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Thread: Heroes 4: The Final Battle
NimoStar
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posted January 06, 2024 12:01 AM
Edited by NimoStar at 00:58, 06 Jan 2024.

Heroes 4: The Final Battle

Youtube



I was directed to this addon by BrucknerHun, who posted it in the Heroes 4 ULTIMATE discord server

Apparently, the main draw is that this game has original campaigns (which you will find translated into English in the next version of Heroes 4 Ultimate, so they aren't lost)

There is also a love of vintage tits art by Frank Frazetta and Luis Royo in the edited campaign selection.

What do you think? Why did we never have, to my knowledge, any thread of this here?

PS: The yandisk of the mod is a full independently playable ISO of the game, thus piracy; therefore as the forum rules command I haven't posted it directly. You have been warned
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BrucknerHun
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posted January 06, 2024 12:27 PM
Edited by BrucknerHun at 12:37, 06 Jan 2024.

Hi Nemo!

Yes, thanks for posting this!

Because I know it's really interesting stuff I found! YT just randomly threw it out for me and here we are, out of nowhere after all these years, a new add-on for the game!

But it's really interesting that you can't find almost any info on this. Looking at the comments and translating them, I came to the conclusion that this was some kind of limited edition CD/DVD add-on released in 2006, only in russian.

Commenters said how lucky the video guy is to have this add-on. Although there are no new features or creatures, all the original and the expansion campaigns are replaced with new ones. Not to mention the interesting main menu image, music, and new campaigns previews!

What do you think guys? Who could have made this, do you have any info?

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Roman2211
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posted January 06, 2024 03:44 PM

It is old Russian Pirate Editions there were a 8 of them. But I don’t advise you to play this, the campaigns are buggy and some are impassable

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NimoStar
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posted January 06, 2024 07:33 PM
Edited by NimoStar at 19:43, 06 Jan 2024.

I don't know what you mean by 8, but it seems this one is divided in three parts

1- Age of Death
2- Final Battle
3- Chariot of Destiny

Each of these has 18 campaigns (corresponding to 6 orig, 6 gathering, 6 winds) of varying quality

So all in all they have 18*3 = 54 campaigns in total

If you can direct to more, please do.

The campaigns have a (rather absurd) DRM but I was able to remove it. I strongly suspect these people used to sell their "expansions" in Russia, otherwise such measures and such industrially-generated content wouldn't make much sense. Much as China does, Russia used to have a "paid mod" scene.

There are also other errors: Presumably due to character encoding, some maps/packs of custom maps that come with the stuff refuse to be unpacked, at least on western-configured systems, so there are some maps I was unable to get (not from the campaigns since those use English filenames).


I couldn't get any custom maps from "Chariot of Destiny" due to this (there should be about 20 or so).

PS: Nevermind, its just a copy error from file manager. I was able to get them directly from the pre-install folder.

Figure this might be useful for others.

On the other hand, nothing is impassable with cheats but if you know specific locations/mechanics of problems to fix, I will hear it.
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baronus
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posted January 06, 2024 11:48 PM
Edited by baronus at 23:55, 06 Jan 2024.

baronus

Years ago I had Idea to extract all russian ,unofficial' addons because campaigns are oryginal but grabbed from web. And we can do something creative and original?
But it is a primitive pirate grabbing various resources. Rather ugly look.
Full list:
Heroes of Might and Magic IV: Alexander
Heroes of Might and Magic IV: Chariot of Destiny
Heroes of Might and Magic IV: Dragon Ring
Heroes of Might and Magic IV: Dungeons & Dragons
Heroes of Might and Magic IV: Epoch of Death
Heroes of Might And Magic IV: Excalibur
Heroes of Might and Magic IV: Last Battle
Heroes of Might and Magic IV: The Lord of the Rings

Extraxted campaigns
https://disk.yandex.by/d/xnRSZhCaatXwv/H4Pcampaign.zip

Maybe can be usefull? But probably all campaigns you can find in web.

