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blizzardboy
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posted May 19, 2021 01:49 AM |
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On a cosmological scale, humans have a massive amount of time to do what they need to do to survive. There could be multiple self-induced apocalyptic events that wipe out most of humanity (nukes or biological weapons or severe climate change or all of the above) and there would still an insanely large amount of time to rebuild and become more advanced, and then if they eventually manage to do it and create a stable system that is sustainable and they have renewable energy, like with a stable fusion core, they could even grow an entire ecosystem without the need for the sun.
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posted May 19, 2021 02:22 AM |
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You can have an eco-system without the sun, it is a much more realistic goal than traveling through wormholes or similar kind of action sci-fi device. But if you’re stuck to Earth, you’ll still be engulfed by the sun in the end.
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posted May 19, 2021 08:42 AM |
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@ artu and blizzard
Guys, does it really make sense to speculate what may happen in a couple billion years from now?
What I say is, there is either a way to cross interstelar distances in reasonable time or not. If there is, and we survive long enough, we might find it and act accordingly. If not, we'll probably not survive the apparent senselessness of having so vast a universe (or infinite vast universes) and no way to meaningfully explore it and journey through it, meet others like us and so on.
It would be like being outcasts on a miniscule island in some rough see, where you could SEE an infinite number of islands like our own - with no way to ever reach them (and by proxy, no way of anyone else ever to reach us).
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posted May 19, 2021 09:47 AM |
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JollyJoker said:
Guys, does it really make sense to speculate what may happen in a couple billion years from now?
on a gaming forum? why not?
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posted May 19, 2021 10:04 AM |
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It is just more meaningful to imagine humanity in 1000 years from now, that is way far in the future already. A billion years to the future is not even science fiction anymore, it is fantasy lol.
Unless you wanna think about the existential fear of living in a Universe in which all the other stars have burned out except your own... Just counting the days before everything will be consumed by the darkness.
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posted May 19, 2021 10:11 AM |
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none of us will be alive 100 years from now, so it doesn't really matter what we talk or fantasize about; if you want to be real. therefore, everything should be wide open to say.
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Minion
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posted May 19, 2021 10:18 AM |
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Sure, fantasize ahead 
I personally can't stop imagining to some lovecraftian endless void at the end of Universe that will devour everything, and I just wish I will not be alive to feel it.
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posted May 19, 2021 11:02 AM |
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blizzardboy
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posted May 19, 2021 01:19 PM |
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JollyJoker said:
@ artu and blizzard
Guys, does it really make sense to speculate what may happen in a couple billion years from now?
What I say is, there is either a way to cross interstelar distances in reasonable time or not. If there is, and we survive long enough, we might find it and act accordingly. If not, we'll probably not survive the apparent senselessness of having so vast a universe (or infinite vast universes) and no way to meaningfully explore it and journey through it, meet others like us and so on.
It would be like being outcasts on a miniscule island in some rough see, where you could SEE an infinite number of islands like our own - with no way to ever reach them (and by proxy, no way of anyone else ever to reach us).
@Jollyjoker
That's one way of looking at it, but in fairness, a fish never even leaves its pond, much less travels the way a person can. It's not meaningful or meaningless, we simply can't do it as all, which really shouldn't be surprising considering our relative size compared to all known matter. Plus, thanks to things like math and the faculty of the imagination and modern technology, we actually can explore it to a large extent.
And for survival purposes billions of years from now, it is possible to develop the technology to continue to live without needing our Earth or the sun. There's nothing about that that is science fiction.
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JollyJoker
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posted May 19, 2021 02:11 PM |
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We actually face TWO (obvious) dangers:
1) (Self)-destruction; this may happen by way of a cosmic event in too short a time to be actually able to do something about it, like being hit by some big asteroid (the way it happened 65 mio years before or massive solar flares - or climate change or nuclear war or resource exhaustion and so on;
Or 2) we solve these matters - but degenerate due to living a peaceful reglemented life without challenges and devolve as a species (being pampered by robot slaves and so on).
Both options will see us vanish and probably make way to a new or mutated species.
Colonizing the oceans with underwater cities may be a thing or not - but eventually we will HAVE to expand our borders when we want to survive.
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