "eloquent" manner lol). Even Jolly and Elodin who constantly butted heads never got close to how you guys treat each other these days.

So my question is, why do any of you still come here? There is no "community" to this place in any ****ing sense. The only thing unifying people here seems to be hatred of Corribus or explaining to people how their views are fascists/wrong. I have a hard time understanding how this endless cycle is fun for anyone that participates in it. Isn't it just exhausting? Noone has ever said "My bad, I was wrong" in like the last months (except of course for Corribus cause he made a mistake and then apologized) and I very much doubt at any point before when the usual suspects go at it for the umpteenth time. Very few people here still come to debate something honestly, atleast the way I see it. It's just warping into an eccho chamber where you can keep pointing at the people who you consider "crazy" and then pat yourself on the back for "defending" whatever you consider the truth. Is that the fullfilment you guys need? I'm sure you can get that somewhere else too without having to constantly fight or putting others down. It'd be a lot more ****ing healthy too to get any amount of fullfilment in a more productive manner.
That's honestly the saddest part, the undisguised vitriol with which some of you try to hurt each other. I sincerely believe you're all ****ing better than that for crying out loud.  I understand you've in some cases been at odds with one another for years but the argument you're having with the same person for the 1057th time isn't suddenly going to change because you call them whatever version of idiot/subhuman garbage is fashionable at the time.

And especially you two Omega and Corribus (same goes for you Galad but I don't know you, I'm sure you're great but maybe your a masochist so a mod job on this forum might be just your thing for all I know).
Your work seems like an incredibly thankless task which few people appreciate and many more actively give you grief for. Why would you two put up with that? You have the patience of saints I swear.

Well atleast that is how I see things after dropping by once or twice a day since the end of last year. Do you feel I missed something? Is there still any fun/sense of community happening outside the 4 threads I mentioned (two of which are literally just people posting observations lol).

Anyways I hope you guys are all doing fine and stay healthy. May you find happiness somewhere cause you sure as **** won't find any here.

PS: Elvin, Geny and Joonas cool to still see you guys around (well not sure about Joonas he posted a while ago lol). I hope you're doing great and that you're happy. You're awesome.
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Geny
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What if Elvin was female?
posted May 05, 2021 08:32 PM

Azzie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok, now to see you posted.
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Elvin
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posted May 05, 2021 08:38 PM

Did Azzie just drop by? Must have been my imagination. What's next, will I start hallucinating Ad too?
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Minion
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posted May 05, 2021 08:40 PM

Dude...

I īmember! <3
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Azagal
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posted May 05, 2021 08:41 PM

I don't intend to stay for obvious reasons, I'm just genuinely curious about why people still come here and thought I'd ask. I already asked Corribus privately but I was curious about the rest of you all too.
No idea how the other half of Azadrius is doing but I'm sure he's taking names and kicking ass. Do you guys btw still have that game? I think I left that file on my old PC.
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Geny
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What if Elvin was female?
posted May 05, 2021 08:41 PM

Azagal said:
PS: Elvin, Geny and Joonas cool to still see you guys around (well not sure about Joonas he posted a while ago lol). I hope you're doing great and that you're happy. You're awesome.

No, no, no, you're awesome. Elvin is popular. Joonas is Finnish. And I'm... I'm... damn, it's been so long I forgot what I was.

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Galaad
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posted May 05, 2021 08:43 PM

Woot.

Heard about you from Elvin, but you were already gone. Nice to finally meet you!
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Geny
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What if Elvin was female?
posted May 05, 2021 08:44 PM
Edited by Geny at 20:44, 05 May 2021.

As for why I'm still here... I'm a stubborn snow. Once upon a time I decided that I'll stay here until Val turns off the lights and I'm sticking to it.

The Glade is still a safe haven. I quickly skim the rest of the off-topic boards to find the occasional relief thread. And every once in a while some long forgotten quitter will come by to say 'Hi' and brighten my day.
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Minion
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posted May 05, 2021 08:46 PM

You probably don't remember me, but I never came here for community or anything like that. I enjoyed learning about "the other side" of how people thought outside of my friendship bubble. It has been a decade almost since that so I guess this is just a place to spend a few hours now and then... Stubbornly refusing to let go of something long lost...
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Now, this is a paradox...
posted May 05, 2021 08:50 PM

Good to see the old guard dropping by.  There is no concrete answer to your question, it's probably a force of habit for most of us by now.  Some of us still cling to the idea that the atmosphere will clear up at some point.  Who knows what way the wind will blow tomorrow~~
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Azagal
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posted May 05, 2021 08:51 PM
Edited by Azagal at 20:52, 05 May 2021.

@Galaad
I am very flattered Galaad, so much so in fact that I butchered the spelling of your name in the opening post lol. My bad. I'm sure he was exaggerating a lot, distance supposedly makes the heart grow fonder.

@Geny
That's the theme though, the only places that aren't a ****show are the places where people care about something together. The thing is that is literally just the manga thread and any RPG on the glade.
I understand since there are very few people left here now, there can't be that many different places for people to hang out and discussing/celebrate/comisserate over certain things but still man. That can't be the only excuse.