Previuos post:
Excalibur

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NimoStar
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posted January 07, 2024 05:18 AM
Edited by NimoStar at 05:43, 07 Jan 2024.

Well, I didn't find all campaigns in web, so thank you. The ones I had as I said have 18 campaigns per "expansion" so there is definitely a lot of content.

On the other hand these guys should have tried modding, not only making campaigns, but oh well..,

PS: It seems these aren't the *full* campaigns, someone extracted only the ones from the first part, while not taking the other two, so I will still need to find the whole deal.

Final battle in this pack:


Final battle full:


Maybe other campaigns are included? Who knows.

PS2:
Hmmm, yes, six campaigns are reused and replaced, here is overlap between "final battle" and "Epoch of Death"


Funny that given the alignement/magical system they didn't make a "Heroes IV Magic: The Gathering", but I guess they only got MTG in Russia from 2006

I also got evidence that these were sold, not freely distributed, as I suspected


Seems like the took the cue of H3 Chronicles from 3DO...
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baronus
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posted January 07, 2024 10:28 AM
Edited by baronus at 10:53, 07 Jan 2024.

baronus

Ok. Only H4 main slots. But maybe only 6 is 'new content' but rest is original?
I try to find all.
But Its only packing web free campaigns. Russian pirates did minimum work.
Probably all can be find in web. Maybe only have russian translations. Do instead lost time to translate better to find eng originals.
But most of them is russian speaking players work. So must be translated.
It must be fund in russian sites eg.
https://heroesportal.net/en
Its a place for pirates...

Yes you can test it if can be something interesting and good for us od not? In fact they want only cash making fake 'versions'.

Original is only packing tool? Or maybe grabbed from web too?
Pirate packer
https://disk.yandex.by/d/xnRSZhCaatXwv/MH4.zip
How it works? Maybe usefull for fast packing?!

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Roman2211
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posted January 07, 2024 05:13 PM
Edited by Roman2211 at 17:18, 07 Jan 2024.

baronus said:
Extraxted campaigns
https://disk.yandex.by/d/xnRSZhCaatXwv/H4Pcampaign.zip
Pirate packer
https://disk.yandex.by/d/xnRSZhCaatXwv/MH4.zip

It is my own link! Yes, MH4 is working. Others: https://disk.yandex.by/d/xnRSZhCaatXwv

baronus said:
Yes you can test it if can be something interesting and good for us od not? In fact they want only cash making fake 'versions'.

You are deeply mistaken about "all by pirates", and this is already in the distant past. https://heroesportal.net - it is just Fan-site



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baronus
baronus


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posted January 07, 2024 05:49 PM
Edited by baronus at 17:53, 07 Jan 2024.

baronus

If you know where they find these maps tell us. And what's original tell je its interesting!
Ive found some info...

Its little complicated because they want to grab maximum money...

'Expansion' order:
1. Lord of the Rings - 3 campaigns + 65 maps
2. Dungeons & Dragons - 3 campaigns + 36 maps
3. Excalibur - 6 maps + 42 maps ( + all content Lord of the Rings, Dungeons & Dragons)
Total 12 campaigns 143 maps
So Excalibur is 'full edition' for three 'addons'.

4. Alexander  - 6 maps + 32 maps (+ all content Excalibur)
Total 18 campaigns 175 maps
Alexander is next and 'final''full edition' for 4 'parts'.

For next 'expansions' they made another trick...

5.The Dragon Ring  - 6 maps + 32 maps ( + Alexander, Lord of the Rings + Dungeons & Dragons??? )
Total 18 campaigns 165 maps???

6.Epoch of Death 6 maps + 30 maps ( + Alexander,The Dragon Ring)
Total 18 campaigns 94 maps

7.Chariot of Destiny 6 maps + 27 maps ( + The Dragon Ring, Epoch of Death)
Total 18 campaigns 89 maps

Its second 'full edition'.

