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Heroes Community > Volcanic Wastelands > Thread: The Transgender Matrix: It’s Time to Choose the Red Pill
Thread: The Transgender Matrix: It’s Time to Choose the Red Pill This thread is 26 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 ... 10 20 ... 22 23 24 25 26 · «PREV / NEXT»
artu
artu


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My BS sensor is tingling again
posted May 18, 2021 07:02 PM
Edited by artu at 19:03, 18 May 2021.

Yes, that’s not uncommon either but when you’re born with such a condition, there is no easy way out, there is no “happily ever after” relief formula that works 100 percent efficiently for everyone. Some dont regret it, usually the ones who can pull themselves above the social stigma, so it must be easier when they are famous or rich, and people are more likely to think you are entitled to be “eccentric” more, like in so many other things. But, it should be their choice once they pass the psych evaluation.
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fred79
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posted May 18, 2021 07:10 PM

do you even dress yourself?

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Kipshasz
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posted May 18, 2021 07:22 PM

fred79 said:
do you even dress yourself?

he has a serbian slave boy to do it for him, as is ottoman tradition.
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artu
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My BS sensor is tingling again
posted May 18, 2021 07:35 PM

fred79 said:
do you even dress yourself?

Yes fred, I’m not still living with my mother after all.
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fred79
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posted May 18, 2021 07:39 PM

artu said:
fred79 said:
do you even dress yourself?

Yes fred, I’m not still living with my mother after all.


not bad, not bad. i'll give it a 4/10.

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Kipshasz
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posted May 18, 2021 07:54 PM

fred79 said:
artu said:
fred79 said:
do you even dress yourself?

Yes fred, I’m not still living with my mother after all.


not bad, not bad. i'll give it a 4/10.


I'd rate that 9/11.
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Ghost
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posted May 18, 2021 07:56 PM

Depends on brand. American fred doesn't use Levi's or what? 4/10 but it means like

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posted May 18, 2021 10:44 PM
Edited by NimoStar at 22:45, 18 May 2021.

Quote:
The system as in “humans not knowing they are in the Matrix” wasnt going to continue.


The movier doesn't state that. It only says they were given " a choice"., This choice is likely like red or blue pill, with blue meaning you forget everything.

So yes, the system continues prtetty much as in movie one, except instead of cool hackers giving you the choice, the machines give you the illusion of choice.

Reminds me pretty much like our society works right now, hah.

After all, getting to "choose your gender and sexual orientation" is such an illusion too.
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artu
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My BS sensor is tingling again
posted May 19, 2021 12:39 AM

“Choosing your sexual orientation” doesnt mean that, it means they can choose to have an operation because of genetic and hormonal pressures. It’s not exactly like picking up a carpet in the store. That is not orientation anyway, orientation is about who you like, like gay people feeling attracted to their own sex or bisexuals feeling attracted to both sexes. It’s not about having a sex change operation.

And no, in the end “Matrix as we know it” ends. Because it meant “no choice” to begin with. “Cool hackers” only took out a few, not much.
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Skeggy
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posted May 19, 2021 09:59 AM

Well, it would certainly be interesting to see how well or poorly related is actual sex assigned by anatomy, hormones, cells, or chromosomes, with an actual wish for sex change. It could very well be a figment of imagination. This is interesting because it raises few interesting questions.

1. Is it correct to allow the patient to undergo a sex change operation if anatomy, hormones, cells, and chromosomes tells a different story?
2. Does society has right to allow patient to perform the surgery in the case where biological evidence claims otherwise?
3. Is it ok even if biological evidence claims that surgery is justified, to suggest the patient to treat the condition as something that should be ignored?
Because the article is very interesting but it doesn't provide any psychometric data about the cases that were undeniably fit for surgery but not only didn't perform it, but instead they lived a traditionally suggested lifestyle.
So yes, psychometry data is missing, therefore, the article is open for speculation.

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posted May 19, 2021 10:40 AM

Many people that undergo such changes later wish to "detransition" and aren't able to. Plus surgery doesn't actually create opposite sex organs, only mutilated flesh with a myriad of health problems.
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fred79
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posted May 19, 2021 11:08 AM

if nobody here who's promoting mental illness has actually SEEN an operation take place(pre-op, op, and post-op), i suggest you go do so and see if you still have the stomach for your viewpoint. then, take a gander at actual suicide photo's of people who realized their mistake far too late. you guys need to actually SEE the consequences of what you're promoting. i'd post the snow here myself to give you a much-needed dose of reality, but it isn't allowed.

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Minion
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posted May 19, 2021 11:12 AM
Edited by Minion at 11:14, 19 May 2021.

Every surgery looks gross and horrible, that is a weak argument. Do you oppose all surgery?

Elliot Page said that the transition saved his life. Why do you know better what is best for him?

Edit: To previous poster...sexual orientation is a choice? come oon...

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Salamandre
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posted May 19, 2021 11:25 AM

Thats only a feeling. What is the medical explanation about not transitioning threatening his health and life?
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Minion
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posted May 19, 2021 11:27 AM
Edited by Minion at 11:45, 19 May 2021.

Pretty sure someone's own opinion matters a tiny bit when it comes to their happiness.

Now specify why you want to dictate how people live the short amount of life they have on this planet?

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Salamandre
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posted May 19, 2021 11:46 AM

Where did I say that ?

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Ghost
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Therefore I am
posted May 19, 2021 11:53 AM

Minion said:
sexual orientation is a choice?


Noes! Paedophile isn't choice, for example. Read in wikipedia.

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Minion
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posted May 19, 2021 11:57 AM
Edited by Minion at 12:25, 19 May 2021.

What is it that you are saying then, mmhh, I see your wording is different now than when I replied?

Elaborate on your opinion a bit more if you could.

To summarize to conversation so far fred says: "you guys need to actually SEE the consequences of what you're promoting". To which I asked how does he know what is best for them? I cited one example of the opposite for context.

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posted May 19, 2021 12:35 PM

If they were so happy then this or 50% suicide attempts woudn't exist

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/tyler-o-neil/2021/03/12/detransitioners-open-up-transgender-identity-was-a-way-to-cope-with-my-trauma-and-body-hatred-n1432065
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artu
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My BS sensor is tingling again
posted May 19, 2021 12:55 PM
Edited by artu at 12:55, 19 May 2021.

That kind of statistic only means something if you have a way of knowing and comparing how many of them would have commit suicide without the surgery (because a lot also do commit suicide without the surgery) and how many wouldnt have do it without the social pressures.

It is, in the end, a hard position both biologically and socially. But:

1- It is not a mental delusion, it has biological causes.
2- Gender dysphoria can go away after surgery, there are cases it works. There is no guarantee, no, but life isnt fair. If you’re born blind, there is also no guarantee whatever you do, you wont feel less depressed about it. Doesnt mean you are a lunatic.
3- Mocking them and calling them crazy sure doesnt help with the suicide rate. The best thing to do is just let these people decide for themselves. That’s not “promoting” anything. That’s just acknowledging their self-awareness.

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