Oi who are you calling a quitter hahaha. Fair enough though I can understand why you still hang around. Is Val still alive btw? I remember almost never seeing him in the hayday of this place but I imagine he's even more scarce these days?
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Geny
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What if Elvin was female?
posted May 05, 2021 08:56 PM

Of course he is. He comes out every Blood Moon, waves and disappears again.
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Elvin
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posted May 05, 2021 09:05 PM
Edited by Elvin at 21:05, 05 May 2021.

Geny said:
Elvin is popular.


That's not right, I feel like a nobody. Just a ghost of the past passing by. Heck even Galaad is becoming a ghost of the past!
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Azagal
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posted May 05, 2021 09:10 PM
Edited by Azagal at 21:11, 05 May 2021.

@Minion I do remember you, I think we talked Hearthstone at some point and seeing you in the OSM occasionally. And I get what you're saying, but why hold on still? Geny is absolutely a stubborn sow haha so I understand him hanging out till the bitter end but he is nuturing some parts of this place still or at the very least mostly avoiding the places where the same discussion fight keeps happening constantly. You're also trying to be positive as far as I can tell most of the time (like in the Hearthstone thread for example) but you still engage with the same people that spout the same stuff that you feel like you have to correct. And they very clearly will never change. Not because they can't they just don't want to.
Believe me I understand what it's like to feel like you have to argue a point because its "right" or "moral" but that's only really worthwhile if you have any chance of reaching someone. And there are almost no people left here to convince of anything. Especially not when it comes to the fight that has been going on since forever.

@NoobX
I'm more "old" than "guard" these days hahaha but thank you. I really understand the force of habit part, that's what I thought too but don't you feel that at some point it would honestly just be nicer to leave? I don't see how things would change around here without some serious effort on everybodies part. And that aint gonna happen any time soon lol. Nobody new is going to come here either unless they need the same eccho chamber and people like that are by nature not going to try to find common ground. It has to be "us" versus "them".
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Minion
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posted May 05, 2021 09:19 PM

Awesome, I now wish Joonas was here too ^^ Man where is he!

It was several years that I didn't post anything, didn't even come around. But this corona you know, I wished there were some people to exchange ideas with...Well it happens. I totally know what you mean though, it didn't used to be so hostile to come here, even when there were disagreements... It is a bit sad.

But as soon as Corona is gone I will spend more time with real people and less time on the interwebs, happy? xD

So great to see you Az btw
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posted May 05, 2021 09:28 PM

NoobX said:
Good to see the old guard dropping by.  There is no concrete answer to your question, it's probably a force of habit for most of us by now.  Some of us still cling to the idea that the atmosphere will clear up at some point.  Who knows what way the wind will blow tomorrow~~


+1.

i stopped being a leftist, so for my part, hc is more hostile towards me than it used to be(which isn't really that big of a deviance from the norm, tbh). i have reacted accordingly as always, and i still strive for unity, but i don't think that's ever going to happen. politics have become far too polarized, with both sides becoming militant about their views; to the point of real hatred forming on both sides. hell, i'm mostly in the middle, and i still feel the hatred; both externally and internally. this is all by design, of course; but most here seem oblivious to that fact.

i think it would be a major thing, just for people to be able to agree on what reality is. that used to be a thing that mostly only divided the religious from the nonreligious; but these days, that covers reality itself. and that is a MAJOR dividing point.

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NoobX
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Now, this is a paradox...
posted May 05, 2021 09:29 PM

The place might change if people grow up, that's a possibility.  We've had many members, who you might not have heard about, that have come here in their pre-teen years and made a ****show, got ridiculed and went their own way only to go through the magical period of "puberty" and turn out more pleasant than they ever were, such as Herry, Husham and even yours truly.  A bit of self reflection that comes with time does prove to be the key to self-improvement.
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posted May 05, 2021 09:35 PM
Edited by blob2 at 21:38, 05 May 2021.

Hey old guy, You don't know me nor do I know you.

Regarding the state of HC. I joined somewhere after Heroes 6 was released and I remember the board being pretty fun and lively back there (ofc until Ubisoft ruined the franchise). I concur it's not how it's used to be now. I tried to start some discussions from time to time, mostly offtop, but seems people prefer to talk politics, those are mostly the only threads that garner attention. Nowadays it's all about views clashing, but that is the current state of humanity, I see this everyday.

Visiting here is still fun though, met people who I can still have a blast with.

I think the biggest reason why the community changed though is the fact that Heroes is a dead franchise so we don't have much to talk about.

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Azagal
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posted May 05, 2021 09:37 PM

@Minion
If I had to take a wild guess he's probably solving some impossible mathematical equasion which when solved will leap frog us into the dark age of technology. Or he's somewhere living as a hermit in the finish wilderness being friends with all the wildlife. The guy is so cool. And thank you for the welcome, it's very nice to chat with you guys and catch up a little.

@Fred
I agree that things are currently very tense. But I didn't understand why you still come here from what you said. Force of habit, sure but what else? Don't you think there'd be more to it in your case specifically since in your own words HC is more hostile towards you?
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Azagal
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posted May 05, 2021 09:45 PM

Aight Blob, glad to hear some people are getting something productive out of this place.
Sincerely
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