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Kayna
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posted June 29, 2022 12:52 PM |
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Edited by Kayna at 13:13, 29 Jun 2022.
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I think women should have the right for an abortion when it's just cells dividing still. When they should keep it? I don't know exactly when. Some people say when it has a brain and a nervous system. Others say when a heartbeat is there. Either way, they should get access to it in cases of rape and health risks.
One thing worth mentioning is that it's very easy to tell her to keep it when she's the one sacrificing part of her health for it. Even in a standard couple, the decision should be about 25 % decided by the man and 75 % decided by the woman, so I'm not sure why the state is supposed to have more than 50 % of the say in the matter.
Another thing worth mentioning is how scary the pro lifers can be at times. I'm not even a woman and just saying that I don't consider cells dividing to be a human life can get some triggered so much, they look like they're just 1 step away from trying to bash my face in because somehow I'm enabling child murder. This must be way scarier for women. I firmly believe there is a certain amount of women that gets a late abortion instead of an early one because they are scared of those dudes. These pro lifers have the intention of saving baby lives but I could argue they end up indirectly killing babies from time to time, if you consider a fetus in a later stage to be one but not when they're in an earlier stage.
I think women should have the right for an abortion in the early stage and they must also have absolutely zero peer pressure either, and I consider giving them less than that to be an extreme opinion.
This decision wasn't even taken with women in mind in my opinion. The American overlords doesn't give a snow about abortions. Their number one priority is to keep the strongest military in the world and to keep their country together ( just enough, at least ). America has 2 extremes and they have to give both extremes what they want from time to time. This time it was the conservative's turn. I mean, they're only 40 percent of the country but they are more in favor of keeping the military budget high so they're important enough in the eyes of the government.
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artu
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posted June 29, 2022 01:52 PM |
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Kayna said:
the decision should be about 25 % decided by the man and 75 % decided by the woman.
And how is that going to work out exactly? I said dont abort with my 25 percent “share” and she said she will, 75 percent wins. How is that different than the decision belonging to her?
Do I call for back up or something? 
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Salamandre
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posted June 29, 2022 03:25 PM |
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25% for man? That's way too optimistic, the ones here having been married know man has much less decision power in a couple. When a woman has something in mind, it's over, she will win by attrition.
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JollyJoker
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posted June 29, 2022 03:46 PM |
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Why would you even expect to have ANY decision power?
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purerogue
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posted June 29, 2022 04:02 PM |
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LouWeed said:
Isn't it cheaper to subsidize abortion? Am I missing something obvious?
Liberals gave him a hard time so it's purely out of spite.
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purerogue
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posted June 29, 2022 04:08 PM |
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Kayna said:
Even in a standard couple, the decision should be about 25 % decided by the man and 75 % decided by the woman, so I'm not sure why the state is supposed to have more than 50 % of the say in the matter.
The state is the reason women have ANY say versus a man.
You don't have a problem when the shoe is on the other foot, ie. the draft, vacinnations etc.
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Kayna
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posted June 29, 2022 06:26 PM |
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artu said:
And how is that going to work out exactly? I said dont abort with my 25 percent “share” and she said she will, 75 percent wins. How is that different than the decision belonging to her?
Well, it ends up defaulting 0 to 100. I know it kinda sucks but hey, our only evolutionary role is to donate sperm. Once that's done, we can go eat snow and die.
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yogi
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posted June 29, 2022 07:05 PM |
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Edited by yogi at 19:06, 29 Jun 2022.
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Kayna said:
our only evolutionary role is to donate sperm. Once that's done, we can go eat snow and die.
being the creative force in the duality means so much more
she is the procreative force
she is nurture
he is nature
we are responsible for the environment
this duality is most evident during pregnancy and child birth
but our responsibilities extend throughout our entire lifetimes
denying this responsibility is both a social and a spiritual disease
we can do better than "eat snow and die"
die inspiringly
live inspiringly
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JollyJoker
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posted June 29, 2022 07:50 PM |
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Yeah, that has worked so well the last 4000 years.
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NimoStar
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posted June 30, 2022 10:36 AM |
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Edited by NimoStar at 10:40, 30 Jun 2022.
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Yeah, that has worked so well the last 4000 years.
How would "eating snow and dying" ever work well?
Better to try something good and fail, than to try something wrong and succeed.
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[25% vs 75%] Do I call for back up or something?
Maybe there are three posible fathers and if they are all against the abortion, well, they can stop it :-) lol
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JollyJoker
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posted June 30, 2022 10:59 AM |
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When you answer to a post the answer usually does not refer to the quoted part in the post. To assume that and construct a retort based on that ... well. 
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JollyJoker
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posted July 03, 2022 09:26 PM |
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Gandalf196
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posted July 03, 2022 10:25 PM |
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JollyJoker
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posted July 03, 2022 10:45 PM |
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Gandalf196
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posted July 03, 2022 11:05 PM |
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JollyJoker said:
What about it?
They are really effective and one might even say, suited for this sort of tragic event
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JollyJoker
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posted July 03, 2022 11:16 PM |
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Doesn't seem to have been administered - or worked. Which isn't that surprising, considering the victim is 10 years old.
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NimoStar
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posted July 04, 2022 11:41 AM |
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Ohio’s six-week “trigger ban” came into effect.
SO it's not tht this girl's abortion was ever to be denied this is a temporary measure. Pretty grisly that it has to be like this but some politician with ulterior motives also is right that this shoudn't even have happened in the first place.
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Minion
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posted July 04, 2022 12:22 PM |
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Gandalf196 said:
JollyJoker said:
Yeah, that was bound to happen.
What about morning-after pill ?
Ah, if only the father or uncle or whoever raped her would have fed her morning-after pills! All would be solved!
Pretty obvious the pregnancy was noticed way later, she was victim of child abuse. This is just awful.
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Ghost
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posted July 04, 2022 12:30 PM |
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Do you know embryo aged 0-2 weeks haven't a brain yet. 2 weeks after embryo developed brain fast. It means alive, feel, view, hear, etc It feels some cut off. But the Bible said when it came embryo is life, how the Bible knew earlier also the future in medical abortion.
I can't agree with abortion, I want illegal in UN law. Finnish women are normal for other countries play with life. But Finland planned light law, because of abortion news.. I don't think Finnish women start play with life, we are high-education or better gene who is good and health brain.. Sense/reason!
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JollyJoker
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posted July 04, 2022 02:18 PM |
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Brain isn't the same as brain activity which can be registered in week 20 at the earliest.
And what I find really strange is that so many people have a strong opinion about this who can't even become pregnant, whether willingly or unwillingly. Having an opinion about something you won't ever be able to experience yourself doesn't make a lot of sense, imo.
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