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NimoStar
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posted June 13, 2022 05:53 PM
Edited by NimoStar at 23:15, 13 Jun 2022.

"Steath Edit" option is suppossed to make your edit not appear in last messages or date, but actually does nothing.

I tried to do this so it doesn't appear as if I posted some more when I just correct a typo. Yet annoyingly it doesn't work. And it seems like I responded when I didn't.

Some fix?
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artu
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posted June 13, 2022 06:14 PM
Edited by artu at 13:49, 14 Jun 2022.

That’s new. I’m 100 percent sure, it used to work as it’s supposed to.

Edit: check


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fred79
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posted June 13, 2022 09:45 PM

as usual, artu is wrong. it's been like that since 2012, when i registered.

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Galaad
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posted June 13, 2022 10:26 PM
Edited by Galaad at 21:31, 14 Jun 2022.

Stealth edit function worked the last time I used it. It's been some while, but it was for sure way past 2012.

Stealth Edit Test
Edit 2 lol it works


Nimostar said:
Not only thw post shows as edited but it also shows as if you posted on the thread

No it doesn't.



Ok now I didn't stealth edit, see that's annoying.
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fred79
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posted June 13, 2022 11:09 PM

so why did it never work when i used it, then?

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NimoStar
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posted June 13, 2022 11:14 PM
Edited by NimoStar at 23:15, 13 Jun 2022.

Doesn0t matter since when it's not working. The only thing it matter is it's not working now. See my "stealth edit" date in main post and this one for reference. And how "last message" appears with the edit date even though I checked the box.
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posted June 14, 2022 05:13 AM

Galaad said:
Stealth edit function worked the last time I used it. It's been some while, but it was for sure way past 2012.

Stealth Edit Test
Edit 2 lol it works



and i guess you don't see the "edited by galaad" in the upper right of your post, then? do you even understand what "stealth" means? maybe valeriy has the same ignorance of the word you do.

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Minion
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posted June 14, 2022 08:52 AM

Stealth edit just means that using the function while editing doesn't bump the thread at the top of Todays Posts. So for example you can correct a typo, and it won't appear as a new post.

I just tried it out in the thread "Can you prove you're not mentally insane?" and it seems to work as intended.

So fred is wrong, as usual.
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artu
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posted June 14, 2022 01:59 PM

Yes, it still works as usual for me, too.

Nimo, maybe it’s about browser compatibility or the OS you use. When I use it on iPad’s Safari, it still works as it’s supposed to.

And yes, it was working way past 2012. About 4 or 5 years ago, blizz used to drive us nuts by never stealth editing and constantly making minor changes in his posts, so every time a post appeared on top, we used to click threads to check it out and there was nothing new. Then we used to go “use stealth man, wtf!” and he just kept on annoying us, lol.
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NimoStar
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posted June 14, 2022 03:15 PM
Edited by NimoStar at 15:15, 14 Jun 2022.

Quote:
Stealth edit just means that using the function while editing doesn't bump the thread at the top of Todays Posts.


Then it is useless because it will still make it as though you were the last person to respond in that thread wich is what I tried to prevent.

OS and browser compatibility has nothing to do with it, this is a purely server side operation.
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purerogue
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posted June 14, 2022 04:18 PM

'Stealth' means different things to different people.
One is trying to avoid being seen to have edited a post, one is trying to avoid being seen at all.
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NimoStar
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posted June 14, 2022 04:33 PM

I just wanted the more restricted definition about th post but  this 'function' is not even that

Not only thw post shows as edited but it also shows as if you posted on the thread
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artu
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My BS sensor is tingling again
posted June 14, 2022 05:46 PM
Edited by artu at 17:50, 14 Jun 2022.

NimoStar said:
Quote:
Stealth edit just means that using the function while editing doesn't bump the thread at the top of Todays Posts.


Then it is useless because it will still make it as though you were the last person to respond in that thread wich is what I tried to prevent.

No, it’s not useless. It’s just not used for what you intend to. It’s use is this, let’s say you just wanted to correct a typo or some other minor technicality in your post, normally the name of the poster of an edited post goes on top of “Last Ten Replies” section just the same as when a new entry has been added. And the thread name itself goes on top of the list. This is to inform the followers of the thread that there is new content, even if it’s an edited addition instead of a new entry. But since correcting a minor technicality isnt actual new content, you use stealth edit so that your fellow posters dont see title in “last ten replies” section and mistake your minor edit as new content.