8.Last Battle - 6 maps + 25 maps ( + Epoch of Death, Chariot of Destiny)
Total 18 campaigns 82 maps

So Last Battle is third 'full edition'.

As you see mish mash was made only to grab more money....

In fact you need only Alexander, Chariot of Destiny and Last Battle to have it all.
We have total 36 'new' campaigns and 257 'new' maps.
In fact this all probably is web grabbing players free work.
(Roman said that a lot is original - very good! May be used!)

This package contains all these 'new' campaigns:
https://disk.yandex.by/d/xnRSZhCaatXwv/H4Pcampaign.zip

Nimo you have three 'addons'. In this pack is full number of campaigns...

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NimoStar
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posted January 08, 2024 04:59 AM
Edited by NimoStar at 05:00, 08 Jan 2024.

Quote:
Do instead lost time to translate better to find eng originals.


I don't think so. Many of these seem to be made originally in Russian. Some of these are seemingly made only to pack into these pirated expansions. Not every campaign maker works originally in English either, I found Hungarian and Polish campaigns too, as well as Spanish and Russian online.

On the other hand, I did find that the name of the expansions is not very related to the actual content, IE The Lord of the Rings has something about a dragon wanting to stop the hunting of its kind, and its not even set in Middle Earth.

Quote:
https://disk.yandex.by/d/xnRSZhCaatXwv


This is a good resource to find all custom maps. But takes a lot of disk drive space, since you have to download the whole .ISO (and 2 ISO sometimes)

Would like a download with only the compilation of all included custom maps (even if considering game campaigns as already covered).
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baronus
baronus


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posted January 08, 2024 09:14 AM

Other option is download these big ISO. Extract all 'new content' and delete ISO. 'New' content easy can be packed into new.h4r and will be the same. Pirates has no knowledge how loading order works...
Probably 'campaign' is a fast merge some single scenarios without any sence.
To have something good from it needs reworking and maybe debugging.
Its a lot of 36 campaigns. Maybe dont try now 257 scenarios because its a lot of work and most of it is the same like download web map.
...
There is graphic stuff too. Especially menus and splashscreens.
Lets analize...
LoR and DnD menus are ugly
https://i110.fastpic.org/big/2019/0703/4f/eeae3f04c72eef91d647ac8e0760ee4f.jpg
https://i106.fastpic.org/big/2019/0703/f8/acad0ae022c9e69d5632567dfa565df8.jpg
Nothing for us we can get better.
Splashscreens. First two are primitive movie poster copy paste but 4 next may be interesting because its art. Can be used and fit to Heroes 4.
http://s2.cn.ru/data/images/imgs/2012/03/16/15986/15986807.jpg
Excalibur
We have baeuty Royo? artwork good known from web. But failed letters. We need delete Excalibur word and paste correct logo, so better is download it from net clean and make menu...
https://i106.fastpic.org/big/2019/0703/cd/97a7a7a4dc344aba96f292ab0306c7cd.jpg
But splashscreens is art and can be usefull!
https://i106.fastpic.org/big/2019/0703/3d/97b66940d04fc7ae8f8701924347443d.jpg
Alexander
Both are ancient Greece theme artworks. Nothing interesting...
https://i106.fastpic.org/big/2019/0703/c8/abb672b862cec6cbad211053992e46c8.jpg
https://i106.fastpic.org/big/2019/0703/d9/e4d16ba15a897cb4f26e5d9c430f91d9.jpg

I stop it because I must first find next screens.
As you see not only maps are interesting. Splashscreens may be used too...

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Roman2211
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posted January 10, 2024 06:51 AM
Edited by Roman2211 at 07:01, 10 Jan 2024.

SORRY. Forum do not use the Cyrillic, just copy it to convert-decoder from Google
Please, Don't blame me! I just want to help. and don't panic. List of the original maps names!

