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Heroes Community > Heroes 4 - Lands of Axeoth > Thread: Is there a way to make AI aggressive?
Thread: Is there a way to make AI aggressive?
vulcancolak
vulcancolak


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posted September 22, 2022 09:23 AM
Edited by vulcancolak at 11:16, 22 Sep 2022.

Thread: Is there a way to make AI aggressive?

1-) Is someone knows what it means AI Priority within Campaign Editor?
I can set it to normal, high and vital

2-) I think i have discovered something important with AI. Fog of War is enabled for AI. When i put powerful army for AI in the empty map, it is roaming around the empty map for 3 weeks than attacks my town when discovered. But when i put dummy unit for AI in front of my town, it is rushing my town.

If you want to make AI more aggressive, simply give them the sight of your towns somehow. But can we verify this? AI have a Fog of War?

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Ghost
Ghost


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posted September 22, 2022 12:08 PM

Normal, high and vital are little meanings.. You can give a artifact is normal value, another artifact is vital, so AI knows vital artifact is more important and meaning than normal.. If you give all vital, so all the game is the same as normal.. The best you give a few of high and vital.. Fog of War? In the GS, AI knows where you are, but WoW removed AI bonus, so AI doesn't know you are hiding nearby.. Yes GS is better than stupid WoW..

I suggest you give some vital, and AI takes and gets creature growthing or hero lvl, etc But you can't give 1000 Cyclopses in a day or week, thus AI sleeps.. I tested them.. You play with AI.. So beware give a AI bonus or vital.. When it can be only one time.. The same Pandora's box, AI bought Gold Mine, etc Known H4.. Laugh!
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iliveinabox05
iliveinabox05


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posted September 22, 2022 04:09 PM

The topic of enhancing the AI has been discussed extensively over on CH.

Here is the main topic, started by Dalai: thread

Here is a thread for test results of the AI enhancing scripts: thread

Here is the thread for the H4 Advanced Editor, which can apply these AI enhancing scripts to any WoW map: thread

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iliveinabox05
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posted September 22, 2022 04:11 PM

vulcancolak said:
2-) I think i have discovered something important with AI. Fog of War is enabled for AI. When i put powerful army for AI in the empty map, it is roaming around the empty map for 3 weeks than attacks my town when discovered. But when i put dummy unit for AI in front of my town, it is rushing my town.

If you want to make AI more aggressive, simply give them the sight of your towns somehow. But can we verify this? AI have a Fog of War?


It has long been confirmed that giving the AI visibility of the map helps it tremendously since it no longer has to scout.

The advanced editor has an option to show the map to the AI.

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Ghost
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posted September 22, 2022 05:04 PM

Ok I must to try.. Thanks! OR I understand AI Enchanting scripts now.. But I'm using Time Event and other bonuses to AI.. I'll look later..
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NimoStar
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posted September 26, 2022 08:13 AM

I must warn people that beta testers have found crash bugs in certain map features when enabling these kinds of "ai scripts", crashes not present in the unscripted maps.
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iliveinabox05
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posted September 26, 2022 03:42 PM

NimoStar said:
I must warn people that beta testers have found crash bugs in certain map features when enabling these kinds of "ai scripts", crashes not present in the unscripted maps.


I have never encountered them.

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NimoStar
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posted September 26, 2022 06:39 PM

Well, you can read it in the discord and I was able to reproduce it, something about perhaps the scripts displacing some bytes from the map objects, perhaps related to the map data being too large.

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iliveinabox05
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posted September 26, 2022 09:12 PM
Edited by iliveinabox05 at 21:13, 26 Sep 2022.

I can't reproduce it, and the case you have brought up would only happen in the most extreme of circumstances, and so doesn't warrant any sort of "warning" as you have done, as if there is something inherently wrong with the scripting or application of the scripts to a map.

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Albyx
Albyx


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posted January 13, 2023 04:08 PM
Edited by Albyx at 16:12, 13 Jan 2023.

I never used Advanced Editor myself, but played some maps that use AI scripts from it and never encountered any problems on both Equilibris and Enhancement Mod. AI feels much more active and agressive with scripts.

I also started working on AI improving plugin, there is some progress!

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Ghost
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posted January 13, 2023 04:16 PM

5 AI vs you.. What H4 AIs like!
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Albyx
Albyx


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posted January 17, 2023 11:07 PM
Edited by Albyx at 23:09, 17 Jan 2023.

Ghost said:
5 AI vs you.. What H4 AIs like!


Believe it or not, but with test version of my AI improvements on Champion difficulty AI came after me on day 4 week 1. It's "The Dragons Wrath" map from original H4, red AI has black dragons from the start and direct portal to locations of all players

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ArdentWyrm
ArdentWyrm


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posted January 18, 2023 01:19 AM

Ghost said:
5 AI vs you.. What H4 AIs like!

that's why we need H4 mods, otherwise AI will die no matter what, unless you are behaving as the H4 AI behaves.
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Ghost
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Therefore I am
posted January 18, 2023 10:39 AM

ArdentWyrm said:
Ghost said:
5 AI vs you.. What H4 AIs like!

that's why we need H4 mods, otherwise AI will die no matter what, unless you are behaving as the H4 AI behaves.


Had you played my Untrue World I (H4)?

Ok mods should be improved AI, adds on object, fix a bug.. Not nobility to thief..
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