It’s function is not to secretly edit your post. The edit is still on record. But you are not seen as the last person to reply on the list either. To track you are the last replier, one must check the date of the edit stamp on your post. The list will appear as if you didnt edit, and the list is where people trace and check out the last post, so it works.
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purerogue
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posted June 14, 2022 05:57 PM

artu said:
It’s function is not to secretly edit your post.


This assumes the 'typical' user actually wants to avoid attention, rather than not being seem to have been wrong.

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artu
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posted June 14, 2022 06:04 PM

It’s dishonest to edit content that way after people reply to you anyway. Their replies would seem meaningless. You can edit typos, make small additions, even paraphrase things better with an edit. But if you write, say, the capitol of U.S.A. is New York and after someone objects, edit it to Washington, that wouldnt fly in my book.
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purerogue
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posted June 14, 2022 06:19 PM

So the purpose of stealth edit on this site is to avoid attention, not to fix a typo as you will be spotted.
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artu
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My BS sensor is tingling again
posted June 14, 2022 06:55 PM
Edited by artu at 20:49, 14 Jun 2022.

I think I explained its function quite clearly.

Edit: No, it doesnt.

As you can see, even after my stealth edit, both in Turban Tribunal and in Last Replies, you still appear as the last poster, even though I made this edit after your post, that’s what stealth edit is, there is nothing indefensible about it, we’ve been using it like this for years and as I already mentioned, we even busted blizz’s balls for not using it properly.



This is not rocket science, you just didnt know what it was for. Insisting is futile.

Edit 3: And as long as I use stealth, you still appear as the last poster of the thread, even when I click and view within the Turban Tribunal section.


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NimoStar
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posted June 14, 2022 08:00 PM
Edited by NimoStar at 22:14, 14 Jun 2022.

You are defending the indefensible. My correction of a typo still appears as the last message when viewing the forums, the stupid "10 lasts posts" isn't the only thing that exists, and this confuses users, as they will believe there is new content with this apparent reply, when in fact there is none.

The only dishonest thing is calling this function "stealth edit", when it would be best named "useless checkbox"
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purerogue
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posted June 14, 2022 08:52 PM

I think it has a specific purpose, which it does, but the naming convention leads the layman to assume they can quickly change something, without having been thought to made a major revision.

This a communication problem.
Reminds me of long ago, when I left my passport at an inn in Rome - I told the guy, literally "I have a reservation/You have my passport"
Him: "No, no.."
Me: repeat
repeat ten times
Then finally, him: "Ah, passport!.." reaches behind the counter..
Me: why

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posted June 15, 2022 05:01 AM

watching people attempt to defend something that clearly doesn't work as intended, is ridiculous. anyone with fully functioning cognitive abilities can observe these people, in everything they do and say, who will deny the absolute obvious that all of their collective senses will tell them; and it always seems, for the benefit of authority. they absolutely believe in something that benefits authority to believe, where every single shred of evidence proves otherwise. there is no two ways to see this snow. it's either a fact, or it's not. in this case, the "stealth" edit function doesn't work. period. that your brain even does this, negating something you can see with your own eyes, clearly displays a malfunctioning brain at work. why is this such a big deal? simple: the same people respond the same way in every situation, to every subject big or small, because their brains are functionally wired wrong. what you are seeing here, with these posts they make on this innocent-enough subject, have implications worldwide, that are quite serious. these people are absolutely effective tools to use against their fellow countrymen, because they DECEIVE THEMSELVES in favor of authority. even on some backwoods website like hc over something so small, you can directly observe their thought process; or lack thereof.

now, i understand most of you won't grasp the implications of what i'm saying here; and i know you'll just call it an off-topic rant. simply put, i am pointing out an easily observable phenomenon, that has dire implications. there are those among us, ladies and gentlemen, who will absolutely, ignore their OWN senses, taught or not, in favor of some authority figure; no matter how small. even one so innocuous as valeriy, who has no power beyond being the creator of some obscure website. if you're taking this kind of snow LIGHTLY, then you haven't been paying attention to the world at large. THESE are the kinds of people they have been using AGAINST everyone else.

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