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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: Mapmaker needs help!
Thread: Mapmaker needs help!
oblivious_fool
oblivious_fool


Hired Hero
posted November 14, 2021 01:46 PM

Mapmaker needs help!

Hello everybody, I hope all community members are doing great!

Without further ado, I will present you my issue. For a long while now I have been working on a new ERA map, but I have encountered several problems lately.

1) I am practically done with the map's template and almost all things related with the map editor, yet when I try to play/test the map I get stuck in loading, the game freezes and once I minimize I get an error message informing me the game has crashed, asking me to check ERA folder for the crash log, from which I cannot figure out a thing. The crash is not related to WOG settings, I have tried to launch it without any actual WOG script activated in-game. Maybe someone can help me understand what is wrong with my map?

2) I am at best an amateur when it comes to scripting and battle design, so my second need is to find someone who can translate my ideas into ERM scripts and help me design the complicated scripts I am looking for, as well as assist me in drawing the map's battles.

3) In general, I am looking for a mapmaking partner, so if anyone wants to join me, let me know.

Thanks in advance,

O.F.

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Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
posted November 14, 2021 02:08 PM

Eh, when people will understand that scripts and mapmaking go hand in hand from the start, you must have a coherent and long term vision. You can't just design "a map template", then think at "complicated scripts", and then ask someone to write them for you. It is not motivating for anyone and can't work that way.

You go for Era if you know to script, if not you go Hota. Sorry for killing your dreams...

You can also use the ERM help thread to get the basics then start from little at first and learn the hard way.
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oblivious_fool
oblivious_fool


Hired Hero
posted November 14, 2021 02:24 PM

I get your points Salamandre, but in this case, I have been working on the simple scripts at least for a long time. I have not integrated them on the map, so it is basically an XL SoD map with new objects for now, I have been writing the scripts in the ERM editor and I dont know even how to compile them and load them in the game externally, like it has been done with your maps, e.g. TEWII/III/IV. I have never used HotA, so ERA is kinda one way for me at the point the project has reached now. A far as "complicated" scripts go, I am refering mostly to things already done before, just the kind I haven't done myself before.

The issue is much more elementary anyway, I mean being unable to load the map and see how it plays out in the WOG-less sense. I cannot understand the reason the map loading crashes and that is what is bothering me the most at the moment.

Currently I am using ERM help site and scripts I found from other maps, trying to adjust them for my case.

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Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
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Wog refugee
posted November 14, 2021 02:28 PM

Does map crash when no scripts at all? Upload it and also the objects pac it needs, I will test loading process.

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oblivious_fool
oblivious_fool


Hired Hero
posted November 14, 2021 02:52 PM

Yes, it does! I am pasting the link with the map and some additional files.

https://we.tl/t-7N0G9lddmG

Thanks a lot!

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Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
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Wog refugee
posted November 14, 2021 03:16 PM

I have a suspicion that fred's mod creates many problems. In my previous Era, once I installed fred's mod, game started to crash when loading my maps too. I removed his mod, crash remains. I created new Era 3 folder, now ok. My guess is that fred's mod comes with changes to core elements, making the game unstable. Bersy also reported that his game crashed when installing fred's mod.

Hard to say, but 3 coincidences are a lot.

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oblivious_fool
oblivious_fool


Hired Hero
posted November 14, 2021 03:20 PM

I see, thanks for this. What do you suggest, remove all object defs related to Fred's pac (hell, this is gonna take a while...) ?

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Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
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Wog refugee
posted November 14, 2021 03:24 PM

No, it needs further investigation. I just related what problems I encountered.

There can be also a local problem. Try this:

Save map in different folder so you don't lose it. Then start deleting  columns from map combined with start game. Delete 10 columns for every try and see when map doesn't crash any longer. You must identify the object creating problems. This process saved me before, as I had same error in one of my maps.
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oblivious_fool
oblivious_fool


Hired Hero
posted November 14, 2021 03:40 PM

Amazing idea, I got so lucky though! I deleted the first 10 vertical columns in the underworld of my map and it loaded, without any issue with the Fred objects. At least I know where the problem is now -more or less-.

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Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
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Wog refugee
posted November 14, 2021 03:45 PM

Ok, now start with 1 column at once. Find the culprit!

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oblivious_fool
oblivious_fool


Hired Hero
posted November 14, 2021 04:23 PM

I have located the broken object through trial and error between two collumns (7-8) in the underground region, it will take a while to specify it though as the map is heavily decorated as you might have noticed. Thanks for this Salamandre. Please leave this thread hanging as I will continue hoping for some scripting help in the future as well as for other issues I might encounter!

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nelsonmurdock
nelsonmurdock

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posted November 16, 2021 11:40 AM

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