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JollyJoker
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posted June 23, 2021 10:16 PM

We were talking about a MAD satanist - which I was inquiring about.

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posted June 23, 2021 10:34 PM

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Yes, and I pointed out that both words have multiple definitions.

First, you need to specify which definitions you're using, then you have to prove your claim.

Only then, you can answer the question.


Not that I necessarily disagree with you...

...you could say I'm playing devil's advocate.

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posted June 23, 2021 10:57 PM

Not true.
Satanist is clearly defined.
Mad - not so. That's why I asked. Got no answer, actually.

Repeat, satanists are by no definition mad. Otherwise, no satanist could ever go to jail.

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posted June 23, 2021 11:10 PM

Heh...

I already gave you several valid definitions of "satanist". You can say you're using one of them, but you cannot claim it only has that one.
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posted June 23, 2021 11:35 PM

JollyJoker said:
Lith-Maethor said:
...and some words have multiple definitions. You're not contractually obligated to be a moppet in every post, you know.
That may be true, but that's a completely different thing. In this case:
Satanist definition


jesus snowing christ. there are different types of satanists, guy. read a snowing book, and get your "knowledge" from more than one (obviously retarded, i might add) source.

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posted June 23, 2021 11:43 PM

No its not the same like murdered assain. Because murder is target of assain. But madness is not what satanist want but he is mad in fact. Target of satanism is evil. So bad satanist is a nonsence. Theres the same like murdered assasin. Madnes is additional 'gift' of satanism. Crazy mad is something as you think.
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Satan as 'freedom symbol' is nonsence because freedom is attribute of good. So atribute of evil is opposite - captivity. Ofcourse not physical real prison but inner mind prison. Eg. ,bad' car  is non movable. So you have ,freedom' sitting inside static car?! :0))) No you must have 'good' car to drive. Freedom needs good. So evil is always a captivity. Cult of evil is always maximum madness. Like sitting in static car.

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posted June 23, 2021 11:52 PM

JollyJoker said:
artu said:
But thatís exactly why I mention itís to emphasize. He thinks all satanists are mad and considers it worth emphasizing.

- What kind of a man kills innocent babies?
- So, you mean there are babies who arenít innocent?
- ???

I dont care about his point of view, itís your typical my religion is the true one and others are mad stuff, but qualifying a noun does not strictly imply that the noun without the quality exist.
That's where you are wrong. It does. It's just "bad" (political, biassed, bad-intention) use of language to do otherwise.
And since you're mentioning it:
Don't you get something of a fit if they talk of "innocent babies"? I do, for that reason. It's extremely cheap rhetoric. Ans it's just nonsense to say so. Actually in this example it's for more than that reason - it's the assumption that it's somehow worse to kill an "innocent beby" than, say a (not so innocent) child, youth, man, woman... It's bull.

It's language that sucks.

Not really. This time, I wont use an abstract concept like innocence, so I wonder how youíll turn this one around.

- Before it was filled with blue oceans, the earth was a dry rock.
- So, you mean there are oceans that arenít blue?

Who on earth would conclude that from such a sentence? Címon JJ, itís a legit use and you know it.
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posted June 24, 2021 08:33 AM

Lith-Maethor said:
I already gave you several valid definitions of "satanist". You can say you're using one of them, but you cannot claim it only has that one.
*I* gave you the valid definition. You didn't give *definitions' You gave possible interpretations.

fred79 said:
JollyJoker said:

jesus snowing christ. there are different types of satanists, guy. read a snowing book, and get your "knowledge" from more than one (obviously retarded, i might add) source.
Yes. That's why I asked about the sane ones. See that dude? A satanist is a satanist. Whatever else they might be is given by the adjective (which might be more than one). So what's your point?

artu said:

- Before it was filled with blue oceans, the earth was a dry rock.
- So, you mean there are oceans that arenít blue?

Who on earth would conclude that from such a sentence? Címon JJ, itís a legit use and you know it.
It's a hyperbole as well - and you KNOW it. It's usually used to point to how those blue oceans have been polluted and are not blue anymore.

Anyway - the question WAS whether all satanists ARE mad and whether there are sane ones. Please keep that in mind. If he says they are all mad - then it's a hyperbole, rhetorics and polemic.

Apart from being nonsense, of course.

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posted June 24, 2021 09:39 AM
Edited by artu at 12:28, 24 Jun 2021.

I wouldnít call it a hyperbole since hyperboles are exaggerations not meant to be taken literally, yet oceans are literally blue. Itís a rhetorical preference to emphasize the contrast between blueness of the oceans and the previous rock condition. But itís not rhetorical in the sense that itís a figure of speech not meant to be taken literally, nor is there a rule indicating if a noun gets a qualification, there should also be examples without that qualification. That totally depends on why you choose to underline the qualification.
- The blue stones are the rare ones, they are worth a fortune in the market. (The kind of context you are talking about.)
- Blue oceans always fill my heart with joy. (Another kind of motive, emphasizing beauty by color.)
- Blue oceans, green forests, misty mountains, they will all be gone once the Sun is in Red Giant state. (Yet another kind of motive, emphasizing variety.)

