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vulcancolak
Famous Hero
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posted September 26, 2024 12:24 PM |
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The only thing that i fear
Heroes 3 boomers. Sadly i believe this game will become new generation of Might and Magic 3. I hope they prove me wrong. I bet majority of people says "HoMm 3 iS tHe BeSt"
I want remake for Heroes 4. A.K.A Best Heroes 4 game to me. Even with it's many flaws, still i believe it is the best.
In the other hand, they have already tried different things with 6 and 7 but every step they take, i feel game becomes more "new player friendly"
They have started to kill major strategies. Yes i have played all HoMM games and enjoyed but i hope they will not return to Heroes 3 again.
Or i hope they will create new and different game.
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Charrclaw
Known Hero
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posted September 26, 2024 04:15 PM |
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Heroes 5 was an excellent game, and it shared a number of things with Heroes 3.
The problem is when you want to make modern copy of the game. I don't think Heroes 6 was a bad game, but Ubisoft killed it with its always online policies and stuff.
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xlnt
Known Hero
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posted September 26, 2024 07:21 PM |
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vulcancolak said:
Heroes 3 boomers. Sadly i believe this game will become new generation of Might and Magic 3. I hope they prove me wrong. I bet majority of people says "HoMm 3 iS tHe BeSt"
I want remake for Heroes 4. A.K.A Best Heroes 4 game to me. Even with it's many flaws, still i believe it is the best.
In the other hand, they have already tried different things with 6 and 7 but every step they take, i feel game becomes more "new player friendly"
They have started to kill major strategies. Yes i have played all HoMM games and enjoyed but i hope they will not return to Heroes 3 again.
Or i hope they will create new and different game.
you should fear mediocracy and opinion based post - like we boomers do (;
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Geny
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
What if Elvin was female?
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posted September 27, 2024 07:26 AM |
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So, you don't want a game deeply rooted in nostalgia.
But you also don't want a game that will cater strongly to "new players".
And actually you do want a game rooted in nostalgia, but only as long as it's your own nostalgia.
Actually, that seems to sum up the HoMM fanbase in general.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted September 27, 2024 07:42 AM |
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xlnt said:
you should fear mediocracy and opinion based post - like we boomers do (;
Like the man said 
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H5 is still alive and kicking, join us in the Duel Map discord server!
Map also hosted on Moddb
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Drakon-Deus
Undefeatable Hero
Qapla'
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posted September 27, 2024 01:26 PM |
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Geny said:
So, you don't want a game deeply rooted in nostalgia.
But you also don't want a game that will cater strongly to "new players".
And actually you do want a game rooted in nostalgia, but only as long as it's your own nostalgia.
Actually, that seems to sum up the HoMM fanbase in general.
Nailed it.
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Horses don't die on a dog's wish.
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The_Polyglot
Promising
Supreme Hero
channeling capybara energy
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posted September 27, 2024 05:23 PM |
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I just want a phenomenal soundtrack. I don't care if the game runs like ass with the gameplay loop being so much warmed-over dog crap and the community being toxic as heck
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Dreamaster
Tavern Dweller
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posted September 27, 2024 08:27 PM |
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Wait for some time and AI will make your dream game for you!
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Wolfnacht
Tavern Dweller
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posted November 02, 2024 07:28 PM |
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So far game looks good, based on their dev blogs and "Heroes Take Turns" youtube channel it's a return to form, bringing back old and good mechanics from both H3 and H5, improving them if such need arises. My only real concern right now is price and the possibility of Ubi forcing any agenda catered towards "modern audiences" in the story, but maybe the Serbs will stand strong.
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bloodsucker
Legendary Hero
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posted November 02, 2024 07:58 PM |
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I love the "modern audiences" thing, I'm always eager to beat Tazar's crap with Neela and all but definitively, I don't won't to buy a game that forces me on-line. I've played a few matches on-line, not only of Heroes, and I'm absolutely sure it's not my cup of tea. If one of you beats me once I will wake up at night with rage dreams about sadistically kill him for months in a row.
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Ghost
Undefeatable Hero
Therefore I am
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posted November 02, 2024 08:46 PM |
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Dreamaster said:
Wait for some time and AI will make your dream game for you!
If H4 modder succeeds AI becomes stronger.. When chess engines are from people, no computer company.. They succeeded chess engines are the world's strongest opponents.. Our Carlsen, his chess rating 2831, but Stockfish 17 is 3643 rating.. Ok we don't need their programs, but computer company could give a program.. What? Today computer is already OP enough, but blinded to obey a program like H4, or much better role-playing games.. Computer company could give a program gives to AI freely.. I mean that program opens all games give free hand to AI.. True! Think about quantum computer loses H3 or H4.. Because of program, thus Force Field in H3, and combat AI in H4.. No free hands, etc Yeah you hate AI, if the question: which is better H3 or H4.. So Phoenix4ever and many HC friends can't understand AI will play Eagle Eye.. ChatGP is still stupid, thus used the world's database i.e. fanbase.. When wrong program.. No easy, but thinking a game by AI, we need a snow program.. So chess engines play without a database, thus people's games are so bugs, amateurs, mistakes, etc They succeeded chess engines in the first step.. Remember if H8 uses database, you know a very weak AI/engine.. Don't call awesome! 
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LordInsane
Known Hero
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posted November 03, 2024 12:54 AM |
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Wolfnacht said:
So far game looks good, based on their dev blogs and "Heroes Take Turns" youtube channel it's a return to form, bringing back old and good mechanics from both H3 and H5, improving them if such need arises. My only real concern right now is price and the possibility of Ubi forcing any agenda catered towards "modern audiences" in the story, but maybe the Serbs will stand strong.
Considering they retconned the most prominent and arguably most sympathetic faction on the continent to be white, I wouldn't "worry" about that.
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MattII
Legendary Hero
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posted November 03, 2024 08:53 AM |
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Edited by MattII at 08:54, 03 Nov 2024.
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Each game has its followers. OTOH, there's a reason HoMM3 has remained as popular as it has, while other games have somewhat faded into obscurity, and that's because HoMM3 works, while every game that came after had its issues.
* For HoMM4, that was a rushed release, leading to an unbalanced game and flawed mechanics.
* For HOMM5, although it improved on many of HoMM3's mechanics (H5's perks are far more manageable than the branching skill trees of H4, and the power difference with damaging spells is highly welcome), it had much less customisability than any previous game (in HoMM3, Neela was perfectly serviceable hero in any faction, but in HoMM5 putting anything but an Academy creature under an academy hero is a waste).
* HoMM6 we all know about, a stupid attempt to make a TBS game more like an RTS one, and ending up with a mess that turned away many fans.
* HoMM7 was only slightly better than the immediately previous game, not walking back nearly enough of the terrible ideas HoMM6 introduced.
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baronus
Legendary Hero
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posted November 03, 2024 01:04 PM |
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Heroes 3 od the biggest with 2 addons especially. Is completly and finished. H1&2 is completly the same gameplay but poorest content.
Heroes 4 is not the best ofcourse. Only 6 towns, no upgrades, primitive the same heroes - face is only differrece. Tragical AI. Poor city siege etc. H4 lacked a lot of good elements. And other things eg. there is not campaign animation but we see that probably was planned but cutted. Addons are very small. Telling its better than H3 is absurd.
Only you can saw that personally you like it tys best.
I agree that we have a lot of good ideas on H4. Harm that realisation is not so good.
I like both. And H2 too. Im not a H3 fanatic :-)))
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