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Heroes Community > Other Side of the Monitor > Thread: 2028 US Election Thread
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Blizzard
Blizzard


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May Contain Nuts
posted February 29, 2024 06:29 PM

2028 US Election Thread

This is the place to discuss the candidates.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN54jkwleLw&t=239s

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Life and Freedom
posted February 29, 2024 09:53 PM

Do you think that there will still be election that time?
Don't you know that the time of Apocalypse and then The Judgement Day has already begun? and all the Horsemen of Apocalypse are Heroes of Might and Magic players and modders indeed...

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posted March 01, 2024 02:37 PM

Kennedy is the remedy.
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Blizzard
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May Contain Nuts
posted March 05, 2024 05:32 PM
Edited by Blizzard at 20:27, 05 Mar 2024.

I have to open the thread in advance once HoMM 8 launches and the forum explodes into activity. It has only been 10 years since I played HoMM so I still consider myself to be an active gamer.

The Civil War was the bloodiest conflict that ever happened in the Western Hemisphere in Earth's history. Once Civil War Part 2 starts in 2024, the 2028 election will be a really big deal. I'm planning on having radiation immunity plus green skin and super strength / nightvision / biological immortality by this point in time, not to mention genitals thrice the size of a black man, so it is going to be pretty awesome. I love the idea of being incapable of having sex except with a she-ogre. I just need to make sure Fred79 doesn't headshot me sometime between now and when the nuclear holocaust gives me superhuman abilities. I think he's had one too many fentanyl injections so fortunately he probably has shaky hands and really bad aim. Ascension to godhood is more-or-less guaranteed.

Also, Minnesota is now officially a swing state. That hasn't happened since 1972, which of course was with Nixon's second term because nobody liked LBJ anymore. I'm curious to see how Haley does in some of these states on Super Tuesday. She won already in the DoC primary, not that that really says much but I'm assuming she'll just stay in it to the very end to build up her brand for when 2028 happens. Trump and Biden are both going for the 2nd term so either way it is a one term presidency and then afterwards it's open season.

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artu
artu


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My BS sensor is tingling again
posted March 06, 2024 06:05 AM

Use the thingy for giving proper links, it’s annoying to copy/paste links on a phone or tablet without it. We should be able to just click them.
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JollyJoker
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posted March 06, 2024 12:16 PM

At this point the only hope for the US are that Biden has an accident and the Dems can pull someone acceptable out of their hat or that Haley goes independent and enough people are sick and tired of the US being a gerontocracy worse than there was in the USSR pre-Gorbachev.

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Blizzard
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posted March 06, 2024 10:56 PM
Edited by Blizzard at 23:07, 06 Mar 2024.

Well I'm immediately wrong. Haley dropped out after Super Tuesday. I thought she just might stay in it to see how many delegates she can pick up even if she doesn't win anymore states. I guess she wants to keep her solidarity within the party.

I don't think gerontocracy is the issue and neither does most anybody else. Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump are both old as dirt but their minds are in good shape, they have good support among youth, and they do well on camera. That's what matters. Biden unfortunately is no longer with us except in body but frankly even back when he was VP he was a bit of a gaff machine. It has just deteriorated to the point where you don't know whether to laugh or feel sorry for the guy, but since he insists on running instead of stepping aside, there's only so much pity I can have because the Democratic party is sinking with him. Basically all of the the groups that give Democrats the bump they need to win have been switching over to the GOP: Hispanics, blacks, kebabs, Jews, etc. Trump still polls terribly among black women but over a quarter of black men are now saying they will choose him over Biden. That has never before happened in the past 100 years and it might show that both of the parties are going through another big restructuring with where their votes come from. The Democratic party is now seen as incompetent when it comes to having a secure border and frankly it's a title they've earned. Urban centers are usually the hardest hits with waves of migrants and that is where Biden's voters are at.

In the case of Michigan (a critical swing state) where there are Muslim members of Congress, they are disavowing Biden because they want a harsher stance towards Israel's bombings. They won't vote Trump, but they won't show up to vote for Biden. Now, that is basically a lose/lose, because if Biden does what they want that will just move more people over to the GOP. There's really nothing he can do there that wouldn't hurt him, but losing Michigan is bad news for him.

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artu
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My BS sensor is tingling again
posted March 07, 2024 12:51 AM

Why is the Democratic Party sinking with him? That is, why are they still supporting him and not comin up with someone else?
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Blizzard
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posted March 07, 2024 03:06 AM
Edited by Blizzard at 14:01, 07 Mar 2024.

Because the primary elections (elections within the party for who will be on the general election ballot in November) are already happening right now in different states and an incumbent president is pretty much guaranteed to win most of the delegates. There's other candidates running but they don't have the kind of national recognition that Biden does. People might vote for a member of Congress that's known and popular within that state, but that person doesn't have national recognition. Running a presidential campaign is really hard to do and involves a ton of planning and fundraising in advance. If Biden said a year ago that he was going to do one term, it would have allowed other people to build up recognition and a campaign, but that never happened. He's going for term two, where he'll be 86 years old by the time he's done, which is ridiculous because his mind is already a mess.

And honestly it's not surprising, because the personalities of people who run for president are usually extremely headstrong. Like, quite a lot of people wanted Greg Abbott, governor of Texas, to run in the GOP primary, but he simply wasn't interested. Same thing with the governor of California, Gavin Newson, for the Democrats. He doesn't want the job. Not very many people do.

edit: In the US, the political parties in Congress don't get to select the presidential candidate in the primary the way some places do with a prime minister. A campaign needs to launch and the person needs to go out and get the millions of votes needed to be put on the final ballot.
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JollyJoker
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posted March 07, 2024 09:35 AM

Trump is deteriorating fast - how often has he now mistaken Biden for Obama?