LOTR
Смертельная война - Mortal war
Арена - Duel Arena
Бега через реку - River Crossing
Битва за город - Asylum
Битва с варварами - Fire of the barbarians
Большая война - Big wars
Большая пустыня - Big desert in small kingdom
Брайан возвращается - Brian's Revenge
В гости к зайкам - Afr 1
В поисках пива - Looking for Beer
Выход - Escape
Горное озеро - Mountain Lake
Два героя - 2 heroes
Доверие людей - Rocky land
Долгий путь - subway
Дочь капитана - Capitans doughter
Жизнь на вулкане - Life on the Volcano
Закон и порядок - The law and order
Затопленный мир - The flooded world
Изумрудные острова - Ancient Ruins
Исторический лес - Forest history
Квадрат - Labyrinth
Когда бьются некромансы - Deadman2
Кровавая война - Blood war
Кровавые бега - Ace of Diamonds
Лабиринт - The Maze
Легенда про жизнь - Deadman
Ловкий - Slugfest
Маленькая война - Little war
Маленькая - Small
Морские монстры - Power of the Deep Sea
Невидимая тропа Speckled path of the hero
Новый год в опасности - Attention New Year in denger
Один на один - Duel
Острова - Groblin's map
Параноя - When paranoya rules the world
Плохой и хороший - Bad vs Good
Победа над соседями - Infinity
Повелитель войны - Peninsulas
Подземелье - Battleground
Поиски Джина - Searching a Ginn
Посмотри мне в глаза - Look in two eyes
Поход Артура - Stonehage
Прорыв врагов - A Narrow Divide
Путь к победе - De siege
Разлучённые враги - Separaped Enemis
Рыцарь тьмы - People`s trust
Резиденция зла - Resident Death
Свобода - Freedom
Сестры - lexx2
Смертельная осада - Deadly Siege
Спрятанные сокровища - Accidental hero
Страна динозавров - Dinoland
Сумасшедший день - Mad day
Шесть лордов - 6 gins

Dungeon Dragons
Агония - Agony and Nakedsoul
Армагедон - 3x3
Архипелаг - The Archipelago of Plenty
Битва в подземелье - Battle of underground
Война за ресурсы - Just another mine war
Вокруг мира - Round the world
Девять школ - Nine schools
Дуэль варваров - Barbarian Duel
Завоевание новой земли - Conquest of the new land
Затонувшие империи - Sunken Empires
Земля наших предков - Земля наших пращуров
КЕРГАН - K and death empire
Коррида - De siege
Круги и треугольники - Strange Circles and Triangles
Лабиринт - Labyrinth
Мир - этого не достаточно - The world is not enough
Несчастные времена - Unhappy times
Остаться в живых - Survivors
Остров Восхода Солнца - Island of Sunrise
Открытия - Discoveries
Пираты - Pirates LTD
Повелитель моря - Power of the Deep Sea
Последний крестовый поход - Last Crusade
Приключения принца Роберта - Prince Robert
Проклятые земли - Cursed Lands
Путешествие Малкома - Malcolm in the Middle
Путешествие Эгмонта - Egmont Quest
Речной альянс - Riverway
Рыцари островов - Knights of fohrty islands
Случайный герой - Accidental hero
Смерть и клевер - Death and clover
Тихий мир - The quiet world
Только один - only_one

Возвращение зла - ???
Жизнь и смерть - ???

