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phoenix4ever
Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
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posted October 15, 2023 10:20 AM |
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Poll Question:
Do you allow Angel Wings?
I'm not sure how I feel about Angel Wings, on one hand they are a cool and powerful artifact and they are the reason along with Pathfinding (and Wayfarer's Boots in HotA) that you might be able to skip Air Magic and save a skill slot. Can you rely on getting Angel Wings (or Wayfarer's boots) and not pick Air Magic though?
On the other hand it feels too powerful and it ruins Pathfinding and Navigation. In island maps, it might be even more powerful allowing you to cross islands, with a 0 mana Expert Fly every day.
It also looks kinda weird playing as a demoniac or necromancer and running around with Angel Wings.
How do you feel about Angel Wings?
Is Angel Wings the most powerful single artifact in the game? (If we disregard campaign artifacts like Armageddon's Blade and Horn of the Abyss.)
BTW. I'm thinking about XL or larger maps, not those short and puny 1-3 weeks cases.
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Drakon-Deus
Undefeatable Hero
Qapla'
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posted October 15, 2023 11:11 AM |
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They're the coolest thing in the game for me. I love 'em!
Keeping in mind that I only play Heroes to relax and have fun, not for custom maps with insane challenges or competitive online play.
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Ghost
Undefeatable Hero
Therefore I am
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posted October 15, 2023 01:06 PM |
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I can't say, but my new map's name is The Immortal Battle (WoG/ERA) banned Angel Wings, thus Quest Guards, etc don't allow you walk past Quest Guards, etc So I call Angel Wings is one "EE class". An example The Immortal Battle you get 1lvl spells, nothing else! Banned all Tomes, ok? How to get more spells? EE! I'm sorry that a friend of the map or game is strong MP or even world champion, when player had to figure out how to play with this the Immortal Battle is impossible level. If Angel Wings allowed, it ruins map. Another my maps can play with Angel Wings. So depend on map. Why not H4? Limited by graphics! H4 would relic class i.e. superstitious artifact, if graphics runs well. When H4 you can dig a water becomes hole means you also can stay in the mountain. I think so.. But question is funny.. What you can see 3DO maps are very different to the other mapmaker's maps.. 3DO maps are one "specimen", because scenario.. And you continue your story.. Common mapmakers banned Angel Wings due to walkthrough same as the Immortal Battle! Your question OP.. Yes OP, but DD is more OP.. I can't invent it.. I meant EE for walkthrough, it works fine! Angel Wings  Maybe my In The land of Nod (SoD) is realistic landscape.. Ok in there you can find an answer?! I don't know better.. But 3DO's RoE campaign's Seer's Hut asked Angel Wings.. I gave to Seer's Hut.. if I remember right.. So you can do Angel Wings or TP your Giant walkthrough map.. Then we got the answer! 
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heymlich
Famous Hero
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posted October 15, 2023 03:15 PM |
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NimoStar
Responsible
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posted October 15, 2023 07:33 PM |
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Edited by NimoStar at 19:33, 15 Oct 2023.
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Really it is "it depends" but more in practice is "Never" so I voted that.
At most this should let you cast "fly" but still taking spell points.
Also this gives even less water play. Water is already very maligned with a lot of stuff bypassing it entirely (Water Walk, Fly, Dimension Door, Town Portal...)
Really why is there no PRO-water movement spell?
Imagine "land boat" which is like Water Walk but backwards: You can cross land while on a ship, but you must end up on water 
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phoenix4ever
Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
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posted October 15, 2023 08:07 PM |
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Good comment NimoStar
I agree Angel Wings should at least have cost mana, then it would probably be perfectly acceptable.
And yeah it ruins water content, Navigation and Pathfinding, which already seems very niche.
I mean on a big island map, like mine, you are forced to sail in the beginning, so Navigation could make some sense, but as soon as you get Fly, DD, Water Walk or Angel Wings (currently and probably permanently not allowed in my map) or Boots of Levitation, there really is no reason to go back in to the water. (You also can't cast Town Portal in water, another reason to stay out of it.)
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bloodsucker
Legendary Hero
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posted October 15, 2023 09:30 PM |
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I envy how you don't get tired of playing the same map over and over again (mines would take less time if I could do that...) but I'm glad to see at least someone else here is still playing the game.
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Phoenix4ever
Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
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posted October 15, 2023 09:48 PM |
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Well since I keep changing the map and changing the rules, it's never really the same experience. And sometimes I play with a friend.
So yeah I don't think or hope I ever get tired of H3. (Of course it would also help if Factory would finally release for HotA.)
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heymlich
Famous Hero
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posted October 16, 2023 07:53 AM |
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Phoenix4ever said:
Well since I keep changing the map and changing the rules, it's never really the same experience.
I'm doing exactly the same thing. I only play one map, but it's never the same 
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phoenix4ever
Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
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posted October 16, 2023 10:02 AM |
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Nice.
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LordCameron
Known Hero
Veteran of the Succession Wars
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posted December 07, 2023 05:39 PM |
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Maybe I've just been lucky, but they've seemed rare enough that I don't mind having them in the game. They're a rare treat which occasionally totally changes the gameplay.
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