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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: Are the pyramids fair?
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Phoenix4ever
Phoenix4ever


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posted August 29, 2024 07:33 AM

Apparently you did'nt explain it good enough, cause I listen, but I don't understand.

Perhaps I should mention you can't bypass guards and gates in HotA and DD is only once per day, otherwise I agree, they are too much.

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gnollking
gnollking


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posted August 29, 2024 10:19 AM

Phoenix4ever said:
If you remove DD and Fly on a XL +underground map, you are just gonna make the map take even longer. That imo

Good maps don't straight up remove all the strong spells, they are carefully rewarded in pre-defined locations. They also don't leave them to complete RNG, allowing people to get them from any random reward, which will completely push the game in one player's favor. I would (and have) even put low-tier spells like Slow, Haste and Blind in this category. Even Summon Boat and Water Walk can be problematic to the designed map progress. Limiting all the game-breaking spells and other tactics keeps the game interesting, only gaining access to them later in the scenario means you can't always go with the same old strategies.

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Phoenix4ever
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posted August 29, 2024 12:42 PM
Edited by Phoenix4ever at 12:43, 29 Aug 2024.

But you can't really do that, tomes of magic x 4 exists and Spellbinder's Hat, some even allow Angel Wings. (Not me) And stuff like Warrior's Tombs and Shipwreck Survivors exists, they can randomly provide major and relic artifacts. +Dragon Utopias and Temple of the Seas in HotA.
I guess you somehow wanna limit all that too?

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gnollking
gnollking


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posted August 29, 2024 01:30 PM

Phoenix4ever said:
But you can't really do that, tomes of magic x 4 exists and Spellbinder's Hat, some even allow Angel Wings. (Not me) And stuff like Warrior's Tombs and Shipwreck Survivors exists, they can randomly provide major and relic artifacts. +Dragon Utopias and Temple of the Seas in HotA.
I guess you somehow wanna limit all that too?

Disabling spells in the map settings disables them from all sources, except when you manually place the spell somewhere.

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heymlich
heymlich


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posted August 29, 2024 01:51 PM
Edited by heymlich at 13:52, 29 Aug 2024.

gnollking said:

Disabling spells in the map settings disables them from all sources, except when you manually place the spell somewhere.


Really? In H3 complete without mods? I was quite sure, you can still use them with the hat/tome and you can also learn them from heroes that start with them. But I haven't tried that in ages, so I might be mistaken. I simply disable these artifacts/heroes.

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Ghost
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posted August 29, 2024 02:02 PM

What?
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Phoenix4ever
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posted August 29, 2024 02:24 PM

gnollking said:
Disabling spells in the map settings disables them from all sources, except when you manually place the spell somewhere.

Yes, but then you will also know exactly what to do to get those spells, if you designed the map.
AI won't know and other human players probably won't either, unless they have played the map before.

I like the unpredictability. If I just knew where to go, there would be no challenge at all.

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heymlich
heymlich


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posted August 29, 2024 04:42 PM

Phoenix4ever said:

... other human players probably won't either.


That's what the event text is for.

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Salamandre
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posted August 29, 2024 04:44 PM

You complain about things never happening. Are there pyramids in custom maps? 99,999% no., and if there is one sometimes, it is dully placed so you reach it.

Are there pyramids in random maps? yes, but as you play vs computer only, why care. You will get them all, and even if bad spell, why bother, just pick angel wings nearby.

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Phoenix4ever
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posted August 29, 2024 05:28 PM
Edited by Phoenix4ever at 17:29, 29 Aug 2024.

Apparently you can't read, because I just said Angel Wings are not allowed in my map.
Pyramids are, but I am not sure they should be.

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Salamandre
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posted August 29, 2024 05:56 PM

There is zero mention of your map only, in the opening post. So we talk about an unknown map, which nobody will probably play because you will never publish, then it evolves in general discussion, yet the situation you describe will never be found in another map. Waste of time?

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Ghost
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posted August 29, 2024 06:13 PM

When updated map so often, map became fat and hell level But I don't laugh, thus my bro is playing Illusion world 2 in past time.. He felt so strong player.. Yes only map from hundreds of maps.. He chose Illusion world 2.. Yes a new map, but played once, and Illusion world 2 again.. Is ok? Good you publish your map already today, please.. I want to play your map also to get understand what did you mean.. Our :eyes:
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Phoenix4ever
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posted August 29, 2024 06:17 PM

Salamandre said:
There is zero mention of your map only, in the opening post. So we talk about an unknown map, which nobody will probably play because you will never publish, then it evolves in general discussion, yet the situation you describe will never be found in another map. Waste of time?

Maybe not in the opening post, but just a few posts ago, I mentioned Angel Wings are not allowed in map and then you go ahead and mention I should just go get Angel Wings. So you can't have read that post or followed the discussion much.

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bloodsucker
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posted August 29, 2024 10:33 PM

Phoenix4ever said:
So you can't have read that post or followed the discussion much.
That's cause what you call a discussion is everybody agreeing to disagree with you on that totally bonkers idea and you still convinced you're right cause... "the others don't play/ don't know what the f... is in my map/mod".
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Phoenix4ever
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posted August 29, 2024 11:20 PM

What totally bonkers idea?
I just proved Salamandre did'nt read the discussion that's all.
Can we get back to the topic now, plz.

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bloodsucker
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posted August 30, 2024 01:43 AM

You were an only child weren't you?
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Phoenix4ever
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posted August 30, 2024 07:36 AM


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Ghost
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posted August 30, 2024 01:48 PM

Phoenix4ever said:



Yesterday you promised to publish your map.. Where can we download your map?

EDIT

Because you ask us, and then you edit your map, right?
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phoenix4ever
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posted August 30, 2024 03:24 PM
Edited by phoenix4ever at 15:24, 30 Aug 2024.

Ghost said:
Yesterday you promised to publish your map..

I have never promised that.

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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


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posted August 30, 2024 03:42 PM

Are you sure? I remember that too.
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