Еxcalibur
Боевой маг - Cancelled campaign "Master of Elements fan remake for Tarnum"
Борьба с врагами 1 - History of struggle against enemies part 1
Борьба с врагами 2 - History of struggle against enemies part 2
Буря в пустыне - Desert Strike
Возвращение героя - Cancelled campaign "Возвращение блудной бабушки"
Война в пустыне - Desertwar
Война контрастов - A war of contrast
Вражда соседей - Peasants revolt
Два барана - Two Rams
Две стихии - Infernal fire vs Brute force
Демон - Demon
Дрончик - Dronchik_I
Дорога домой - Road to Home
Експеримент - Experiment (multi)
Изгнание - Excile
Королева Судьба 1 - Queen Sudba
Королева Судьба 2 - Queen Sudba 2
Корона - Corona
Круг дьявола - Elven circle
Место Под Солнцем - Place under sun
Месть - Revenge
Могильник - Grave world
Надежда умирает последней - Keep Hope Alive
Неудачник Крис - Loser Cris
Остров крови - Blood island
Острова - Coastland Jewels
Ось времени - Axis of Time
Патласар - Patlasar
Побег из Аксеота - Pobeg iz Acseota
Подготовка к отплытию - Cancelled campaign "Завоевание Великого Баххала"
Приграничные воды - Plains of Despair
Призрачная угроза - Ghost threat
Противостояние - Confrontation
Путь воина - Way of the warrior
Робин Лучший -Robin the Best
Сокол Победы - The Falcon of Victory
Спасите Вампира - Save the vampire
Спокойный мирок - The quiet world
Средиземноморье - Mediterranean1
Хронцузкая революция - BIP Budunskay Revolution
Хрупкий мир - Fragle world
Этот безумный,безумный,безумный мир - Crazy World

Alexander
Безконечная война - The War of Endless Live
Безсмысленная война - Crazy World
Богатая земля - Coastland Jewels
Большие приключения - Part from campaign "Приключения Меча и Магии"
Борьба с Мертвецами - History of struggle against enemies part 1 Alive vs Undead
Борьба с Хаосом - History of struggle against enemies part 2
Взрыв - Blown Away
Вражда - Protivostoyanie
Врата Мира - Escape
Долгие поиски - Dolgie Poiski
Дуэль - Duel
Забредший герой - Accidental hero
Золотая середина - Golden middle
Захватчики - Invasion
История эльфа - Mad elf story
Кресты и Нули - Крестики - нолики
Кто кого - Кто кого
Огонь или Сила - Infernal fire and Brute force
Один на один - Demons, Water & Death vs Proo & Agranel
Олимпиада - Town of Sport & Games
Отмщение - Otmoroz
Ошибочка вышла - Ошибка
Паладин - Paladins of might and magic
Русский парень - A Russian guy
Соккер - Soccer for Heroes
Странный мир - Strange World
Троли - Trills
Узник Драконов - Dragon's prisoner

Кольцо Дракона
7 Озер - 7 Lakes
Атлантида - Atlantida
Багдадский Вор - Bahdads Thief
Большая Суша - Zauberwald
Великая Битва - Battleworld
Джон Рэмбо - Rembo
Дьявол и Сатана - World Leader
Земледелец - Vally Farmer's
Земля Отцов - Danger land
Игра - Shallow Be Thy Game
Камень, ножницы, бумага - World Leade2
Клевер - Crimson and Clover
Кровавая Война - Blood war
Кто первым - Who first
Лонг Айленд - Long Island
Между Тремя Драконами - Between the Three Dragons
Мертвячина - Dead must be dead
Меч Элессдилов - Sword of Elessdils
Опасность - Danger on the swamp
Остров Смерти - Another Island
Правитель - World Leader
Русский солдат - Vasiliy Terkin
Урбан - Alpha Detroit
Ферма - Mards Tods Farm
Ферма, часть вторая - Mards River Fork
Черное и белое - Black and White
Чернокнижник - chernoknizhnik
Чехарда - Apatity

Близнецы - ???
Ксена - ???