The real dead are the two parties, though. Zombies. They are the real culprits destroying the US. And that presidential picking of supreme court judges.

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Ghost
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Therefore I am
posted March 07, 2024 11:42 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYtsCfGmQ-k

He is a legendary.. But Biden has famous senile So Americans have been forced to vote Trump.. When Biden lied healths to kick Trump by Obama.. Do you remember he is a good health.. I really haven't a worry.. Trump is a good choice..

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phe
phe


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Life and Freedom
posted March 07, 2024 12:13 PM

We can sooner achieve more and better by permanent protests than elections...

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Blizzard
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May Contain Nuts
posted March 07, 2024 02:18 PM

@JJ:

This is just vague and angry internet ranting. Trump is a much more focused candidate than Biden. Everybody knows this, including his opponents.

And his message is working. He's polling (by GOP standards) ridiculously high in groups that have always gone Democrat:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/09/19/trump-poll-support-black-hispanic/

Nobody knows at this point if those trends are going to last beyond just 2024, but if they do, it means the face of the two big parties is going to be a lot different than how things used to be.


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JollyJoker
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posted March 07, 2024 06:37 PM

"Much more focused" just means "hasn't lost it as much as the other". Trumps first term started eight years aho (when he was eight years fitter, mentally), but he still behaved like a child with ADHD in the office and was more interested in playing gold than anything else, if you can trust the reports about him.
He's only interested in himself, at that, so it's a pick between a senile and a an egomaniacal halfwit.

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Ghost
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Therefore I am
posted March 07, 2024 06:49 PM

But Trump's office smelt Cannabis.. Some told about office, I don't remember what was the topic in news.. No proof that Trump smoked Cannabis or someone else in allowed state..

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Blizzard
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posted March 07, 2024 07:45 PM

This is the argument people use and it is not a winning argument. A self-centered and egotistical halfwit can still get a lot of things done, which he in fact did. Character attacks only go so far. At some point the Democratic party needs to evaluate their policy and stop relying so heavily on attacking Trump's character or lack of character. People don't currently trust the administration's willingness to enforce the border, and this has most heavily hit Biden's own voters in the cities. Not a good move. Wasting money for an unwinnable war in Ukraine is increasingly unpopular, including among some liberals. That is a policy issue.

And it goes both ways really. Having a senile president doesn't mean the country will just magically stop functioning. There could be a sponge inside of a pineapple in the oval office and the country would keep running. The policies still need to be talked about.
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JollyJoker
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posted March 07, 2024 10:22 PM

The senile did get a lot of things done as well, so that's a useless point. The actual problem isn't that the Dems are attacking Trump's character - everyone who has one does that anyway, including some Reps. The problem is that THE PARTY is obviously unable and/or unwilling to do the sensible thing and give the Americans a REAL alternative. Biden had his moment, but he's overstaying his welcome, if he indeed goes for a second term; this is obviously and objectively wrong decision for
a) The USA
b) the people
c) the Democratic party
so it's pure egoism that drives Biden to go for a second term (or senility/dementia), which makes Biden not a good choice.

HOWEVER, that's just ONE side of the problem coin. The OTHER is, that the Reps are unable/unwilling to exclude Trump, since he's bad for everyone except himself and against Biden every sensible candidate who's halfway moderate  and looks halfway competent will win.

So in the end it's the parties that suck because they allow crappy candiates to get nominated - and the population isn't better because they are unable/unwilling to make their cross somewhere else than either here or there.

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Blizzard
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posted March 09, 2024 02:37 PM
Edited by Blizzard at 16:53, 09 Mar 2024.

That is a completely disingenuous and pessimistic answer.

If you want an authoritarian government, you should just be open and honest about it. A lot of people in the world do, so you would have plenty of company. Stop pretending to be a bulwark of freedom while you openly want countries to exclude popular candidates from the ballot. That is a completely unacceptable thing to do. There was just recently a politician in Russia who basically wasn't allowed to run and that was assassinated in jail.

Donald Trump is a popular candidate. Not that it matters for the US election, but he's also a pretty popular guy around the world too. Whether you agree with it or not, there are a lot of people who like Trump and who like politicians with similar views to Trump, including in Western Europe. Instead of being autocratic and trying to get him eliminated from the ballot, people should challenge him in the election, like how it is suppose to work. He was already president for 4 years. The world was not sucked into a black hole. The economy is not sick and dying. Unemployment is low. And same thing with Biden: people are voting for him because he has brand recognition and because they support his policies. He shouldn't be "kicked out the party" because he's gone senile. If people vote for him in the primary, then he deserves to be on the general election ballot. That is exactly how it is suppose to work.

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JollyJoker
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posted March 09, 2024 10:39 PM

Blizzard said:
That is a completely disingenuous and pessimistic answer.

Stopped reading after that. Those pills you are on are not my thing.
Floor is yours. Same as the US of A. For what it's worth.

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artu
artu


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My BS sensor is tingling again
posted March 10, 2024 08:30 AM

@bb

Is there any proof that Navalny was assasinated? He was already imprisoned, politically finished and most Russians were led to believe he was a traitor, so why kill him and make him a martyr? People die in jail all the time.
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