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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: An important value
Thread: An important value
Ghost
Ghost


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posted November 12, 2024 07:40 PM

Poll Question:
An important value

If you choose attack means Bloodlust, when it increases damage also percent.. Ok talk freely!
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Responses:
Attack
Defense
Health
Damage
Speed
Growth
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Phoenix4ever
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posted November 12, 2024 08:37 PM

I have no idea what you are asking here.

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Ghost
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posted November 13, 2024 08:11 AM

You are right.. It needs an explanation..

First thing I quoted from WoG: "In the Emerald Towers dwell ancient and powerful Wizards who can enchant a whole species of creatures to make them better...for a price. The wizards hate to be bothered, however, and you won't even get an appointment without paying for it with several sparkling gemstones."

Second thing similar WoG value to your important choice, what?

Third thing growth can be Phoenixes, when your most important creature and strategy..

Did you get an insight/idea/realization, Phoenix4ever?
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Phoenix4ever
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posted November 13, 2024 09:56 AM

You are asking what is the most important value?
Probably speed and HP then, although they are all quite important.

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Ghost
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posted November 13, 2024 10:14 AM

Yeah.. Not an easy question and answer, but Sal chooses damage, so me too, but first I always update growth in WoG, or the Grail, dwelling and Statue of Legion in any H3 version.. Why a growth? I get more HP and damage.. I voted growth..
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Salamandre
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posted November 13, 2024 10:17 AM
Edited by Salamandre at 10:20, 13 Nov 2024.

Damage is the best, however growth early is good for low tier creatures. I say early because then you have effective return on investment. Investing in growth month 6, days before ending the game is a waste. Damage is good at any time.

And don't forget that investment in emerald towers is exponential, asking same skill every week increase the boost. You start with +1 damage, then month 6 it will be +40 damage, so its a whole long term strategy, not just pick randomly.

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Phoenix4ever
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posted November 13, 2024 12:57 PM

I guess you are talking about some damage boosting tower, in WoG, that I know nothing about. Oh well.

Damage is nice, but if it is on a speed 3 walking melee unit, it will hardly ever hit anything.

Speed actually has 3 effects, initiative, movement in combat and movement on the adventure map. So perhaps speed is most important.

I guess we could also count walking/flying/ranged units.

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Ghost
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posted November 13, 2024 02:43 PM

I came home.. I visited psychiatry.. Ok

When +1 growth in a town, so town gets lvl 7 of the 4 creatures, thus 50% growth of the town, and then dwellings.. It after damage, so my Pegasi got more than 300 damage, I showed a picture in someone thread here.. I know that damage, thus Dragon Strength gives 100% damage and health, and then Prayer gives +25% health and damage, also Bless, Bloodlust and Giant Strength in H4.. Awesome..

Speed? You must avoid the cruel creature with 500 damage, so not an easy tactics, if immune blind, and using a teleport.. WoG is improving engine, but it also gives fun bonus something, if you enable to some scripts, otherwise only improved games like as a SoD, HotA..

Ok Phoenix4ever uses Archangels, Phoenixes, neutral dragons or speed artifact..
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Phoenix4ever
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posted November 13, 2024 02:51 PM

Speed is king, why do you think Mass Slow and Haste and to a lesser extent Prayer are so OP.

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Ghost
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posted November 13, 2024 03:09 PM

Not bad.. Damage destroys others quickly.. Ok I'm tired.. Later on I look here, if some say something or thing depends on deliberation, its Phoenix4ever and Hourglass
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bloodsucker
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posted November 14, 2024 07:25 AM
Edited by bloodsucker at 07:47, 14 Nov 2024.

Salamandre said:
Damage is the best...
While I agree damage is top, increasing the speed of my Lava Sharpshooters to more then 21 as proven to be a winning strategy against the big stacks of level 8. And they are fearless, so you can be sure you will have the opportunity to cast Forcefield on their turn...

P.S. Of course, I've always misread the fact that AI avoids my Commander as "It won't kill him anyway..." and not as "he is so insignificant I wont waste an attack on him" as you pointed out. If I knew the shooting bug I would have used him instead.
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Salamandre
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posted November 14, 2024 12:24 PM

Sure, speed is primordial, but damage is never boosted by any external parameters, while applied prayer/haste spells + 3 from artifacts + terrain + Mullich go up to +14. Not bad.
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purerogue3
purerogue3


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posted November 14, 2024 04:21 PM

Speed in unappreciated because every other creature is sufficiently fast. Make most creatures unable to catch the fast one, and it gains tactical usefulness, although not as powerful as something like no retaliation.

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