Эпоха смерти
Баскетбол - Basketball for Heroes
В поисках Новогодней Елки - Seeking for the New Year's Tree
Виновники беспорядка - The founders of the disorder
Война Бесконечной Жизни - The War of Endless Live
Выбор Пути - Choice of a Way
Давняя вражда - Recent Feud
Дед и Андед - Dead & Undead
Дед, Андед и Колобок - Dead & Undead 2
Империя - Empire
Локуст - Demon
Мистерия - Notre Dame de Paris
Немезис - Nemesis
Огонь и сила - Infernal fire vs Brute force
Остров Восхода Солнца - Island of Sunrise
Полная белиберда - Сэр Чувак
Полная белиберда - Сэр Чувак 2
Полная белиберда - Сэр Чувак наносит ответный удар
Последний город Эрафии - Last Town of Erathia
Последний крестовый поход - Last_Crusade
Последний шанс Эрафии - The Last Chance
Противоположности - A War of Contrast
Родные края - Grandmothers's Syndicat
Рыцари архипелага - Knights of fohrty islands
С Новым Годом! - Happy New Year
Смущенный герой - 1 Amused Player
Сокол Победы - The_Falcon_of_Victory
Тайна приспешника - Part from campaign "Возвращение в Эрафию"
Три друга - Fark_Zerin_and_Artongud
Фастмагория - Дрончик
Центр мира - Viss atrodas centraa

Колесница судьбы
В пекле Ада - Part from campaign "керган и империя смерти"
Возвращение Кергана - Part from campaign "керган и империя смерти"
Керган - Part from campaign "керган и империя смерти"
Крестовый Поход - Part from campaign "керган и империя смерти"
Геометрия - Strange Circles and Triangles
Зуб за зуб - 1vs1
И стены могут говорить - If These Walls Could Talk
Магический лес - Magic Forest
Мозаика - Хрупкий мир
Неутешные - Plains of Despair
Освоение целины - Conquest of the new land
Охота за драконами - Hunters on dragons
Первый - only_one
Пророчество - Prophecy
Смертельное ущелье - Death Valley
Чарагауст - Charragaust
Шесть героев - 3x3
Поиск Минерала - Seems Mineral
Борьба - Struggle
Демонстрация силы - Showdown
Закрытая битва - Close Combat
Разбитое короолевство - Shattered Kingdoms
Снежный мост - Winter Bridge
Супергерои - SuperHeroes

Орда Героев - ???
Тень Смерти - ???
Шахты - ???

Последняя битва
Акесал - Nicodim
Беглецы - Поиск беглецов
Белеберда - Мир-Музей
Больное воображение - Look in two eyes
В поисках выхода - Escape
Веллиант возвращается - Brian's Revenge
Две сестры - lexx2
Дженни в поисках - Searching a Ginn
Джим и Белла - Bella and Jim
Земля обетованная - Cмертельная война
Зигфрид и Брюнхильд - Zigfrid & Brunhild
Капитан Сид - Джуманджи
Кровавая война - Смертельная Осада
Обитель зла - Resident Death
Парк Юрского Периода - DinoLand
Поэма - Капитанская дочь
Приключение - Долгие поиски
Приключения Тиграна - A Destiny of Prince
Проклятые земли - Проклятые земли
Реванш - Separaped Enemis
Священная война - Last_Crusade
Сказка - Attention New Year in denger
Смертельная схватка - Deadman2: When Necromans fight
Судьба мира - Deadman: Legend of life
Черная Пещера - каньон part from "Germany Campaign"

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baronus
baronus


Legendary Hero
posted January 10, 2024 11:18 AM

Dont do it! Dont waste topic! In this case make a screenshot! Not these horribke look.
If you have it better make a download packs!
1. Campaigns we have it.
2. Maps
3. Splashscreens (small and big)
4. Menus
5. Music
Movies are scraps from Hollywood hits so we dont need it.

Other question with this ,editions' is that most od them is correlated from Hollywood movie hit eg. Lord od the rings, Alexander (2004) The Dragon Ring (TV Series 1994– ) Dungeons & Dragons ( 2000,2005) Epoch  Death Gate (2001) to have more clients! These pirates knows something about product marceting...