So, to answer your question, in his case, he obviously thinks all satanists are mad and his reason to underline the madness is to point out to others how mad they are or even simply that they are mad. After all, he can think all satanists are mad, yet, also think we are not aware of this situation and wish to warn us, or he can simply be emphasizing their madness to degrade and insult them.
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posted June 24, 2021 09:55 AM

What I promised to add on transgender and transsexual slangs. Ok I can't add on lexes due to no enough info without dictionary. I'm sorry.

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posted June 24, 2021 10:07 AM

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Yes. That's why I asked about the sane ones. See that dude? A satanist is a satanist. Whatever else they might be is given by the adjective (which might be more than one). So what's your point?


sorry, i temporarily forgot you're the type that completely lacks reading comprehension. my point was, there are different types of satanists, just as there are different types of christians. also, "sane ones" isn't one of those titles. i lose brain cells reading posts from people like you.

but really, this is a moronic conversation regardless, and it's being discussed mostly by people who lack even a rudimentary grasp of reality from the getgo. so i'll leave you people to do what you do best: incessantly argue while not making sense doing it; and with utterly no intent to see eye-to-eye on anything whatsoever as an end result.

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posted June 24, 2021 10:28 AM

Last I checked, nine out of ten people here were seeing eye to eye that you were the one ď lacking even a rudimentary grasp of reality,Ē so I guess, we can say that the evidentness of your delusional state unites even the most diversified among us.
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posted June 24, 2021 12:00 PM

Let's get this straight.

The definition of "Satanist" is

"A person that worships S(s)atan."

That's it. Whether this leads to conclusions about what a satanist is in addition as a consequence is open to debate and not included in the actual word.

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posted June 24, 2021 12:06 PM
Edited by fred79 at 12:15, 24 Jun 2021.

@ artu: the majority, throughout history, hasn't had any common sense. so, a majority in no way means they're correct or any group to be proud of, whatsoever. the majority, by and large, invent nothing, create nothing(besides more of their own kind, for the most part), improve nothing, ARE nothing, and their slave flock mentality means less than nothing, to anyone WITH common sense. the majority used to believe the earth was flat, women with markings were witches, black cats were evil, etc, etc(and their idiotic group-beliefs always change, but remain just as stupid as the last bs they believed that will always be found to be idiotic once that mass-mentality goes out of style or is undeniably proven to be incorrect by people with sense; who are smart enough to challenge mass-beliefs that somehow... tend to turn out to be wrong).

to put it shortly, the majority are a plague of morons eating up the world; that's not something to wear as a badge of honor. so by all means, lump yourself in with the majority. question nothing. accept what you're told by the people who treat you like human cattle. great plan; it's certainly worked for the lower classes throughout all of recorded human history, no?



@ jj: just stop. you're embarassing yourself. this is coming from someone who has researched the subject extensively.

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posted June 24, 2021 12:27 PM

Yep, freddy, history will write you down as a visionary beyond his time. Thatís what this is.
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posted June 24, 2021 12:28 PM

eh...

fred79 said:
@ jj: just stop. you're embarrassing yourself. this is coming from someone who has researched the subject extensively.


Extensive research is not required, even a cursory glance can show that there are at least two types of satanists (atheistic and theistic), branching out into a lot more nuance.

And that's not even including the original definition (back from 1550 or something), which was "a Christian that is a true believer but misguided into serving the will of Satan" and was directed at people the user considered heretics.

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posted June 24, 2021 12:50 PM

Lith-Maethor said:
fred79 said:
@ jj: just stop. you're embarrassing yourself. this is coming from someone who has researched the subject extensively.


Extensive research is not required, even a cursory glance can show that there are at least two types of satanists (atheistic and theistic), branching out into a lot more nuance.

And that's not even including the original definition (back from 1550 or something), which was "a Christian that is a true believer but misguided into serving the will of Satan" and was directed at people the user considered heretics.

That is of no matter. Repeat: A "satanist" is a person worshipping satan.
Same with "Christian": A Christian is a person worshipping Jesus Christ as the human-born son of god - irrespective of the fact that there are a million different denominations of Christians.

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posted June 24, 2021 12:55 PM

Lith-Maethor said:
fred79 said:
@ jj: just stop. you're embarrassing yourself. this is coming from someone who has researched the subject extensively.


Extensive research is not required, even a cursory glance can show that there are at least two types of satanists (atheistic and theistic), branching out into a lot more nuance.

And that's not even including the original definition (back from 1550 or something), which was "a Christian that is a true believer but misguided into serving the will of Satan" and was directed at people the user considered heretics.



i'm aware, but he should learn for himself. if he can't even figure out how to do a google search like a child would, he's just going to argue with anyone trying to teach him the basics.

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posted June 24, 2021 12:57 PM

artu said:
Yep, freddy, history will write you down as a visionary beyond his time. Thatís what this is.


i like how you pulled "visionary" out of "someone with common sense". you just insulted yourself horribly; and i want you to understand that. acutely.

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posted June 24, 2021 01:11 PM

Actually, it is you whoís using the word wrong, because ďcommon sense,Ē as the very name suggests, is defined and shaped mostly by majority. For instance, in your example, without the math and the careful observations, it made ďsenseĒ that the the earth was flat, thatís why most people thought so, thatís why even today, you still have flat earthers. It was visionaries who proved it wasnt. So, if youíre claiming you are right despite the majority of people thinking youíre delusional, you are not claiming you have common sense, you are claiming that you are a visionary. And conspiracy theories are neither common sense nor vision anyway.
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