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Roman2211
Roman2211


Adventuring Hero
posted January 10, 2024 11:55 AM
Edited by Roman2211 at 11:58, 10 Jan 2024.

baronus said:
These pirates knows something about product marceting...
Please, STOP! They were created a 20 years ago! Your criticism is inappropriate, the era of discs is already behind us

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NimoStar
NimoStar


Responsible
Legendary Hero
Modding the Unmoddable
posted January 10, 2024 03:16 PM
Edited by NimoStar at 15:17, 10 Jan 2024.

Seen some campaigns. Some are quite bad though. I think this is an original one.



Most of the map spaces are empty. This is actually your starting location in the first map, you can imagine the rest-

See those events? There is no events. They didn't script them.

This campaign is named "The curse of the elves" and is tagged as "Bard" campaign in "The Lord of the Rings" expansion.

Supposedly a continuation of Elwin and Shaera, you start with like a level 35 hero (Elwin), but the neutrals are as if you were level 1...

Anyways, I have been remastering this campaign precisely because of how bad it is, for ultimate, with fixed (added) events and more stuff:


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Never changing = never improving

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baronus
baronus


Legendary Hero
posted January 10, 2024 04:13 PM

As you see its very fast and crappy work only to cash.
If you have willingnes you can build something better.
To make it faster I suggest extract all and change order from easiest to hardest not to have 35 lvl hero and 1lvl enemy...
Sholud be faster reworking it than making it from zero...

Will be good to change some lore. Eg. ancient ruler Alexander dont fit to Axeoth...
Fantastic idea is replacing by... Lysander!
King Lysander Gryphonheart

So campaign Lysander may be great! And other the same style...

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NimoStar
NimoStar


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Legendary Hero
Modding the Unmoddable
posted January 10, 2024 09:32 PM

Well. Your main enemy in the first map is just level 5. So I made Elwin level 5 (as a starting hero from Winds of War) and improved monsters and AI bit. That takes care of balance for the most part, though you have to take every map into account.

Can take landscaping these gaps as a sort of Taoist meditation exercise, at least I don't have to worry about overall map design so can turn off my neurons for a bit.
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baronus
baronus


Legendary Hero
posted January 11, 2024 01:33 PM

I think that 5 lvl for start is a lost a lot of fun from leveling! Always prefer 1lvl start!
Eg. limits. 10,15,20,25,30,35 etc for each map

Rather nothing  interesting.
https://i106.fastpic.org/big/2019/0703/8d/f3020df57e35897e0d97d0b008fbbd8d.jpg
https://i106.fastpic.org/big/2019/0703/53/235bba1fde3cb13d125f0c9b207c6d53.jpg
Interesting menus are:
Dragon ring
https://i106.fastpic.org/big/2019/0703/d0/4069028b15bb54ce8c28313b5f9b6ed0.jpg
Final battle
https://i106.fastpic.org/big/2019/0703/59/387940664830c5ec81119544785a2d59.jpg

All splashscreens are interesting can be usefull:
https://i106.fastpic.org/big/2019/0703/a1/6d86caa0e330d2914701d1cbd6cd48a1.jpg
https://i106.fastpic.org/big/2019/0703/e8/e7b4178ecb86f160025338853358a3e8.jpg
https://i106.fastpic.org/big/2019/0703/1d/a6f98b11bb651aa072cf4415a331d31d.jpg

Other question is music.

Movies not because its always Hollywood movie scrap...

For single maps Ive found two
LoR
- Mortal war
https://heroesportal.net/en/maps/view/745
- Arena
https://heroesportal.net/en/maps/view/4260

And I stopped. As I wrote its download from web... Its waste time searching 257! maps! Beter deal is download random packs from these sites and play.

To have something good from this very bad work is reworking campaigns and some graphic stuff and maybe some music. Thats all can we have...
Maybe 6 real addons by 6 campaigns = 36 with 6 menus and splashscreens similiar to Heroes Chronicles.
For single maps - can be easily downloaded from web by players. Dont see sense simply download it and pack. Only if we reworking scenario and give something new it give something fresh.


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